Episode 3: Urgency Without Agency

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Episode 3: Urgency Without Agency

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Nelson

When RFK calls killing vaccine mandates freedom, isn't that just anti-vaxx stupidity from a man too dumb to realize polio don't care about your politics?

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Javier

When Poland starts waving Article 4 like a panic flag and Russia's shadow stretches across the border, is that NATO defense or just Europe speedrunning the Cold War sequel nobody asked for?

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Nelson

When white on white violence happens, it's always a difference of political party. But when it's black on black violence, nobody asks. Is the crip a Democrat defending trans athletes in sports and the blood of a Republican crying about rigged elections? So why does the story change depending on the shade of the shooter?

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Javier

And when folks line up Obama and Trump side by side, is that really a comparison or just America proving it can't tell the difference between hope and the hustle when both come wrapped in a flag? This is the state of the world. We're just here to ask. Is it time to protest or is it time to riot?

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Nelson

Of the freedom of press?

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Nelson

Somewhere I rail. That the greatness of America is the right to protest for a right.

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Speaker 12

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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Nelson

Yes, stand on that. We complain about the 52nd intro. Find a new podcast. Okay, come out once a month. You can do a 52nd intro and it's powerful. It's gonna be here. I am included the proud boys. I don't know what more else you want.

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Nelson

Welcome to the protest. It's arrived podcast episode three. I'm your host Nelson. Join my co-host

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Javier

of year.

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Javier

Okay.

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Javier

Not the white Republican, not the white Republican, the

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Nelson

voice of reason as chat. JBT has called it. Okay. What's that? JBT said you were the voice of reason.

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Javier

I had to let it go. They also said I was black too. Last episode.

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Javier

I like chat.

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Nelson

I liked them. It said I'm an overthinker and a fire starter. I made it make a Tinder bios for me. I'll show you those later. Comedy chat. You know me well too well. Wow. And I was just playing around. I was just showing a friend like how well much activity knows me. Well, episode three of the process. Right. The podcast where we take the news and the politics, look at the facts and tell you whether this is a time to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. Take the news and the politics, look at the facts and tell you whether this is a time to do a, you know, polite protest on your front lawn or show up to the Capitol and storm it. Except if you're black, don't do that. If you're black, but please don't, please, please love a guy. But a lot to talk about. I thought it was going to be a slow month. No, it wasn't. And this last week and a half has just been fucking crazy. Yes, it has. Too many topics for us to even get into some topics. We're only going to talk about some. You'll have to catch on a Patreon. Shout out to our Patreon shout out to our YCC philanthropist. Shout out to our candlelight vigils and our dumpster fires.

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Nelson

If you want to be a patron, just go to patreon.com slash YCC entertainment and join the team. Get that extra extended audio for every episode for as long as one dollar because we're cheap. We're cheap horse. We're cheap. Yeah, you can't find a better deal. Can't find anything in America for a dollar. Shout out to our Cesar Woles podcast always coming out. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you know, you know. Shout out Blurred Watch your fandom of all black nerd comedy entertainment and film and animation. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And shout out to our vibes on break, but they'll be back October 1st. We'll be back October 1st. Show up, show up and show up. As far as shout outs,

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Nelson

that's all we got.

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Nelson

Can we talk about that rumor that was going around that Trump was dead?

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Nelson

I'm just going to go straight into it.

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Javier

My wife is always the, you know, I'll hear that she's my social media for the social media based, right? So if it if it happens there, she hears about it. She relays it to me. I need one of those. Not a wife.

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Nelson

Right. A social media relay.

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Javier

I'm informed.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

They, they thought he was like, oh my God, we haven't heard from him in two days. He must be. I'm like, oh,

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Javier

he's a, he's a Blizzard Roach, right? He's going to be around. He's going to be around. He's not going to be a Blizzard Roach.

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Javier

Don't even freeze. No, the Teflon Don.

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Nelson

Now I get that reference.

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Nelson

No, yeah.

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Javier

They were originally referring to him. They were referring to John Gotti. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess Donald Trump is the new John Gotti. You know, he had the sneakers, right? Like he's trying to Trump. He had the sneakers. He was trying to like be cool with black people. Yeah. You know, yeah. You know, that was just long. Yeah. You can have Teflon Don to it and then see if that has a whole new meeting now. It is.

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Nelson

It is. Yeah. Yeah. They thought he was like, cause he wasn't apparently so lo and behold, what they have revealed to us, okay. Not what actually is the case. What they revealed to us is that he has a, a sickness that causes like, um,

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Nelson

uh, inflamement of the veins.

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Nelson

That's why, you know how they always make those jokes about how like all of his brain juices swelling in his ankles.

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Javier

I was going to be real ignorant to say what cankles.

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Javier

But yeah, yeah.

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Nelson

He, yeah, basically he's like, he's been, he's been sick.

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Speaker 5

Right. Yeah.

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Nelson

And the question has been going around amongst the, uh, the political debaters, cause that's a field that I'm very in tune with. Um, is, is he unfit to, uh, sell?

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Javier

I mean, to, to lead the country, according to the white house doctor, he is the most healthy person ever to have lived. Okay.

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Nelson

Okay. Did you see him walking down the red rope when he met with Putin and he was swerving?

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Javier

Yeah. Listen, because he really wants to be Putin, right? So you know, Putin got the whole, you know, photo with him being on a, uh, a horse without a shirt on or something like that. That's what Trump wants to be. Right. He looked very, he looked very weak.

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Nelson

Yeah. He's been, he's been looking like, um, the, uh, nine 11 Memorial that watching him, it was like, my guy, are you awake?

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Javier

Looks pasty. Yeah. That wig is starting to show through.

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Nelson

I see your tracks.

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Javier

This

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Nelson

is all playful. Banter Trump. You're right.

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Javier

So don't take it personally with the utmost respect.

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Nelson

All right. Now you're glazing. Yeah.

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Nelson

They, they, they really thought he was, he was gone. It was, it was just so much. I'm telling you when we were coming into the sun, it's like, man, it's going to be a slow week. We're going to have to like do a little back burner stuff. Okay. Maybe we can get to some other things that don't have to do with the white house. And then just like the Epstein photo. Yeah. Oh my God. When just watching him sit there and talk week for week, I've never even drawn a picture. And then you see that letter and you're like, bro, that's your signature. I've watched you sign enough executive letters to know that that's your signature.

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Javier

Right. And, and somebody was trying to say like, Oh no, that's his signature from the 90s.

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Nelson

So

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Javier

the forger like got the, he got the time. Wrong signature, you know, wrong signature, but it's, you know what,

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Javier

that's his signature.

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Nelson

Y'all that's his and that looks like something he would draw. I mean, even the book was lopsided.

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Javier

So you all want, you all want to keep digging on this.

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Javier

You all want to keep digging on this, right? It's going to get worse.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

I like, that they, they preemptively said, Hey, we have this letter that Trump said. And then like a month later, they finally released the letter that they had this entire time. And it is funny because it's like, now they're trying to, now they're starting to figure out the game. Yeah. Okay. To keep it relevant, talk about it a little, and then find a way to bring it back up.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

But in the sense of like the relevancy keeps increasing because you talked about, Oh, we have this letter that he sent to, uh, Epstein. And then, you know, we're talking about it. And when it starts to die down and we're not talking about the letter that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein, then you release the letter that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein.

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Javier

You said they start to figure out the game. It sounds like they don't know. They don't have a clue about what they're doing. It's like they're setting themselves up. Right. And, and I don't want to say seeing if they can get away with it, but they're set there. They're their own worst enemy. Wait, who are you talking about? I'm talking about the Trump team.

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Nelson

Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about that. The news, um, uh, uh, the news organizations outside of that, like the ones that originally released that they had the letter and then finally releasing the letter like that. That's what I'm saying. They're trying to figure out the game.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I thought she was talking about Trump's team.

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Nelson

They don't know where they're going.

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Javier

Trump's teamed and figured it out.

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Javier

I think that would have figured out some things.

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Nelson

It's just, yeah, it's not good thing. Yeah, exactly. Also project 25 is up to 70, 47%. Okay. Uh, I think when we did episode two, it was at 42%. Okay. So it's still increasing. All right. Don't call me a conspiracy theorist. Just show, call me a factualist.

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Javier

I just want to see the next step. What's the next? Yeah. Right. Once they get the 51%.

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Nelson

All right. I want to, I need to find out if, um, cause I'm still trying to, uh, play around with the website and, uh, appropriately add, um, to protest the right. I want to know if I can add the tracker to the website. Okay. Cause it's kind of, you know, important for like a lot of the arguments that we make, but I think like, or you know, like the basically the base plate of, um, what project project or project 2025 is going to lead to going to be a lot of conversations that we're going to have. So I want to figure if I can like add it to the website, just for shits and giggles still working on the website. Pretty sure I haven't figured out a name for it. It's probably going to be something like YCC entertainment.com slash, uh, to protest, to riot, something like that. We're working on it though. I've been cleaning up YCC.com. So if you want to see all of our content, just go to YCC entertainment.com.

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Javier

You got a, you got a great intro and then, and then you got the tracker. All right. Yeah.

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Nelson

Come on now. And only three episodes. Okay. Most motherfuckers will die. This is their last episode. Okay.

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Javier

Nothing in this world free. Y'all just, we just giving you gems. Okay. That part. Okay. All right. All right.

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Nelson

Uh, you ready to go to get to this first topic? Yeah, let's do it. Ah, fuck so much. So much content to talk about. All right. So RFK jr. Calls vaccine mandates freedom. Freedom man. It's just any Vax cosplay from a Kennedy who couldn't pass a high school biology. He's out here acting like measles is partisan issue like polio checks your voter ID before it infects your kids. America barely survived COVID and now this man wants to, wants us to raw dog diseases in the name of Liberty protest to riot when freedom becomes a death wish how long before we realize ignorance is contagious to protest for me on this one.

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Javier

So when you, when you say it like that, that last part, when, when, when freedom,

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Javier

when you kind of generalized it as like, I guess the vaccines and, and, and, and how was it, what was that last part?

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Nelson

Well, technically it's when freedom becomes a death wish, how long before we realize ignorance is contagious too. But in the sense of the, the quote is freedom or the air quote is freedom because he's saying, Oh, we don't need all of this. And this is restricts the American freedoms, having vaccine mandates and stuff like that.

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Javier

If there's a general opinion about this,

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Javier

I'm a riot on this one. Right. But if, if, but if it's more specific to what he's doing.

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Nelson

Yeah, it is. Okay. Okay. For the sake of the conversation, it is specific to what RFK and that's just because he's been on the stand lately.

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Javier

Right. Cause you, you, you know where I was going with that. Yeah. I know. You definitely don't want to get to the point where we can't like science doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Like that. And then we've been at that though.

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Speaker 5

Whoa.

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Nelson

With this new administration, we've been at the science is not important anymore. That's why the whole, the, the, a lot of the environmental acts have been cut off.

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Javier

Right. But I think we're at a point where it's just a,

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Javier

most people don't know that the science community even exists anymore. True. I'll give you that. Yeah. Cause you remember you used to hear like, Oh, okay. You know, from the Massachusetts health state of health, something like that, the, no, the journal, the new England journal for medicine or something prestigious, right? Or, or, or, or you hear it from like, Oh, leading scientists says such and such, right? Yeah. You know, you, you could pretty much be like, Oh, okay. That, that's probably true. Right. You know, but now you don't know where they, where are they at? You don't hear them anymore.

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Nelson

Or, well, it's because it's always shut down. Like when you think about like a lot of our political figures that are in power, they're the ones that don't use science to back anything. Yeah. They always start, well, I think, well, this is what I want to talk about. Well, this is what I see as important and stuff like that, as opposed to the facts. Like we did used to rely heavily on the facts. Now people don't care about the facts or anytime it's a fact, it's always questioned. Like nobody believes the facts anymore, right? Which is why we do this podcast. Yeah.

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Nelson

Cause you don't get to argue the facts. You get to argue how you react to the facts.

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Javier

Right. Right.

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Nelson

Right.

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Javier

You can have your opinions on the facts. Yeah. But that's not what we're here.

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Nelson

Right. Right.

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Javier

We're not giving you the space for that. You should get the, you get to listen.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

It's time to listen. We're not arguing about the facts. We're arguing about how we react to the facts. You got two ears now. Two ears.

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Nelson

So, but yeah, this is a protest for me and the vaccine thing. I didn't think this can lead up to like,

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Nelson

I, you got a picture of world with RFK as our, our leader of fucking, what the fuck is he in charge of?

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Javier

The health and human

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Nelson

resources,

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Nelson

HHS, HHS, health and human services.

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Nelson

And you got to think about like, what would happen if we had another pandemic with this guy in charge?

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Javier

Well, they've already, they're pretty much making it harder for you to get a COVID vaccine now. Pretty much. Yeah. And, and you need a doctor's note to get a COVID vaccine. Yeah. Yeah. And which means we're going to start having less of it and on stockpile, right. And y'all remember that there's a new variant this year, like get ready for it, right? There's a new variant. This is,

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Javier

I know people are like, Oh, this is a new flu, but like, it's, this is going to be, this

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Nelson

is something about this, not we, but like, this was a thing that was going on there where everybody was talking about the fact that like COVID is going to be the new influencer. Yeah. So it's just going to keep morphing and changing and stuff like that.

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Javier

And it's just, and you used to have like a pretty competent and fully manned CDC who this is their job to fight this. There are things going on in nature right now that you have no clue about how it's going to affect you. But you know, when you take science and medicine seriously, right? You know, maybe we can last a little bit longer, right? God forbid. God forbid. Right. Sometimes I'm confused. I don't know if y'all just trying to kill us all off or it's just like, Oh, you know, we just, we just waiting to see what the real science is. You know, yeah.

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Nelson

And you know what you say that, and I don't know who the target demographic is that you're trying to kill off anymore.

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Javier

I don't, I really don't know. I really don't know. Cause cause this one right here, this, this anti-vax and, uh, the vaccines calls autism that, that crowd crazy. That was a crazy statement that crowd merges some, some fringe liberals and, uh, or, you know, and, and the conservatives, right? It like merges this, this unholy matrimony together. And it's, it's, it's like now you have a poster child and RFK who's actually sitting here. He has, he's putting a professional face on it. Now this is the, this is the American opinion.

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Nelson

I need you guys.

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Javier

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Boy, don't do that. The door stopper.

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Javier

Somebody said he sounds like a door stopper.

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Javier

I did not need to hear that. I really didn't need, no, I was like, man, I had to turn tick tock off for a second. I was like, a door, no, cause I had to think about it for, I said, Oh my God. Yeah.

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Nelson

I removed all

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Javier

my door house. My door stoppers in the house. I don't want to hear it anymore.

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Nelson

It's starting to WD 40 on all the wedges.

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Javier

Yes. Suddenly you, uh, if you ever, you, you, when you buy a house, they give you like little, uh, door stopper, like backups or whatever. I'm already through all of them already. Just, just cause of RFK. Cause I, I just,

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Nelson

I ain't nothing worse than a door stopper speaking. Did you, did you see that hearing? Yes. That hearing was, and they were on his ass. He, he was frantic. He couldn't, he couldn't hold his composure because they were attacking him was like, well, you said this and you said that. And you like, we're kind of like the most of the hearing I got or most of what I got out of hearing was where are you getting this information from?

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Javier

The distinguished and qualified Senator from, uh, Washington state of Washington, Maria Cantwell called him a charlatan. I love that word. Do you know how often I use that word? Like that is, that is a word I use constantly, especially in this day and age, right? The president is a charlatan, right? But she called him a charlatan and I was instantly mad cause I was like, man, you still in my word, what are you doing?

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Nelson

I had to get bitch.

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Nelson

I was like, when the maxi, the ones that slip out,

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Javier

I didn't mean to call you. I'm sorry. That was flip. You're going to pay me some royalties. But yeah, call them. Yeah, there was on his ass. Call them a charlatan. And then the Republican members on the panel was like, Hey, you said you wouldn't do this, right? What you did this Bill Cassidy, Senator from Louisiana is, uh, it was a physician before he was a U S Senator asked him and, and during the confirmation hearings, right? And RFK said he would not, um, uh, limit the access to the COVID vaccine. He said that, yeah,

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Javier

here he is doing it. And he's finally getting called down on it. Uh,

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Javier

by his, by the other side, by the Republican party. And I know that at some point they're going to have to start thinking to themselves, like, okay, uh, when lives start getting lost, especially these lives in my, that are my constituents in my state, uh, how long are we going to be able to keep up supporting this administration, uh, and good conscious?

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Nelson

Well, it depends. Like, like the, uh, the fact that Florida, um, got rid of all of their vaccine mandates and kids, or I think, I think, um, R K got rid of 50, 500 million. Yeah. It was $500 million pulled from vaccine R and D. Yeah. It's like, wait, I'm sorry. What? Yeah. We're in the time where vaccine R and D needs to be the most prevalent thing, especially when you're talking about like the department of war. Yeah. Like we live in that kind of time. Yeah. See what I did there. Um, we live in that time where like, uh, chemical warfare is still very much a thing. Yeah. It's not just like, I know we like to think that it's only going to be ever technological, but not we, we run the risk of running into a chemical warfare again. Why would you cut so much from vaccine

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Javier

R and D, uh, biological warfare? Um, and you know what? I think the way that they're operating, operating, it seems like they're playing a game, right? Uh, and not a sophisticated game at all. They think this is a game. Um, but like I alluded to before, it is the job of the CDC to fight these, uh, maturing diseases, and bacteria in nature as it's happening,

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Javier

as it's happening, right? Uh,

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Javier

I'm not going to lie. I didn't put too much emphasis before and like, um, us like going to get a flu shot. I didn't need to go to get a flu shot every year, but there's my privilege, right? I didn't need to go get a flu shot every year because majority of the population already had the, uh, they had the flu shot for that year. That's it for that variant, right? And that's what kind of what you're living in, right? Because these, uh, disease, these, these, these are like measles for, for, for example, right? That can easily come back. That can easily come back. The reason that you haven't heard so much of it in maybe like the last 20 years, I know it's, it's coming back up now, but it's because it was already fought at the school, the primary school,

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Nelson

elementary school measures in place to prevent a measles outbreak. And that kind of leads to my issue with this entire thing. It's still a protest for me, but my issue with this and why it has the potential to become a riot is what's next. I get it. You guys hated the COVID vaccines. Cool. Like it was still a worldwide pandemic. It shut down the world, but you guys had an issue with it because the vaccines came out too fast. Cool. Whatever. All right. But then what's next? We start getting rid of the polio vaccines. So we start getting rid of these, uh, measles vaccines. We start getting rid of influenza vaccines. Then like what, like what, what preventable disease is the end of mankind in a sense. I hate to go like that far in extreme, but like, that's kind of like where we're going. It's like, okay, you keep trying to cut off all these vaccines. At what point do we say, all right, bro, enough is enough.

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Javier

Like, I bet you they won't take those STD vaccines.

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Nelson

I don't know about that. They'll probably take the AIDS ones off because they think that's only a black and gay disease. Sure.

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Javier

So it might take that one. Oh,

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Nelson

it's only coming off the blacks and the gays.

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Javier

We, this is perfect for like the, the maggots, the rest of them for sure.

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Nelson

You don't keep for sure.

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Javier

But those ones, yeah. I forbid kill the blacks and the gays. Jesus. Yeah. No, it's, it's a protest for me as well. Um,

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Javier

yeah, again, uh, cause I alluded to this in the last podcast. It's just, um,

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Javier

there's certain steps that I need to see. Right. And also I want to see the results of some of these actions, right? No, I don't want to see people start to peel over and die. Cause I know I don't want to see that, but what I do want you all to see is, Hey,

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Javier

this is what I voted for. Right. And in order to get to where I ultimately want to be, right. There's going to be some hard sacrifices, maybe even me and my family. Right. And obviously I disagree with you. I disagree with your choice of vote. Right. But if this is what you voted for, right, then you need to go ahead and see how it's playing out in real time. Right. Because yeah, your, your, your, your, the statistics are going to start looking crazy and getting fudged. Right. But again, like we said in the last podcast, you are going to see and reap the repercussions and the consequences of this man's buffoonery. Uh, I don't, I just really don't understand how you can not take medicine funny or, or to, to, to take it serious. Sorry. I really don't understand how you can, because you will see the results.

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Javier

And again, there are things,

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Javier

mutating and evolving in the wild as we speak. And we, for the first time in a long time, might not be prepared for it.

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Nelson

When you're talking to a,

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Nelson

not talking to your argument against a base that doesn't really believe in evolution.

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Nelson

That's why they want to go back.

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Nelson

There it is.

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Nelson

Real shit though. You're talking to a base that wants to go back to a time that they still haven't actually given me the year or two.

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Javier

It just wants to go back. Nelson reminds me of like, why do I have hope for y'all?

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Javier

That's my role. He reminds me, I just want to let you know that I always reserve a smidge of hope in there somewhere. Right. I always do. That's why he's the voice of reason. I'm just a fire starter. Boy, do I get humbled sometimes. But

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Nelson

like literally that's, that's the problem we're talking to a base. We want the base to understand that a like, yeah, we get it. It was like this back in the past and it's not like that anymore, but you need to understand why it's not like that anymore. It's not because the stroke of God that COVID hasn't killed everybody. No, it's because of vaccines, controlled restrictions and stuff like that. That's why we were able to get past that. Same for every fucking thing else in the world.

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Nelson

Chicken pox, measles, polio, like all of these are things that like we have figured out. We have evolved to get past these. But again, you're arguing to the base that doesn't really believe in evolution. Yeah.

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Javier

You forward progress. You think that what the age of is 80 something or 70 something to 80 something for men or like, do you know what the average age for death used to be? You know, the 20s. Think about that. Late 20s, early 30s. Like think before medicine and like, I don't know, soap, you know,

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Nelson

just, just think about it. They're talking to a base that probably doesn't wash their hands after they shit.

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Nelson

Because you're not

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Javier

talking to the niggas that like wash their hands. Again, I just have that smidge of hope in there for you.

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Nelson

And better than me.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

He is better than me. Because I ain't got nothing or crazier, depending on how you look at it.

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Nelson

Take your poison. Right. Right. Yeah. So yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. So it's a process from both of us.

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Javier

I'm gonna do a protest on this one.

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Nelson

Yeah. But RK, this step down, bro. When the family starts coming up to you and saying, Hey, you're doing too much. And the fact that his family has been coming out and saying, he's doing too

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Javier

much. What kind of you trying to carve your name and the Kennedy family legacy. And I have absolutely no what kind of lane you try to pull right with this one. But you're not going to be looked at on the top tier side of the Kennedy family. Agree. Whatever that looks like. Right. So.

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Nelson

And it's not because you talk like piss.

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Javier

Definitely not because of that. Definitely not because of that. We don't care about the sound of your voice. We care about what comes out your mouth. If you was on the right side of history, that could have been your superpower. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

You would have stood out. Yeah. You just got to say the right shit. Yeah.

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Javier

And the words of you that came out of your mouth, keep it short. Because you don't like to hear your own voice.

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Nelson

Hey, from based off what they've been saying, you know, the solution him in a pH, they're saying the solution is just exercise. Okay. That's all we just need to do more exercise to let us all have everything to.

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Nelson

I'm here for it. We can go get it to this, this is this whole thing.

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Nelson

Get old Poland.

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Nelson

Are you going to do it?

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

So.

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Javier

Poland invoked Article Four. Basically, NATO's way of saying,

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Javier

yo, family meeting. Russia is wiling again.

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Javier

But here's the thing.

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Javier

Article Four isn't defense. It's a discussion.

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Javier

It's the alliance huddling up before the fight breaks out. Problem is, every huddle looks like every huddle looks weaker.

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Javier

When the bears already at the door,

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Javier

NATO keeps promising strength, but hesitation looks a whole lot like fear.

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Javier

Protests are right.

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Nelson

You're going to finish the last line, clown.

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Nelson

I was like, yo,

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Javier

no, no, no, you're right. You're right. You're right.

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Javier

When allies keep talking, instead of acting, how long before deterrence becomes surrender? That was the full thing. Yeah.

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Javier

We got to do it, boys.

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Javier

I saw a line and I was like, end.

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Nelson

Team, we're only in episode three. We're allowed to make mistakes.

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Nelson

Cause your other podcasts make this the last episode. All right. This one, this one gets a protest for me.

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Nelson

It's yeah, my riots are safe for later. I do have some rights for later.

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Nelson

This one gets a protest because like, but

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Nelson

it's another one of those leads to a riot. And that's because the thing about this one was the reason why Poland enacted the article four was because the Russian drones were flying into the territory. Right. And they were already doing that before, but this time they finally shot them down.

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Javier

And if I'm not mistaken, it's only been invoked like seven times or something like that since in history. Yeah. Right. And y'all know what the last one was, right? That's when Russia invaded Ukraine. That's the last time.

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Nelson

And for those of you who don't know what article four is, article four is when, um, NATO spacey, they sit down and has a meeting about security issues that affect the countries that are aligned with NATO. So that's why Poland enacted it because basically Russia was flying into their territory and Russia is like, Hey, y'all, we need to figure out what we're going to do about this. Yeah. So, um,

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Nelson

Russia needs to stop. I know Tossi Gabbard might disagree, but, um, she's the number one Russian propaganda machine, but, um, the Russian needs to stop. And I think these conversations, I think this will should have been enacted. Um, well, it was already enacted with Ukraine, but it, it, it's, yeah, the conversation got to kind of stop and it's got to turn into some action. Like y'all need to band together. Basically what's going on with what I see from NATO in Russia is NATO is basically just banding together to ally, um, Ukraine by sending them equipment. Yeah. As opposed to actually taking action. I'm not saying it's, you know, um, uh, 20 V one against Russia. But it

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Javier

could be any other solution to this. It was right. Right.

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Javier

But, um, shout out to world war two.

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Javier

Shut up. Is that a shout out?

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Javier

Shout out the sanctions, right? They're not a silver bullet by any means, right? But what they were doing was, uh, isolating the Russian oligarchs, uh, because that's how they run out there. And by doing that, right, you can start putting some pressure on Putin to start acting in a different way. Right. Um, the issue is, is that, uh, Obama raised the sanctions on, on, uh, on Russia. Uh, Trump actually pulled some back and then Biden came in and then strength thing the toughest sanctions ever placed on Russia. So I think we, we see a clear pattern here, um, that Russia wasn't really in a position to, uh, I guess to make some of the moves that they were making, right? They were struggling in the war with Ukraine when we all thought that would end in a week. We all thought that would end in a week. I thought it would end in 24 hours. You mean like when Trump was supposed to end the war on day one, right? Yeah. Yeah. But surprise, right? They've held it together this long, right? But because of who's in office right now, again, right? We said this the last time, the, the, the question now is, can you hold out for three and a half years?

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Javier

Wait, who, uh, Ukraine, but sorry, Poland's next. Poland's next. And all of the former us are, um, territories are next, right? And, you know, they flew their little drone over there and, you know,

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Javier

all of them was like, nah, you, you don't get to do that. So if we don't think that this is going to, there's going to be an escalation in Russian aggression, we're all being naive. All of us.

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Javier

Um,

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Javier

I don't know. I just feel as though, uh,

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Javier

we're not taking Russia serious. No, we're not a hundred percent. We're absolutely not taking them serious.

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Nelson

And I think, I think what, and how do I say this while being super being super pro military while still being super pro, um, savior esque to the American people. Yes, we are not taking Russia seriously, but that's because the only thing that comes from taking them seriously is an all out war. Like it's very hard to restrict what Russia is as America without basically enacting a war. I'm a firm believer in that.

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Javier

I also believe, I guess, given a little bit of context that

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Javier

Putin is the central figure, but once he's gone,

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Javier

whatever vacuum fills that space won't be as potent, uh, or as, or as controlling of that government as he was.

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Nelson

I actually disagree with that. I think the next will be just as, I think, I don't think it'll be worse, but I think it'll be just as bad just because there's, there's no shot. Somebody becomes in charge of Russia and then can't sit there and say, okay, I see what Russia can get away with.

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Javier

Right. But once he's gone, everybody's going to be jocking for position. Right. And I'm not a, I'm not a Russian, uh, political science, but what scientists, but what I will say is that, uh, just like in most cases, uh, when your movement and the entire power structure is centered around a central figure, it's very difficult to grab on, uh, to that power that that person had. Um, when, when that person is gone and you have to now, uh, draw together all of the coalitions that made up that person's, uh, that person's base or that, or that person's support.

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Javier

I don't know. It's, it's, it's going to be tough.

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Nelson

I, I, I get, I'm, and I am disagreeing with you, but I'm not disagreeing with you in a way that it might seem it's, I just don't, I can't see somebody else being able to be like, Oh, I'm going to be the next person in charge of Russia. And we're going to run this completely different. And we're going to take a backhand to a lot of like land conquering and trying to flex our power and stuff like, and telling the rest of the world. I like, I don't see somebody else coming into that role. But again, like yourself, I'm not a Russian political scientist. So maybe there are people, you know, maybe there are rumblings in the world and stuff like that. But let's kind of be realistic about this. Russia is the, the number two in the world.

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Nelson

Far as like power.

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Javier

Sure. You're talking about nuclear weapons.

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Nelson

I'm talking about in general, like actual power.

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Nelson

Who else would be number two?

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Javier

China.

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Nelson

Same thing.

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Nelson

Oh, all right. But I don't, I don't, I think China depends on too much from other people

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Nelson

where that's why they're not the number as far as like, like global power.

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Javier

No, they definitely the globe. Yeah.

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Javier

Let me check, uh, attack check.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

Where are my clothes from?

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Nelson

All right.

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Javier

Let me take apart this iPhone really fast.

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Nelson

So for Russia to maintain its number three.

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Nelson

For Russia to maintain its number three. Yeah. Yeah. They would have to like, I don't, I don't see them like basically giving up that role. Yeah. Like, I mean, I don't see America or China doing the same either.

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Javier

Well, um, here's the thing with this, this, this war that they're fighting, right?

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Javier

Um, I don't know if you know, they actually up the pay of their soldiers.

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Javier

They up the pay to like, I think it's almost, it might come out to like $60,000 US, right?

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Javier

Um,

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Javier

but think about what they're doing, right? And if this can truly last, like

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Javier

basically what they're doing, right? Is saying, Hey,

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Javier

I'm going to take some of the pressure and the responsibility off of us trying to justify this war, right? We're going to pay you more money, right? For war that you don't want to fight, right? Because they, they, um, I'm sorry, they implemented the draft. That's what I'm talking about this. Uh, they had, uh, Russia implemented their draft, right? So basically they're turning their military force into mercenaries pretty much. Right. And, and you know that that's a slippery slope to become in a sociopath. We're turning our military into police officers. Sure. Sure.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

In reverse, right? You know, cause we want to be like not we

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Javier

they want to be like, they want to be like Russia, but where's the patriotism in that, right? It's because it doesn't change the fact that you still don't want to fight this war. Right. And I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't alive during this time, but you know, I know the Vietnam War, you know, when they implemented the draft, I know that that was a war we didn't want to fight. Right. Right. And what type of fighting force does that really create?

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Javier

It's going to be a bunch of folks trying to start up some, uh, some defense contract companies.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

Black, black water. You know what I'm saying? This is what you're creating. Right. And I'm not trying to like help them or anything like that. I'm just saying that, uh,

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Javier

as soon as you start thinking that somebody has it together in the world, like somebody else is like, Oh, they're winning right now. Right. No, they're, they're, they're involved in the chaos, just like we all are. Yeah. Right. And I don't necessarily think that anybody in the world is making good moves right now.

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Nelson

Agree.

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Nelson

And I think again, when the front runner of the world is making the worst mistakes, what else do you expect the rest of the world to do? And the bar is, the bar is different now. The standard is different now. And I don't know what the goal is other than to get back to a undetermined or unsaid time. That's kind of the issue with it is like, yeah, we keep saying we want to go back to, we want to go back to basically the world war two era without having Russia as our enemy.

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Javier

As our ally or just a country that we can go by vacation property.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Javier

Okay.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

So I don't know what the end goal for all of this is. From our side. So then it kind of makes it harder to determine what the end goal is for the rest of the world. Because again, America is the front runner of the world stage.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

So even though we don't want to be anymore, because we, what did you say last time? They want the title, but not the responsibilities.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

Just a bad supervisor. Yeah. So, but this, for right now where it is right now is it's a riot. I mean, it's a protest for me. But obviously we'll be keeping our ears glued to it because it's just, it's always something with Russia.

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Javier

Yeah. There's, there's like a smaller percentage of energy that I'm putting towards this one. Because it's like we're going in circles. Right.

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Nelson

America, Russia, stop Russia says, fuck y'all starts again. Or we tell Russia, stop Russia says, fuck y'all.

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Javier

I was thinking more of the lines that we are like, we trying to be like them. They're trying to be like us. Right. It's this, this circle, right? This, this, this circle when I thought we were trying to be more like Korea. I listened to some of the things I've heard and you know, we've talked about project 2025. It's sound like Trumpy like Germany

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Nelson

back in the day. All your Elon fans ready your salute.

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Javier

That's what it sounds like. But ready your fucking salute. But I do think that my final point is

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Javier

if you pay attention to history and you, we've been able to travel and go to different places in the world, America is not the world. Y'all. Yeah. It's not your head out of your ass. It's not, but we, we are in a really fortunate place or we're in, we're in history to be able to shape the direction of the world. And what we're doing right now is leading with chaos. Right. And the rest of the world who relied on a steady hand is seeing that and we are no longer trustworthy.

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Javier

I know we're talking about Poland and Russia, but Qatar.

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Javier

Again, Qatar, Doha. And for those who don't know, Doha, which is the capital of Qatar, is the Switzerland of the Middle East. Yep. It's where we go to make all our deals and to broker peace. We have a military base out there that we leased from them. Yep. Right.

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Javier

So also for those who don't know, we are their protection pretty much.

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Nelson

Yep.

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Javier

Right.

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Nelson

Well, us and Hamas. Yeah.

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Nelson

Had to throw that one.

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Javier

And you go over there and you, what they, what did they do? They bombed the Hamas building or

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Nelson

they started bombing residents because they were trying to bomb the, the, the political figures that were there.

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Javier

Right. And because that the Hamas, their headquarters is there in that neighborhood. Right. But Qatar is a sovereign country. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Yeah. I had to do a double take.

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Nelson

Remember, this is the second time though. They just bombed Qatar, what, three weeks ago? Yeah.

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Javier

They fucking bomb them. So it was the base that time.

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Nelson

It was aimed at the base. I'll you, I'll you did. Yeah.

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Nelson

I'm concerned. So yeah. Like they

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Nelson

shot the Israel for being able to get away with whatever the fuck they want.

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Javier

I'm just saying, it's been countless presidents. We're probably going to get cancelled for that one. That I've had to deal with Netanyahu.

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Javier

And the one who is the most inconsistent in character, I will say, right, is the one he's trying to take advantage of and do all the things that they already wanted to do. And I know, and I'm, I'll be fair to orange man that that this war, this, this escalation between, between Israel and Palestine didn't start in his administration. Right. But my God is it going to hell in a handbastic at a faster rate during his, his tenure. Well, good thing it hasn't been 24 hours yet. Yeah. Long, the longest 24 hours of my life. I'm 24 hours is bad. Wait, four years. You know, you know, if that, you know, if that was actually true, that would be my own personal health that I actually wake up and he, the war is solved and it's, it's only just 24 hours into his administration. It was four years. It took him four years to do it. Yeah.

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Nelson

And it's not no shot. Any of this is going to be done in four years.

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Javier

No, no, no, no, none of it. Not at the pigs.

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Nelson

He's moving out of the way he's moving is,

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Javier

you know, it's going to be hard for the next person who's probably going to be a thousand times more competent than he is. Right. It's going to be hard for them to broker peace. It's a reason why it has a bit, if there's a next person, that part, but again, pay attention to the, the rest of the world, pay attention to what's going on in the world and just keep an eye out, right? Keep an eye out on the chaos and keep an eye out on the, the actors on the world stage who feel like this might be an opportunity, right? To go ahead and start making the move they really wanted to make now that they feel America is weaker.

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Nelson

I agree. Cause, and that's, it's kind of like the backlash that we're dealing with. Wait, well, I'm sorry for this situation. What was your, your, your,

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Javier

I'm, I'm protesting this. Yeah.

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Nelson

That's the back end of everything that we're kind of dealing with is, uh, we're, we're just giving too much opportunity to too many other countries to kind of just roll in and take advantage of both the circumstances and America itself. Like this is really bad. We are right. Jesus. Um, right now we are at a point where we are the worst leaders of the free world. Yeah. So yeah, I stand on that. Like keep your eye. I agree with him. Uh, keep your own eyes open. I mean, we'll, we'll come in and we'll cover it and everything like that. Um, obviously there's certain things that we can't say like, you know, Israel can do whatever they want.

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Javier

We didn't get the France. We didn't even get the France.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

There's some things we can't really come in here and say, because you know, it's cancer culture high right now, especially after the assassination. Uh, but, um, so everything's being monitored per se. Um, you said assassination. Yeah. Okay. I see what you did there. Um, we'll talk about that after the patient.

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Nelson

They're not getting it for free. You have to fire. You have to pay me and then fire me.

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Nelson

Bring it on. You're going to have to pay me and then fire me. Okay.

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Javier

Um, peace off the bottle.

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Nelson

Oh, shout out the department award. Um, he is off the bottle. Uh, yeah, we can roll into, wait, did you get any other topics you wanted to just dabble in before you do your monologue and send these, um, not NDA signers on the way. I think that was it. That yeah. Um, however, you're going to hit your, which is monologue and we're going to see you, uh, not NDA signers on the way. But once we roll into the Patreon, we will definitely be talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination attempt. Uh, sorry, Charlie Kirk assassination, not attempt.

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Nelson

Um, and, uh, however you want us to get into a huge bag about, um, Obama versus Trump or comparing them.

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Javier

Yeah. I got, I got, yeah.

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Javier

Yes.

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Nelson

Crazy. I ain't going to have fun. Just ad living the entire time. Sorry.

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Javier

Sorry. Obama. Like, uh, it's trust me. I, I've held you up in the highest regard.

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Javier

Absolutely. But, but Trump, there's a, there's something there. We'll, we'll talk about it though. There's something there.

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Nelson

You can vote your monologue whenever you're ready. All right.

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Javier

When Barack Obama left office, Democrats had the map. They had the coalition, young people, black voters, suburban moderates, college educated whites, a coalition so sturdy, so seemingly unbreakable that it should have carried Hillary Clinton across the finish line,

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Javier

but it didn't.

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Javier

The tent frayed, the seams gave away.

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Javier

Hillary couldn't hold it together. And in that unraveling, you can feel it. Urgency without agency,

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Javier

the urgency to hold on to progress without the agency to keep the coalition intact. And yet the craving for Obama's steadiness never went away. The memory of competence, of charisma,

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Javier

of actual statesmanship, it lingered.

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Javier

So much so that in 2020 Democrats handed Joe Biden the largest primary vote total and democratic primary history,

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Javier

not because he was dazzling, not because he was revolutionary,

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Javier

but because he was familiar,

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Javier

a vessel of nostalgia, a custodian of Obama's legacy.

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Javier

And that's the thing about nostalgia.

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Javier

It's urgency without agency,

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Javier

a longing for what once was, with no clear power to replicate it. Now, Donald Trump is no Barack Obama.

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Javier

Obama had elegance, intelligence, wit, wit, the whole statesman package.

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Javier

Trump, he's the knockoff, he's the bootleg Jordans at the strip mall, the forgotten Baldwin brother who never gets the close up.

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Javier

And yet here's the grotesque irony.

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Javier

Trump holds a similar gravitational pull over Republicans.

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Javier

He is their indispensable man.

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Javier

The sun, their entire galaxy revolves around.

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Javier

And in his crude, two bit reality television way, he has expanded the Republican coalition.

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Javier

He's pulled in blue collar workers, union households, suburban whites, marinated in grievance.

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Javier

Republicans wanted Obama of their own.

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Javier

What they got was a carnival Barker, a repugnant salesman of resentment.

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Javier

But,

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Javier

and here's the terrifying part. They poured their hearts into him anyway.

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Javier

They built their hopes, their movement, their future on a man who can't even spell future.

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Javier

That's why Project 2025, this dystopian playbook for remaking America into something out of the handmaidens tale depends entirely on Trump.

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Javier

Or at least a successor who can mimic his grotesque talent for uniting evangelicals,

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Javier

plutocrats, and the perpetually aggrieved under one circus tent.

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Javier

And here again,

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Javier

urgency without agency, the urgency, the urgency to seize the country, the country's direction, paired with the other lack of agency to imagine it without Trump.

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Javier

Democrats tied their fate to Obama.

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Javier

And Republicans have done the same with Trump. The difference?

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Javier

Obama left behind dignity, hope, a belief in what's possible. Trump leaves behind a cult of grievance, a hollow promise,

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Javier

and the unsettling truth that a movement built around one man cannot survive without him. And listen,

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Javier

if you think JD, Sleepy Vance is the answer, reapply your eyeliner.

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Javier

If you think Ron DeSantis is the answer, welcome to the Tri-Hear Club, where every day is an audition and Ron still can't stick the landing.

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Javier

And please don't tell me you believe Greg Abbott is the answer, because I've got some shoe polish ready, you're gonna do a lot of boot licking when I'm done.

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Javier

The point is,

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Javier

this unholy matrimony wasn't well thought out, but the lasting effects will be more permanent than you can ever imagine.

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Javier

The incremental progress African Americans and other minorities have fought tooth and nail to achieve, it won't be incremental anymore.

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Javier

Because now that we're all in the mud, the high road is gone,

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Javier

destroyed,

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Javier

and it has to be rebuilt.

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Javier

And that is urgency without agency in its purest form.

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Javier

The urgency to act is undeniable. The agency to do so feels elusive. But history tells us this, out of moments and collapse and chaos comes direction, out of despair comes reinvention.

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Javier

America will come out on top.

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Javier

But what she looks like on the other side,

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Javier

whether broken and diminished,

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Javier

or renewed and resilient, depends on whether we treat this urgency as a warm or as an excuse to keep living without agency.

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Javier

That's my two.

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Javier

Thank you.

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Nelson

The part where we say peace to you. Peace free, niggas.

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Nelson

What's up, patrons? Shout out our patreon shout out the ycc philanthropist, our candlelight, candlelight vigils and our dumpster fires.

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Nelson

We appreciate everything you do for the company and we appreciate you. I don't know where to start with this. Yeah, that just gonna go ahead and read it. Charlie Kirk almost, Charlie Kirk gets shot and suddenly it's a political dispute.

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Nelson

And that's what they call it when it's white on white violence. But if it's black on black, then it's gang culture, fatherless homes, and a whole CNN documentary about urban decay. White shooters get nuance, black shooters get mug shots. The story changes depending on who's holding a gun.

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Nelson

Protest the riot. When the media rewrites the rules by race, how do we make them tell the truth out loud?

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Nelson

This entire Charlie Kirk situation.

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Nelson

Let me start by saying this.

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Nelson

Batman did not deserve to die for his view.

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Nelson

I do not agree that we should go around shooting people like that. I will stand on that. I'm sure Javier agrees. Absolutely agree.

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Nelson

To cover our asses. I will open with that.

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Speaker 5

And it's in the beginning.

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Javier

So gotta start from the beginning. You know, you don't have to go to an hour and 45 minutes into it. And be like, Oh, that's what they said that we all been with saying that that man did not deserve to die. Okay. And it's not just covering our asses. We believe that absolutely.

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Nelson

I'm saying that because I could have just rolled into what I felt without including that part. Right. But no, imagine not have to die for that. We should not be going around shooting people because of political differences and everything like that.

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Nelson

So now that I got that out of the way.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

And just free speech and all of that. Right. Even if it's completely antithetical to what I believe and it demeans and berates and tries to destroy people who look like me. Right.

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Javier

America. Yeah.

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Nelson

America. We should not celebrate the death of an American citizen. Full stop. Full fucking stop. We as Americans, I don't care if you're military. I don't care if you're a fucking a legal immigrant. You should not be celebrating the death of American. Full fucking stop. Yeah. Got that out. Now with that being said, wasn't really a fan of Charlie Kirk. Wasn't a fan of a lot of his rhetoric. Not at all. I will say this. There's one thing I did like about Charlie Kirk. And I like the fact that he argued with the next generation. He was 30, 31 himself.

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Nelson

Younger than us.

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Nelson

But I think with what he with his platform, I mean, he was considerably the largest right leaning activist out there. Yeah. And he spent most of his time arguing with college kids, basically our next generation of up and coming voters. Basically, I do like that. I like when people get in the weeds and argue against the people that, you know, disagree with them in public spaces, as opposed to minimizing your platforms to only the people that agree with you. Right. So I did like that. Charlie Kirk did that. I just disagree with a lot of his rhetoric.

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Javier

Yeah. But I was just gonna say, there was also this sense that he,

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Javier

you know, it wasn't both sides sending their best to argue. Right. It was Charlie Kirk and like an up and coming. I didn't like the format, but like I get, I kind of get it. Like with an up and coming student going through college to be like, hey, like, you know,

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Javier

there's no way I shouldn't have not won on the argument. Right. But here I am in college, I'm younger than him. I'm already right on the topic. I just got to argue with better. Right. Let's, let's go back to the drawing board. Yeah. Right. And if you, if you took it, took it in that sense, right. As somebody who loves debate. Right. Okay. Right. Debate debaters. Yeah. Debate debaters. Right. But, you know, there's also this other side that is more, the more realistic side is that he believed everything he said. He believed everything he said.

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Javier

And my God, do we disagree? Yep.

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Javier

We wholeheartedly disagree on a lot. You.

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Nelson

Ooh. You said some crazy things.

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Javier

Oh, my people, your people, because we're all Americans. Yep. Right.

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Javier

You really think that we are in positions that we're not qualified to be for.

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Nelson

Can we hold on before we even get into that, can we address the, the Charlotte stabbing

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Nelson

the girl that got stabbed on the subway?

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Nelson

Oh, you haven't seen that? No, no, no, no. Black guys stabbed white girl. She was, she was actually a refugee. Okay. In America.

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Javier

And did you see area?

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Nelson

No, this was in North Carolina. Oh, okay.

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Nelson

There was a stabbing going on and they made a,

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Nelson

again, that is not cool. That is unacceptable. So stabbing fat. This guy was arrested 14 times prior to this stabbing. Yeah. So he already had a history shouldn't have been on the streets. Well, we can agree to that. Yeah. Charlie Kirk stance on that was why aren't we making a big deal out of this? This woman just got on a bus and got stabbed by this guy. And the guy's response was, yeah, I got that white girl. Yeah, I got her.

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Nelson

But then Charlie Kirk's argument is, but we blew up George Floyd.

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Nelson

When a white, when a black guy stabs a white girl, nobody says anything. But when a black guy, his words, when a black guy dies from a, a, a feta me overdose, then all it's all racist.

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Nelson

I think he missed the point. The issue, it doesn't even have to fucking do with color.

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Nelson

It's not the, the, the George Floyd being black and the police officer being white was a caveat to the fact that the police officer put his fucking knee on a already handcuffed to man's neck for nine minutes. That was the issue with that. So the fact that you sit there and roll those into the same fucking comparison as a citizen or a regular American citizen stabbing another American regular, another regular American citizen and he quivolate that to a police officer committing police brutality on a already handcuffed man is asinine to me. And the fact that you felt like we need to blow that up more than the George Floyd situation is fucking crazy.

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Nelson

George Floyd died and you still died to suffocation and you're still trying to say no was a fetomy overdose.

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Nelson

What the fuck are we talking about? He did that a lot though.

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Javier

And that's what I'm saying. He conflated the stories and the facts, right? Used hyperbole and the stats that stood out the most to him, right? And then when you actually break it down, like the whole black on black thing that he tried to say, like we kill each other more than like, bro, come on now. Yeah. Come on now.

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Nelson

Or like the fact that like even the segue in the conversation right before the shooting, the when they asked him, because this is literally the sequence of events, they asked him, do you know how many transgenders have committed mass murders in the last year? And his response was picked up the mic and said too many and put down the mic.

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Nelson

And they said, well, actually it was five. Do you know how many mass murders have been committed by other parties in the last year? And we all know the answer to that. Like, because you know where that's going. You already know where a conversation like that's going. We're about to blame for that. So his response is to, you know, lighten the load. Does that include gang violence?

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Nelson

What you're trying to do is throw more brown people in that equation.

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Javier

His strategy works.

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Nelson

Oh, it's a debate tactic. Yes. I'm not a debater. Right. Debate a debater. I can see through that shit.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

And to debate somebody who just knows the issue. Yes. Right. Who just has a, you know, you could have a baseline view of the issue or understanding of the issue and know that he was taking facts and different statistics and twisting it to be inflammatory. Yep. But that's his style. Yeah. I think it it it galvanized a certain group of white male men who who believe that they there's a they have a grievance in this country. Right. And entitlement. And it's not the first time it's this tactic has been used on you all white males to be specific. Right. Because basically what what he's being Charlie Kirk was being used to do was to basically say hey because they did it they did it in the past. Hey, you might not be doing great in your life. Don't worry about the privilege. Right. You got you got the privilege and name only in certain cases. Right. But at least you're not black.

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Javier

This tactic has been used. And and I also want to shout out the times that that that that what African Americans statement African Americans and poor whites have gotten together to try to organize for things right. The few times that has happened but they have happened right. They don't want that. They don't want that right.

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Javier

Those who want to keep you ignorant and hating on someone who has even less than you have. Right.

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Javier

That tactic keeps you where you need where they need you to be. Yep. Right. That this whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps and an America talker see thing. It's really not set up for everybody. No, it's not. It's the system is not set up for everybody to take a piece. But here we are. Right. We will have a voice like Charlie Kirk. Right. Who ends up being the microphone for this way of thinking. Correct. Because he is I without giving him too much credit. I would have to assume that he's way smarter than the things that have come out of his mouth. Agreed. Because those who know those who have been to college and studied some of these issues. Right. And the end of silence.

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Javier

Right. You know that you were taught a lot of the times not not I'm not going to sound like them. Most of the time you were taught a pretty decent segment of history. Right. And if you know you know in college you go more into depth of certain topics in in history. Right. Subtopics.

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Javier

The fact that you actually tried to convince us that you really.

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Javier

Look you really don't understand that the issues that you were talking about were not black and white. Yeah. And that you have in the conversation in one manner hurts an entire community.

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Javier

Right. It paints a pitch an inaccurate picture of a community who has done nothing but tried to pull themselves up. Not try pull themselves

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Nelson

up by their head straps successfully pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Absolutely.

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Javier

And like no I'm just gonna say that that for me again I don't condone anybody being killed but God is this like the story of the year now. Yes.

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Nelson

And let's we can sit here. There's so many avenues to hit and we we're probably gonna hit all of them on this episode

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Nelson

with this whole Charlie Kirk situation. This is the same guy that I got to find that quote because the quote is very important but Charlie Kirk basically came out and said we can't bring gun violence to a zero. You know.

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Javier

I think you're talking about his statement that that

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Nelson

sometimes that gun violence we can't bring gun violence to zero. So for the sake of maintaining the second amendment we have to be okay with the continuation of gun violence.

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Nelson

Sometimes a death is worth maintaining the second amendment. That didn't age well. That didn't age well at all. And that's my issue with a lot of this is I'm gonna find that quote to my issue with this is you.

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Nelson

I I talked to a coworker and they basically said I think this is a phase like this rhetoric that's going on right now. I think this is a phase and I said no because I can see Charlie Kirk dying on his deathbed saying Donald Trump was the greatest president we've ever had.

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Nelson

Obviously I said that postmortem. Yeah.

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Nelson

My point still stands. This is not a this is a lifestyle at this point. These people legitimately believe everything that comes out of their mouth. I don't you you you could you you have that standard and you have a high standard for everybody you have you know that smidge of hope. I don't. So when you say Candace Owens is too smart to say the thing she says Charlie Kirk is too smart to say the things he says. I disagree with that. I think these people genuinely believe it. I think they are as smart as they are and they believe the dumb shit they say.

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Javier

I'll say this because human humans in our brain were very programmable right. They are they were trying to prepare themselves for what how they want America to look right and also know that there's going to be a prominent space that if the America that they want to come to fruition actually happens right.

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Javier

And here they are. They have a prominent spot right. Charlie Charlie Kirk is suddenly the one of the number one anchors and has a number one show in America you know kind of going along that that lens if he was still living and things turned out the way that he wanted it to turn out.

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Javier

These folks are very much so opportunists right.

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Javier

They will do and say whatever they need to in order to continue to make money right because and a lot of these and a lot of these fields like journalism right you know you go to you know you go to school for journalism and journalism and I'm pretty sure you take an oath right to uphold yes truth and all of that or journalism. Yeah.

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Javier

Like the medical one. Yeah. So if if you if you start warping your reality to where you want it to be right then you can start forgetting about some of those things that you learned right about being fair and accurate reporting and all of that right. So you know these folks in my opinion were just warping their reality in order for them to be the ones to be the pioneers or take off once everything they wanted to happen actually came to life.

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Javier

I think that's that's pretty much what they were doing warping their own reality.

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Nelson

Trying to find this quote. Sometimes deaths are a worthwhile cost for maintaining a second amendment.

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Javier

I remember with something towards those lines.

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Javier

I'm a fantasy.

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Nelson

You know we argue about the facts.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Fuck me. Hold on one second.

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Nelson

I want to find the exact one. It's good. Send this article.

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Nelson

And I'm again Yahoo News because you know Yahoo News is pretty rough. But so my my my disagreements with Charlie Kirk about his issues with the Black Lives Matter movement and all the red that he pushes and stuff like that.

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Nelson

I pretty much got that.

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Nelson

So now we move on to the next phase. The war against the Democrats.

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Nelson

That everybody your Alex Jones your your Fox News your president was coming out here and saying the Democrats have started a war.

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Nelson

Before they even found a fucking shooter. Yeah.

[01:15:55:26 - 01:15:58:04]

Nelson

Then you find the fucking shooter.

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Nelson

Tyler Robinson. I think this is his name.

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Nelson

22 years old.

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Nelson

Look at his voting records because we argued the facts. You look at his voting records unaffiliated.

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Nelson

Who is he voted? He hasn't. He's never voted.

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Nelson

This kid comes from a well-established Republican household.

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Nelson

Hunting equipment everywhere.

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Nelson

History everywhere. Smart kid got a full fund fucking scholarship to Utah University. Washington Utah University.

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Nelson

Smart kid 4.0 GPA in high school. Comes from a Republican background unaffiliated in his voting.

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Nelson

Who's starting a war?

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Nelson

I don't understand how people came out so easily and said this is the Democrats. This is the Democrats. This is the Democrats. Sometimes people just don't like people. They ain't got to do a political party. Sometimes Charlie Kirk said things that people fucking hate it. And sometimes Charlie Kirk created enemies from doing that. We all do it. Shut up.

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Nelson

None of my exes like me. But sometimes we create enemies with just the things we say. So that was just an enemy of Charlie Kirk.

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Nelson

Again, violence is not the answer. But that was an enemy of Charlie Kirk. And the fact that he's alive just gives time to understand as of the day it's recording. Everything is as of the day of this recording.

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Nelson

But this guy is still alive. So they can get all the information they need out of him, his motives and all of that stuff. But the fact that even the president was pushing that this is the Democrats is crazy to me.

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Javier

Be careful of the environment that you're trying to create or participate in. If this is not just a primary example of that.

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Nelson

You know, oh, I found it. Charlie Kirk said, I think it's worth to I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunate some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a completely alternate universe. That was his words.

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Nelson

Being the victim of your own quote is crazy. But that was his words. Yeah. It was a sacrifice that he said we needed to be ready to make.

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Nelson

Ironic. Sorry.

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Javier

No, I mean,

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Javier

and it might seem as though somebody took him up on that.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Javier

Again, you know.

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Nelson

It's a very unfortunate situation, but the political rhetoric behind this and like the way they're like the fact that it even overshadowed the fucking school shooting. Yeah. This is a political activist. We are not to say that he's less than but in the stance of how we're holding this. Yes.

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Javier

Listen,

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Javier

Charlie Kirk had a family. Yes.

[01:19:10:04 - 01:19:18:21]

Javier

But so did George Floyd. Yep. Or DeBrianna Taylor. Yep. So did Philando Castillo. I can keep going on all day. Trayvon Martin.

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Javier

Come on now.

[01:19:22:06 - 01:19:31:11]

Javier

We all have families and this environment that we are lending our anger towards and our energy towards, right?

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Javier

It's creating this environment that none of us are safe in.

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Nelson

Yes.

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Javier

None of us are safe in it. And when it happens to your side or it happens to somebody you beloved, right?

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Javier

You now want understanding the same understanding that you didn't give me and my community and the rest of Americans who believe that it was wrong for George Floyd to get killed.

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Nelson

And the even the difference is like the difference is monumental. This isn't a complaint about like this is these are fans of Charlie Kirk. These are partners of Charlie Kirk coming out of here and speaking. I'm just a black guy. Yeah. Mad that George Floyd was need for nine minutes.

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Javier

As you should be as an American. Yes.

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Javier

But you don't see it that way. Nope. Because you see us and you see minorities as other you don't as second class citizens. Right. If you don't, I get it.

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Javier

I get it now.

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Javier

Well, I don't have any hope. No, they didn't know they just.

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Javier

It's easy if you don't see certain people as as full class, full rights as citizens. Right.

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Speaker 5

Mm hmm.

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Javier

Then you there's no way you can think that your rights are being threatened.

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Nelson

Yeah. Right. Because we're not equal in their minds.

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Javier

Yes. Right.

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Javier

But remember, there will always need to be someone at the bottom in this society. A working class.

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Nelson

The jester, the therapist, the babysitter.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

The meme all era. The memo.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

But, you know, again, I don't I don't condone any violence. Same. Right. But this looks like.

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Nelson

This is a start to a huge problem. This is not going away. This entire situation gets a fucking a massive riot out of me. Oh, yeah. Because now I there's it's not going to stop. And the problem with this and this is kind of my super big tie in for the whole two protests and to write theme is.

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Nelson

It's. Donald Trump is not helping this situation at all. He is not helping in the slightest. He is making things worse because what it's going to lead to is a political democratic figure getting murdered. Yeah.

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Javier

And it's already happened. Yes. The Massachusetts.

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Nelson

It was in Minnesota, Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. And then so they even affected. What's her name? Fucking me. I forgot. When she came out and said the Democrats need to own this and the reporter said so shouldn't the Republicans own the killing of the two Democratic congressmen from Massachusetts?

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Javier

Did you all forget Kathy?

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Javier

Kathy Giffords got killed. I mean, got shot in the head. The Congresswoman from Arizona when Obama was president. Right. Her husband is now he's an astronaut. He's now the U.S. Senator from Arizona. Right. But yeah, she miraculously survived.

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Javier

A gunshot to the head.

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Javier

Right. This this level of political violence has been going on for a little while for a long time. And when it's your turn or when it's a figure you care about that speaks to your truth. Right. Your truth. Not the not the truth. Not the truth. It's very important.

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Javier

Now you want empathy.

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Javier

Now you want sympathy. Right.

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Javier

And I don't think a lot of these folks even have enough self-awareness.

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Nelson

I don't even think they want that. I will stop you dead right there in those tracks. I don't think they want sympathy or empathy. I think they want retaliation.

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Nelson

I think they want revenge.

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Javier

It's an excuse for the retail for any type of retaliation that they want to take. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do agree with that.

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Nelson

Yeah. I think this is a golden opportunity for the the maggots to incite violence now and then blame it on. Well it's because you took Charlie Kirk from us.

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Javier

America it is now a situation of us versus them. Right. It's the rest of America and the maggots. Yeah. Right. And I want you to and I wouldn't I would have never said anything like this. Normal times. Right.

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Javier

God do you do you think that Germany wish they would have said that it was us versus Nazis right before they came in and took over everything.

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Javier

You don't want to miss your opportunity. Right. We can label this what it is. Let's label it what it is. Right. Because I had that I saw a video where they were like you know it was a group of guys in California talking about white man fight back.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

We know what that we know what that is. Yep. We know exactly what that is. Right. But you all the all the pawns. Right. You're being used right to fight a movement or to fight some type of war that they don't want to get their hands dirty on.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

Against people that aren't don't really want a war. No. That's kind of the thing. And that's not at all one of my biggest issues you maggots maggots are sitting here talking about it's war against the Democrats. Democrats didn't do anything to you. Democrats didn't take nobody from you. That was an unaffiliated 22 year old college kid that came from a Republican household. Yeah. That is very fucking important. That came from a Republican household. Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk from you.

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Javier

He wasn't far right enough. Yes. For him. Think about that.

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Javier

Let it marinate. Yeah. Because this is who you tied your alliance to. Right. Now you're you know you're in with a group of folks that might be willing to do some extreme things. Yep. That you never wanted to do. Right. And that's why you're here. Right. And you're here. And you're here. Right. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. And you're here. You never wanted to do. Yep. Right. You just thought you were agreed somehow.

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Javier

Right. You were agreed somehow because God forbid we all been talking about greed and wealth. Right. And you all were so stuck in the fact that you think they got that on their own. Right. And that you can come somehow get there one day. Right. I promise you all of the things that you are suffering from. Right. You don't feel as though you've gotten the piece of the pie because you are white. Right. It's not because of us.

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Javier

It can never

[01:26:27:17 - 01:26:30:24]

Nelson

be because of us. We were too busy pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps.

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Javier

It can never be because of us. Right. You better start looking towards who's actually trying to keep you where you are. Right. Because it ain't us. It ain't me. It ain't me. Trust me. It ain't me.

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Javier

Because you know what?

[01:26:51:11 - 01:26:52:04]

Javier

If it was.

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Javier

There'd be a lot more riots. It'd probably be probably be more successful.

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Javier

Right. God forbid if you if you could just get the fact that you know most of African-Americans just want peace.

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Nelson

Yep. And left the fuck alone. Just want peace. And left the fuck alone.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

But you know what. Again the trick in the Jedi mind trick is not just set up for African-Americans in this country set up for everybody. Right. And once you start calling this out calling people out for being hateful right and saying hey this is not the type of environment that we want to create for everyone. Right.

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Javier

Then you can start having better dialogue. Right. Then you can start bridging the gap. Right. You have one conversation with me. Have one conversation with somebody that's black and knows what they're talking about. Right. And you will find out that you have more in common than you don't. And what Charlie Kirk was talking about.

[01:28:04:03 - 01:28:12:16]

Javier

It wasn't true. It was based out of stereotyping. Yep. And lazy researching.

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Nelson

That's what it is. This is the same guy that said if I see a black pilot the first thought that goes through my head is I hope he's qualified. That's crazy. That is fucking wild. That's crazy.

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Javier

But it's not crazy. Right.

[01:28:27:16 - 01:28:29:02]

Javier

If that's the bubble that you live in.

[01:28:31:26 - 01:28:38:24]

Javier

I don't know about y'all but this this this these bubbles are just not looking good for any of us. Nope.

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Nelson

And it gets worse because the last point of this whole topic is the fact that they are silencing anybody that is against Charlie Kirk, which is why we had to preface that in the beginning that we are against political violence. We're against violence to argue points. But they are silencing anybody that is anti-Kirk. And by them you know who I'm talking about. Donald Trump.

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Javier

I know one thing. You can't you can't sit here and talk about freedom because you you you will. It was all freedom of speech when when when Obama and Biden were the president. Right.

[01:29:14:03 - 01:29:24:11]

Nelson

All about freedom. It was all freedom of speech when the fucking health care CEO got shot in front of fucking Starbucks a month ago. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:29:25:16 - 01:29:30:00]

Nelson

Or it was all freedom of speech when Nancy Pelosi's husband got his shit pushed in. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

But you know it's unconstitutional. It's it well it's the hypocrisy of it. And that's that's the part I hate the most. I hate hypocrisy. Right.

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Javier

And I know it's such a natural human thing. But but we can not do it. We can get better at it. Right. And all you all are doing is doubling down in it. Right. You're creating an environment that's not going to be safe for any of us to fight peacefully to fight peacefully.

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Javier

Listen, I ain't trying to have nothing coming down my block. Right. And and I ain't trying to go to nobody else's block because of something that didn't happen to me or somebody that I love. Right.

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Nelson

That I'm trying to blow this up. I am trying to build YCC into a bigger and better company every fucking day. And now I have a news and politics podcast and I have to worry about what I say on here might get me shot in the street because the maggots feel like we are at war with them or get fired or get fired now. I don't really care about that one though. Yeah.

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Javier

Bring it on.

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Nelson

I'm worried about getting shot in the head. I got family I want to protect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I can't do that dead. So again, yes. Charlie Kirkhead family.

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Nelson

So did George Floyd. So did Brianna Taylor.

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Nelson

All these guys had family to pray about Martin. Go on. This could go on all fucking day. Martin Luther King. Malcolm X.

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Javier

If if you understood that.

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Javier

What Nelson is saying is he can't defend his family dead. But if you also understood that he can't feel as he can't protect his family by also being silent.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

Then I would hope on a basic human level you would be able to resonate with that in some kind of form. Because that isn't that not the whole basis for MAGA that you felt like so long your voices have been the minority voice in the Republican Party or the conservative movement. Right. And now you have a vessel to just say all of the the most hurtful and racist things that you could possibly say because you want the country or you always wanted the country to look more like you.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

I don't have a problem with you using Charlie Kirk as a martyr. I have no problem with that whatsoever. If that's what ideology you agree with. That's fine. I use that to push a hateful rhetoric towards me.

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Nelson

Do not use his death as a motive to push a hateful motive towards Democrats towards minorities or anybody that does not agree with Charlie Kirk.

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Nelson

I didn't do that to him.

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Nelson

Democrats didn't do that to him. Take your smoke out on that kid that was arrested for murdering him. And that's it.

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Nelson

This isn't a Democrats versus Republicans. This isn't a blacks versus Charlie Kirk. This is a Charlie Kirk's family versus this kid. That is it. That is your war.

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Nelson

If you always his family and friends are you always partners in crime. If y'all are his biggest advocates and fans. That's fine. Take your smoke out with that kid. Do not bring it to the Democratic Party. Do not bring it to black people. Do not bring it to the rest of America. Your smoke is with him and he is alive to take your smoke.

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Nelson

Bring me your other smoke.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

I don't want that one. There's a real there's a real fight to be had peacefully might I say. But that ain't it. That ain't it. I don't I don't advocate for that.

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Javier

I didn't advocate for that. Nobody black has had anything to do with that man. Nobody black was there and if nobody

[01:33:49:09 - 01:33:52:01]

Nelson

black was even there. So I don't know the fuck you want from me.

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Javier

Also from the group of folks who subscribe so much to personal responsibility. My God.

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Javier

If there could just be one person that's just like you know what on their side.

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Javier

Maybe we don't want him and all the folks that are stoked to fire. Maybe this is this we haven't set up such a polite and inviting environment. Yeah. Discourse table. It's bad. It's bad. The civil discourse has been declining in America for so long. Yep. And now it's at the point where you all never thought we would be. We're here now. Yep. In the mud right here in the mud right because the high road was officially given up when you know Obama gave the blessing to give up the high road. Right. But is it. Give me that peaceful transition to power or the whole he was like you know what go ahead and rewrite those those redraw those districts. Go ahead redraw those districts.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah. But also hold on because we smoke has to go on both sides. I'm a strong advocate for there is correction needed on both. With that being said liberals stop taking blame.

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Nelson

That's my biggest problem with you guys right now. Stop taking the fucking blame. You didn't do this unaffiliated 22 year old college kid from a Republican household. The same guy shit to do with you.

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Javier

And I don't know if you could you paid attention to the beginning of this but nowhere did you hear any type of apology or any type of sorry for blaming you guys. No none of that none of that. I still blaming you. We don't agree with the action. We don't agree people should be killed for that. Right. But here we are right. Also talking about.

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Javier

This is the environment that he created correct that he helped create

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Nelson

the most divisive president we've ever had in a lifetime.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

And is that is that it's actually a strength of his yep playing on that.

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Javier

You all allowing it to be a strength.

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Javier

Because it doesn't have to be. This should have been from the beginning his weakness. Yep.

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Nelson

But you we allowed it now in power to him with that. You know you'll like the mean. You'll like the jokes. Yeah. You'll like when he's funny. Yeah. Yeah. He's funny. I mean I mean I

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Javier

mean he's funny but like you didn't feel like motivated enough to get out your ear off your fucking couch and go vote.

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Speaker 12

Yeah.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

OK.

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Nelson

Yeah. Take your smoke up with the non voters. Unaffiliate. No I'm just kidding. I don't do that.

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Nelson

Take your smoke up with him. Tyler Robinson. OK. Take your smoke up with that kid.

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Javier

Stop falling in love with these candidates. Yeah that too. Fall in like.

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Nelson

Fall in like. Right. And understand it's OK to disagree.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Fall in like because it's not your end all be all because once they nobody can stand up to the pedestal that you put them on. Yeah.

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Nelson

Nobody. I like Obama and I like Biden and like everything about everybody. Right.

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Javier

And you already know that. Know my boys. Right. But at the very same time. Right. If you don't have the capacity.

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Javier

Or quite frankly the the the maturity.

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Javier

To decide that you can.

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Javier

Disagree with people on certain things and agree with them certain things but like that there's a line that people shouldn't cross. Yes. Right.

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Javier

And that is putting other people down in order to enrich enrich your political position. Yep. Right. It's not right.

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Javier

Simply it's not right.

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Javier

I know we've all been.

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Javier

Lie to and and and and and. Stolen from cheated on. And used in. And I'm especially talking about in the political atmosphere right.

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Javier

Everything is was talked through through the lens of red and blue when they should have just simply been talked through the lens of.

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Javier

My fellow American.

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Javier

But you all like that the tribal stuff. Yep. Right. And and it's a warm mongrel. It feels so natural right to just retreat to your own.

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Javier

Having your own haven of ideas and people who look like you. Right. And we've all done it. Right. But the difference is is that most of us on the minority side have to deal with everybody. Yep. Half to deal. Right.

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Nelson

In order to move up. And that's just to yes just to make it just

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Javier

yeah just to take the average piece of the pie.

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Javier

Right.

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Nelson

I mean we try to do it by ourselves but y'all burn down Tosa.

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Javier

That happened.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

But Charlie Kirk is gone now. He's gone.

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Javier

And I know that when I saw the news I just I couldn't believe that it was happening.

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Javier

But the first thing that came to my mind was.

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Javier

This is the environment.

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Nelson

Yep.

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Nelson

This is the environment not created by one side.

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Nelson

So this is definitely the American bed we made in the bed we have to sleep in. And there's only one bed master that can tell us to calm the fuck down. But it has to go to everybody. You can't just tell one side to calm down. It's not the liberals. It's not only the liberals. It's the American people. The American people need to tighten the fuck up and calm the fuck down. Fuck it the fuck up. All of y'all need to do better moving forward. This is a this is my statement to the American people. All y'all need to tighten it the fuck up.

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Nelson

But we will we will act like the reality is the reality. One side is doing it worse. You maggots need to calm the fuck down more because y'all are doing it worse.

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Nelson

America is not storming the Capitol. Just the maggots. Yeah. So that I got to sit here and act like the Democrats are doing just as bad as the Republicans. Now the American people need to calm the fuck down. But you Republican leaders and you Republican billmakers. Y'all need to do better.

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Nelson

Yeah. Is y'all are the the fire starter to a lot of this situation.

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Nelson

What was your verdict on this?

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Nelson

I know there's a lot of different micro topics in the one topic.

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Javier

If things keep going the way that they're going, this is right.

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Nelson

Wait, where are you at now?

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Javier

If we just talking about him being killed.

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Nelson

Well, not just him being killed, but the result of him being killed. The aftermath of him being killed.

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Javier

This is.

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Javier

I think this for me might just be a protest. This motherfucker.

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Nelson

This motherfucker spent 30 minutes, 35 minutes talking to y'all and telling y'all you need to do better just to say it's a protest. It's this guy, right?

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Javier

And you know, you know, you really got to get yourself together. And it's like, oh, what you think about it? Oh, it's a protest.

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Speaker 5

We're

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Javier

not going to. We're not going to ruffle anything.

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Nelson

It's a fucking ride for me, guys.

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Nelson

As soon as that happened, as soon as I heard the this is the Democrats and I and I tune into a lot of lot of lot of Republican figureheads just to see what they're saying. Not for because I'm a fan or anything. Just to see what they're saying. And that rhetoric that immediately got pushed afterwards. I was like, fuck. And I whole time I'm thinking, I hope this guy's in a Democrat. I hope this guy is a Democrat. I jumped out of my seat when I found out he was unaffiliated. Yeah. But these guys are murdering and he deserves to spend a decent amount of time in jail and average amount of time in jail because Charlie Kirk was just an activist. And I hate to say it. So the average time that people spend in jail for murder is the amount of time that he's just been there based on Utah's state laws.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

No, no, no.

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Javier

That's an assassinating elected official. Yes, exactly. Yeah. It's a different kind of correct law for that.

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Javier

Yeah. No, honestly, it's a protest for me because I know that it's not B needs to change per say. Right. It is. It's really you all need to come back to reality with us. Right. I agree. And I'm just going to protest to that. I'm no longer. I don't feel that I don't have the energy and I don't feel the need anymore to try to draw you to what we've all been seeing as Americans. Right. If you don't see me as an American anyways, right. You're lost nigga. And, you know, how can I even really have a conversation with you? Right. Fair. But you know what? This is a protest for me because you know what? Unfortunately he was assassinated.

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Javier

And unfortunately also I know what kind of environment that this is creating and can create.

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Nelson

Right. Yeah. But I know what kind of environment this came from.

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Javier

Yeah. It came from hate. It came from hate. Political hate. I think that we've I've just seen too much of now.

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Nelson

Two words that should never be used in the same sentence. Political and hate should never be. Political disagreement is the maximum. Yeah.

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Javier

Political hate just is stupid. Yeah. Because we all walk working towards the same goal seemingly. Right. But you have to also see your fellow man and woman. Right. As an equal as an American and women because they have rights now. They absolutely do. Right. Thank God.

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Javier

But you know. I'm kidding.

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Nelson

You are for that one. You are for that one. Comedy style guys.

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Javier

Comedy style. And that's why Marco Rubio is his boy.

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Nelson

I was a joke guy.

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Javier

And that's why Marco Rubio is his boy.

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Nelson

I was joking. Shoot.

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Nelson

But yeah. He gives it a process. I give it a riot. I'm done with this trick. Charlie Kirk shit. But I didn't want to get my shit off about that because this this is gonna be some shit movie for it. And if this episode is no longer aired in about three weeks, it's because or

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Javier

except to us now neither one of us have a job anymore. Right. But I'll tell you this. I know I'm going to fight it. Yeah. I know I'm going to fight it. I didn't say anything. You guys pulled me out kicking and screaming. Yeah. And you know what? I didn't censor myself. This is exactly what I wanted to say. This is the exact energy I had for this situation when it happened.

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Nelson

I don't think I did either. To be honest. I obviously I prefaced it by saying murders back. Yeah. I'm not going to be doing it. I'm killing people. Yeah. I believe there are some things in life that are worth dying for. But I don't think there are things in life. Well, no, I do think there are things in life worth killing for. But this was not one of them. But political disagreement is not something you kill somebody for.

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Nelson

So and I don't think he should have died for his political stance or his political views or anything like that. You guys should be muted. You guys should be canceled.

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Nelson

I'm not a freshman fit, but I put that post. No. But I put up on social media. I was like,

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Nelson

I there are some people post there are people or I was like, this week has taught me a valuable lesson. There are people that post rest in peace, George Floyd. And then there are people that post rest in peace to Charlie Kurt and the people that post rest in peace to both of them like fresh and fit. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

That is what I learned this week.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that's true.

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Nelson

But yeah, you know, if you like both your black Nazis.

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Nelson

So, yeah, I'm good off that. You know, what was in his last topic? Get your comparisons off. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. Ready whenever you are.

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Javier

All right. I'm a. See the just the screen up here.

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Nelson

Oh, shit.

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Nelson

I'll open it up. The country loves lining up Obama and Trump like it's some great contrast. The thinker versus the deal maker, the diplomat versus the distributor.

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Nelson

But.

[01:47:09:26 - 01:47:37:03]

Nelson

Or the diplomat versus the disruptor. But step back. Did either one keep America safer? Obama sold hope while drone strikes stacked up. Trump sold chaos while Putin got invited back into Main Street. Different styles staying same as Trump. And stability. At what point do we stop judging the packaging and start judging the results? Protests or riot when the lesser evil keeps leaving us with the same scars? Do we keep new leaders or a new system?

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Javier

I'm actually going to say this one's a riot for me. That's wild. Yeah.

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Javier

The reason it's a riot for me is because we have to stop doing this shit.

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Javier

You because I just if I said it earlier.

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Javier

About falling in like instead of falling in love. Yeah, you're political leaders, right? We put too much.

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Javier

And don't get me. Obama was the perfect person to put everything into. And especially at that time that listen as my favorite president is who I idolize and look up to.

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Javier

Right. All jokes aside, like he is he is like he he is the one from I see what he was able to do. And I'm like, my God.

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Javier

If that wasn't one of the closest examples of pulling yourself up by your bootstrap, right? That's what happened. The impossible feat. Right. But.

[01:48:37:15 - 01:48:44:24]

Javier

There there is a there's a very distinct similarity between Donald Trump and Barack Obama.

[01:48:45:25 - 01:48:52:00]

Javier

And it has nothing to do with their styles, really. Or Barack Obama, let me just start off by saying this is.

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Javier

A million times more qualified. He's the most qualified president you've ever seen. Right. Ever seen.

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Nelson

And I'm talking about his. And the fact that he was able to win.

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Javier

Yes. Yeah. That man tied together so many different coalitions. Right. That I implore you all to go and look at the 2008 map for the presidential election and the 2012 map. That man had the map. Right. To the point where. Twice. Most of us was consecutively. We're like, do we even really need to pay attention to this 2016 election on election night? Right. We all most of us thought it was a lot for Hillary Clinton. Right. Because technically it was.

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Nelson

But popular vote.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But listen. Listen.

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Javier

The man had the map and had all of these coalitions, some of which detracted to.

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Javier

Donald Trump side. Right.

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Javier

So.

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Javier

How is one person, one person you put in everything right without having to set up a successor or another generation of people who think like that right or in leaders in the party. Right.

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Javier

You put everything into him.

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Javier

And then.

[01:50:21:07 - 01:50:33:23]

Javier

Hillary Clinton loses the map that he was damn near supposed to be guaranteed for. Correct. Right. Now we can get into why she lost and and is this this is I'm not gonna say as a whole lot to that. It's a few things that happened that.

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Nelson

I mean the landscape changed as far as like the bad mouthing politics. Well that was a huge issue where the trust went out the window. Yeah. And it wasn't about like who do we trust to make better. Like who who makes us feel like you know they get us a little bit more. Yeah.

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Javier

Even though that wasn't the reality of the situation. Yeah. No she was and she was also a very imperfect candidate. Correct. She's the most qualified candidate that we've ever had. Correct. I will always say that right. And her strength would have been in governing not necessarily campaigning. Correct. Right. All of that. But again I just feel as though like I said in my monologue Donald Trump is the knockoff fake Jordan Baldwin brother the younger one version of Barack Obama. Right. But Barack is is with everything more everything more and all the good stuff right. All the good attributes. He's more than Donald Trump. Right.

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Javier

But they occupied the same space.

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Javier

That's my comparison. Yeah.

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Javier

As soon as Barack left right.

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Javier

Loss. And then what happened. They gave they then skipped over Bernie Sanders. Who by the way all the you know the the the what came out during the 2016 primaries that it wasn't really fair to him. He got the opportunity to write a lot of the new rules in the Democratic Party for the next go around which he was going to be in. Right. And remember he won Iowa. Right. He won New Hampshire. Right. But what happened when he got to South Carolina.

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Javier

Everybody I was one of the only people that I knew that was sit at the time like that don't mean anything. Wait till we get to South Carolina. Right. And and what happened. And what happened. The black vote delivered for Joe Biden. Joe Biden got the most votes in the Democratic primary history.

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Javier

More than Hillary more than Barack. Yeah right. And this was supposed to be. Hey we go in revolution this time right. We go and Bernie Sanders because right. Biden is no revolutionary. Right. Right. He's old fashioned itself. But we were so nostalgic. And to get a little to get a vote of Obama. Right. That we elected Joe Biden. He was the steady hand going in to clean up the mess the same way Barack did for Bush. Right. I want I want people to really think about that.

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Javier

Decision to choose Biden over.

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Javier

Bernie Sanders and what message what message that really sent.

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Javier

To how voters were thinking right. It really seemed just a coalition of you know moderate. Let's get the country going back and the familiar folks who wanted Obama or a piece of Obama. Right. That that coalition stayed and went forward. Right. But then we got to the election with Kamala. Right.

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Javier

And it's like Democrats had to start all over again because there was without starting all over again. There was nothing else to remind them of Obama. Yeah.

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Nelson

And that's and so here at my counter not counter argument but my my tidbit on this whole situation is we have to get out of the era. We have to and I've argued not I think I've argued with you about this in a couple of coworkers. I say Joe Biden was probably one of the most effective presidents we've ever had. I agree. In a long time even more effective than Barack Obama. Now I will argue what Barack Obama did for the American people especially us as minorities is insurmountable to what Joe Biden could have done. But as far as effective presidency Joe Biden had one of the greatest presidential runs a president has ever had as far as bipartisan bills as part of his new act and bills that he was able to push and everything like that is almost unmatched. So he had one of the most effective presidencies around. There's a lot of context to that.

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Javier

Agree. A lot of context like like Biden didn't already start out with I don't know the Republican leader in the Senate saying my number one goal is to make you a one term president. Right. I go. And so they both they both started with two different type of crisis. Right. Right. One was more of a financial crisis. Right. And the other one was a financial crisis and like the world pandemic. Yeah right. So he had to get it. They had to kind of give him a little bit of give. Yeah. In the beginning and Democrats to their credit use that as an opportunity to add a bunch of I would say progressive priorities right into life. So it's it's a lot of these which was some of the largest bills ever written and American history. Right. And just for context every bill going forward a lot it's going to they're going to break records because the way this this country spends money now you that you saying this is the most me saying this is the most the largest bill in the history doesn't even really mean anything anymore.

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Nelson

It's like saying it's another larger bill in four years.

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Javier

The fact that every summer is going to be the hottest summer of your lifetime because of climate change. That's the fact. Right. So is it. It is. I see what you did there. It's a fact in this space.

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Nelson

But I personally think we have to get out of this era. We have to get out of the era of the Clintons the Obama's the the Trump's the the Biden's the Harris we have to get out of the air. It's time for a new wave of politicians to start hitting the the the frontliners because now it just seems like the only reason that Hillary ran was because Clinton was our president. The only reason Biden ran was because Obama was our president. The only reason Harris ran was because of the because Biden was our president. The only reason Trump won a second time was because he was president once. But like, yeah, no, you got to get out of that era. Yeah, like we have to get out of the air. Every president doesn't have to be directly affiliated with the previous president. Sometimes we just need to take a new candidate and vote for that new candidate versus another new candidate. I'm tired of this.

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Javier

If you ever meet me and we have a have a conversation about like mental health or anything like that, you know, and you start asking me, like, you know, you know, what was your journey with it? And, you know, did you go to therapy? And the answer is yes. And I was told to date my therapist and not in that kind of way. Right. But in in a way that you you you see who's right for you. Right. This is a difference of just falling in love right off love at first sight versus actually dating. Who could be right for you. Right. So America, please. Right. Obviously, obviously, this two party system is not trying to marry your president. Please date them first. Right. They fall in like falling like and you know who actually was pretty good at that for a little while. Republicans, they weren't necessarily falling in love, but you know what? That was the problem. Right. The reason they the reason McCain would have never beat Obama, the reason that Romney would have never beat Obama, right,

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Javier

was because they didn't fall in love with those candidates. Right. They fell in like and they thought that they had to kind of take a page out of Democrats book because they wanted an Obama of their own. Yeah. Right. But what they got was Donald Trump.

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Nelson

And motherfuckers will die on their deathbed saying that Donald Trump was the greatest president ever.

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Javier

I did not. I started this off by talking about mental health. Right. Yeah, it's important. It is. Don't don't do that. Don't do that. Date date your your candidates. Right. Not literally. Please don't. But date your candidates. Go out here. So all politicians are corrupt. And you know what? And you know what? And with that line of thinking.

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Javier

Nothing will ever seem legit to you unless you're the one making the decision. Agree.

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Javier

Because you can run if you want to. Right. You can be the change that you want to be that you want to see. Right. But I suspect most of you just want to sit back and complain. Yeah, that's easier.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Javier

Right. I'm not going to. No, Nelson is not going to. Hell no. And if we have to be the annoying nat in your house that engages you and what's going on in, I don't know, your life, your kids lives. Right. The future of your family and the future of this country.

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Javier

Right. Then we'll do so.

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Javier

We'll do so. We'll continue to to be that little bug in your head like, hey, don't be stupid once a month. Yeah. Yeah. Don't wash your ass.

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Javier

Right. But but.

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Javier

Listen, I think there are lessons to be learned from my Obama and Donald Trump comparison. Right. And don't ever get it confused. That the only comparison that I have for them is the space that they occupied for their parties. Yes. Right. They are. They are.

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Nelson

Both of them pretty much. The problem is Obama ran it where we didn't realize it was the case. But they both run a very vibe oriented campaign where it's all about how you feel in the moment. Now, Obama made you feel something.

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Nelson

Trump took advantage of how you felt. There's a difference. But it was both very both vibe oriented for both of them. We got to get out of that. That's why I think we need. We got to stop trying to relate our next politician to. Well, how did he contribute to the last politician? We got to get out of that rhetoric. We got to get out of that mindset. We got to stop voting like that. Find a candidate that you like and vote on the candidate that you like. Look at their views. Look at their history. Look at their bills. Stop listening to what the other person has said about that unless you go and fact check to see if that's actually true. And you know, your motherfuckers aren't doing that. So just stop listening to the opposite candidate. Talk about your candidate. Just listen to every candidate and

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Javier

you can actually hold them accountable. They're not going to be in that position forever. Right. So either you have you give them a list of things you want them to fight for and you can judge because you're not going to get everything you want. Right.

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Nelson

But you can just stop thinking that you're going to get everything that you want.

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Javier

You're not right. Because here's my thing. You sit in here and you.

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Javier

The thing that you do in your life.

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Javier

It's probably so far away from influence and politicians in Washington.

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Nelson

That's why a lot of you motherfuckers sit there and be like, nothing changed when this person became president.

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Javier

So if you think that all you have to do is just go vote. You're wrong.

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Speaker 5

Yes.

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Javier

You're wrong. 100 percent. You're wrong. Right. We yes, we are in a representative democracy. We choose people to go make decisions for us in Washington. Right. Because God forbid if this was a direct democracy, we had to vote on everything. Right. We never get any.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

It'd be one or two people voting every single time. Yeah. So my name, George and Mary.

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Nelson

But not Floyd because a police officer killed him by being on his neck for nine. And I'm sorry. That one. I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 5

Yeah.

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Nelson

Brethren, you ain't it, though?

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Nelson

Ain't it, though? Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

Be the Charlie Kirk of your society. God, that didn't age well. No.

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Javier

No, the answer is no.

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Nelson

But yeah, don't don't be Charlie Kirk of your society, but be a advocate and be an activist of your society. If if politics is actually important to you.

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Nelson

I'm not a good leader when it comes to politics. That's why I don't lead. I just speak freely and I create spaces for speaking freely.

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Nelson

I don't lead canvases and stuff like that. I just talk and I get messages across speak to everybody, though. I'm not one party oriented. I come on this podcast in a very liberal mindset because I'm super anti Trump. But I'm not anti conservative. I don't know why people keep thinking that I'm not anti conservative, not anti. I'm not super pro fucking extremist leftist snow flaky.

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Nelson

I'm just anti maggots.

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Javier

Learn civil discourse that too and learn where it should be applied, right? I'm not sitting here saying that you all have to have the the Harvard debate of debates. Nope. On social media. Right.

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Nelson

But, you know, learn how to hear somebody say something that you disagree with and then conversate with.

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Javier

Don't don't allow the secretary of HHS to go on to a panel and just flat out lie. Yes. Right. The charlatan. Don't let him go on and flat out lie. Right. Hold people accountable. Right.

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Nelson

Stop letting your president lie.

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Nelson

But the the the the fuck the president's employee. Yeah, stop letting the president come on TV and lie. Yeah. Call him out.

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Nelson

Fuck.

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Nelson

All right. That was a reflex.

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Javier

Hey, stop letting your your conservative uncle at Thanksgiving lie. You don't have to let them lie. Right. You could politely say, hey.

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Javier

Shut the fuck up. Yeah, right.

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Javier

I don't want to talk about this right now.

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Nelson

But I even disagree with that. That's a family member. Let them lie. You didn't vote for them to be in your family. You didn't vote for them to be at the table unless you did. Then you fucked up. But stop letting the people that you vote for blatantly fucking lie to both your face and the rest of America. Don't blur the standards now.

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Javier

Yeah, that don't blur the standards. Right. It's it's politician. It's excuse me. Y'all don't like that word. It's public servant, somebody who was elected elected official. Right. And then sorry, then there's your uncle at at Thanksgiving who, you know, never lived up to what mama wanted him to do, what grandma wanted him to do. But that's the difference. Right. One is making decisions for all of us. Right. Or for majority of us. And the other one

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Nelson

is just a drunk uncle at the. Fucking did dinner table.

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Javier

Right. And and listen, his his failure to be whatever he was supposed to be. That's on him. Right. You don't have anything to do that, but you did vote.

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Javier

You did vote for that Congresswoman or that congressman to go in there and cut Medicaid.

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Javier

To go in there and to

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Nelson

send the National Guard to D.C. And to be in possibly Chicago, possibly in North Carolina.

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Javier

You didn't do that.

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Javier

And I'm just wondering, I'm just wondering if and pardon everybody that's throwing the Capitol. If you have a baseline,

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Javier

do you know where the line is? Yeah.

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Javier

You're more your executive functioning, right? Because you're you're conflating the scales so much so that Donald Trump is the president.

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Javier

Can't tell you how many people really thought that would happen. I bet you people thought it'd be a black president before Donald Trump. I mean, technically it was. Well, it was. It was. It was. It was. It was. Shout out to Obama for getting in there first, sparking the flame and Donald Trump.

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Javier

Because that he that correspondence dinner was just eye opening from.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. He said nobody will ever be able to make fun of me again. Yeah. Except me, because I'm not big enough yet, but I will be. And I'll be canceled and I'll just start over again.

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Nelson

Three protests or three riots.

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Javier

Pete Hexf.

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Nelson

See you in court, baby.

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Javier

Bring it on because I need to have a uniform on or like you really want to go down that route.

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Nelson

Hey, we just did blues inspection not too long ago. OK, they're ready. Yeah. Do it. Especially since I got that outstanding volunteer service medal coming. Yeah, man.

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Javier

Because the first amendment can't be just for some. Yeah, can't be for people who especially

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Nelson

for the people that are fighting for the first amendment to be maintained.

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Javier

Right. Right. And that part. Right. But you wouldn't understand that.

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Javier

I'm sorry. No, he's not. No, I was going to ask is

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Javier

the way he threw that threat out at us. It's like he was off the bottle.

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Javier

Department of War. It was off the bottle.

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Javier

Department of War. Yeah.

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Javier

Was he the one in the meeting that spoke up and said, I think it should be called the department. I like that idea, sir.

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Nelson

I wouldn't be surprised. I thought that was originally a Trump idea, but I wouldn't know.

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Javier

No, I mean, like it was like I think it was he was he the first one to bootlick that? Oh, probably. OK, OK, OK. I thought anything you need, Mr. Trump.

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Nelson

Professional bootlicking. Yeah. You got anything else before we get out of here?

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Javier

No, no, just this. This is a time right now. This is a time and.

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Javier

It's really important for us to be safe out here and to be aware of our surroundings and to be aware of our mouths.

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Javier

Because words do matter. And I think that's kind of where

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Javier

everybody who was who was opposed to Obama. Right. But words don't matter. Right. Words do matter. He showed you that these words matter. I can pinpoint different phrases and and and and different words that Obama said in his speeches because they mattered to me. Right. And it

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Javier

prompted me to to change direction and to to seek different directions. Right. But words matter. Right. And you don't want to get we're already at that point to where

[02:09:17:20 - 02:09:23:21]

Javier

people are pretty much thinking that their words don't matter. Right. And as you can see, that is contrary to the truth.

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Javier

Based off of what happened this week, and it's unfortunate because I know he he didn't want to he doesn't want to he doesn't want to be a martyr. If if I could put myself in his shoes.

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Javier

When he was living.

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Javier

I know for sure.

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Javier

He did not want to wake up that day and not be alive.

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Javier

Mm hmm. And.

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Javier

I want you all to think about that before you go trying to make him a martyr. Right. He was very reckless and irresponsible with his rhetoric. Very, very hurtful. And.

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Javier

I.

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Javier

I will never get the chance to meet him to either one, tell him about himself or to just be like, hey, why would you say something like that? Like, and like, you haven't you could have one have a two minute conversation with me and you know that I'm not one of these people under qualified, that's under qualified or you know what I mean? And what like do you understand, like what your rhetoric is doing to our young man and our young women and how it's more importantly emboldened emboldening people

[02:10:36:13 - 02:10:41:11]

Javier

who agree with you to continue to treat us this way. You know.

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Javier

You know.

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Javier

I don't know whether to tell him to rest in peace or.

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Javier

Hey, like, I'm just I'm sorry you got killed, right? But I'm also sorry

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Nelson

that you ended your life going things this way, you.

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Javier

You couldn't see.

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Javier

The true beauty of humanity, of us being together, that you you succeeded and profited off of us being type of device, divided.

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Javier

And that's your legacy. That's your legacy.

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Javier

And I don't have anything nice to say about your legacy. All I have to say is that you didn't deserve you didn't deserve to die.

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Javier

But your legacy and how I will forever remember you, because I don't know you right is through all the hate that you spew towards my way and people who look like me. Yep. So.

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Javier

You know.

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Javier

There's that.

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Nelson

I don't have anything. I think I got a decent amount of my smoke off and I feel like this episode, we did a lot less debating each other and more talking to them. And that's very important because, again, yeah, we tell you how we feel about situations, but we also have to be corrective in it. So sometimes us spilling out the facts is more about us just spilling out the facts to you. We talk. We know.

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Nelson

We have these conversations. The platform is for us to give these conversations to you all. You do what you see fit. You protest or you riot.

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Nelson

I'm Nelson. I'm here. At you. Later. All right. Peace.

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Speaker 5

I.

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Speaker 5

Took.

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Speaker 12

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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Speaker 12

To catch on fire.

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Episode 2: I See My House In Russia

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Nelson

When Trump rolls into DC like it's his own personal monopoly board, snatching control of the city away from its mayor and council, do we call that law and order? Or just a soft launch for dictatorship cosplay with the National Guard playing stage crew?

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Javier

If Putin and Trump are clinking vodka shots at the Alaska summit, whispering sweet nothings about sanctions and pipelines, was that diplomacy or just two bond villains drawing evil plans on a cocktail napkin while we pay for the tab?

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Nelson

When Texas redraws districts like they're doodling with a Sharpie on the back of black and brown voters, do we call that governance? Or is it just Jim Crow's little cousin with Google Maps?

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Javier

If the Trump fire is the director of the Bureau of Labor Statistics for telling the truth about the economy, was that accountability?

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Javier

Or just what happens when the numbers don't match the fairy tale and the king throws the calculator out the castle window? This is the state of the world. We're just here to ask. Is it time to protest? Or is it time to riot?

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Nelson

Somewhere I read. Somewhere I read. Of the freedom of press.

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Intro

Somewhere I read. That the greatness of America is the right to protest for a right.

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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intro

To catch on fire.

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Nelson

Welcome,

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Nelson

welcome, welcome to episode two of To Protest or To Riot podcast. I am your host, Nelson, joined by my co-host.

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Javier

How have you here?

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Nelson

Are you not doing the AK?

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Javier

You know what? All right. I'll be the voice.

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Javier

AKA the voice of reason, AKA the Republican.

[01:02:09:02 - 01:02:12:25]

Javier

You said white Republican, black Republican. Okay. White Republican would be crazy.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Welcome to To Protest or To Riot, the podcast where we take the facts and ask you, is it time to, you know, politely hold up your sign and stay behind the front lines or is it time to burn a couple of police cars? I politely burn a couple

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Nelson

of police cars while trying to get your message across.

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Javier

Excuse me, sir. Can I burn your car?

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Nelson

I didn't stop anybody from Tesla.

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Javier

Go ahead. I'm going to get my message.

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Nelson

Did you hear about that?

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Nelson

Sorry. Before we get into that, subscribe to YouTube. If you're listening to this audio only, subscribe to the YouTube channel. Leave a like and a comment because Javier is really chasing comments. He wants you to make a conversation.

[01:03:03:11 - 01:03:06:19]

Javier

He really does want y'all to fight in a conversation. I'm not a troll.

[01:03:07:28 - 01:03:08:23]

Nelson

He wants y'all to troll.

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Nelson

But yes, make sure you subscribe to YouTube channel. Leave a like and a comment on this episode. Just saying you at least made it through the cold open.

[01:03:18:02 - 01:03:35:22]

Nelson

And if you're listening to this on audio platforms, subscribe to the YouTube. If you're watching this on YouTube, subscribe to the audio platforms because the audio always drops before the video does. So in most podcasters, she's like, listen to shit on her way to work. So that first hour, you know, that's a drive to work. If you work somewhere good.

[01:03:35:22 - 01:03:42:24]

Nelson

But you know, you don't work somewhere good.

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Nelson

You're right. It's probably like 15 minutes.

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Javier

Oh, that's nasty. So just break it up into two days.

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Nelson

One on the way to work, one home from work. Right. The next day on the way to work.

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Javier

I'm kidding.

[01:03:54:16 - 01:03:54:25]

Nelson

I'm kidding.

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Nelson

And it proved me wrong to prove me wrong that you got money out the wazoo like a motherfucker.

[01:04:03:02 - 01:04:17:23]

Nelson

Subscribe to the picture for as low as one dollar. You can get the extended audio. Get the whole two hour conversations of us sitting on both the Democrats and the Republicans, specifically the Republicans, because right now they are fucking up the most and Democrats are quiet because they don't have any power.

[01:04:19:20 - 01:04:41:19]

Nelson

And to force those one dollar, you can subscribe to get the full extended audio. It's quite fat, but I want you to get the full extended video and any Patreon exclusives that we may drop in the future. We'll probably do like around nine, eight or nine. Really get our shit off and just do a Patreon exclusive. But for the extended episode, just subscribe to Patreon.com slash YCC Entertainment. What was I about to say?

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Nelson

I don't remember. I was just saying before I get into that.

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Javier

All I heard was, did you hear?

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Nelson

Oh, the Tesla. Oh, yeah. The crash that happened. There was a some Elon Musk is apparently being sued. Legal eagle. Illegal eagle. Make sure you check them out on YouTube. They're a really good channel. But they were talking about the crash where like basically Tesla has always been arguing that their cars are super like efficient and self-driving and all that stuff. Right. And a crash just recently happened where they're being sued for like two hundred and forty million dollars or something like that.

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Nelson

I'm spitballing. These aren't factual. But I know there was a car accident where a car crashed or a car test. The car was basically crashed. And so Tesla is being sued for it. It was killed.

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Javier

Which is a shame.

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Nelson

Somebody died.

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Javier

Yeah, which is unfortunate. But it's a shame because I'm one of those people that was like, man, I can't wait to get my car. I take a nap. You know,

[01:05:39:22 - 01:05:45:04]

Nelson

you know, the trick is you got to wear sunglasses. I learned that.

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Javier

You were right. You can't see your eyes. Right. Right. Right. Right. That's crazy. Could you imagine a car? Your cars are autopilot all the way to get to where we work. Right.

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Nelson

You know, that's crazy. Yeah.

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Nelson

And but the fact that your car is telling you a nigga, watch the road. I'm like, then what are you here for?

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Nelson

If I got to watch the road, what are you driving

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Nelson

the car for?

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Javier

Right. Right. Right. Right. I thought he was going to switch on and

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Nelson

off. I take an after that. Right. Right.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

Crazy work. You don't even in the past. At

[01:06:19:03 - 01:06:24:03]

Nelson

least give me another plus up for the HIV. Like, bro, what you doing?

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Nelson

Hey, I was talking to one of my homeboys about that dude that got it. Sister, the HIV has the heat monitors now because I finally got an easy pass. Right. I finally, finally fucking did it. How long you driving up that HIV that my whole fucking life.

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Javier

Using gym pop for all this time. Yeah.

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Nelson

But so. But here's the thing. I only use the HIV on every other Wednesday because I got it because now I've started going to the gym a lot more fluently. Right. So on Wednesday, I go to the gym, extend the amount of time it takes me to get back to the studio to set up for the long life. So it makes sense. Shout out long life vibes weekly open mic every Wednesday. We're going to break for September, but we'll be back October 1st.

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Javier

It makes sense when because he's like he's a bad out of hell when he's getting out of work. Right. So I'm like, oh, I'm like, you got to hit the what you got, you know, what you got going on. But I mean, you you you ride in Jim Pop.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

I'm in the traffic. That's what I mean. That's when I make my phone. It is Diabolica. Yeah. But yeah, that's usually when I'm sitting on the phone chilling and relaxing and stuff like that. So but and I never have to use it in the mornings. You don't get sleepy. What sometimes. Yeah. That's why it's more important that I go to the gym so that I'm awake when I drive home. OK. Because yeah, sometimes I do have to like or previously used to have the pop of energy drink my way home because I'm just like, I'm tired. This traffic. But I also have the assisted cruise control. OK. OK. So it's following behind whatever car is going on.

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Javier

That rare for working out for you.

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Nelson

Yeah. See, I mean, but like.

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Nelson

It's a serum. But I mean, kind of the same thing.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

I was sitting there thinking. I have four.

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Nelson

Also, my brother. They just dropped 20 episode 26. So make sure you tune into that. And shout out our single hosted podcast where I come out and just talk about the mistakes and complaints that we make.

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Nelson

But yeah.

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Nelson

So I finally got an easy pass. I only use it on Wednesday and I use it on Fridays. OK. And that's only going home because I never have to use it in the morning.

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Javier

Yeah, because you're paying for work if you do it that way. If you paid easy pass and you're going to work, you're paying for work. Yeah. You're paying to go to work. Yeah. I do it.

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Nelson

I know you do.

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Javier

It's crazy.

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Javier

Especially especially on days where like, you know.

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Javier

I don't necessarily need to be at work on time.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or if nobody pays on my phone, I don't call my two best friends. I shout out Q and shout out J. Carter. But I only talk to them on the phone when I'm heading home. OK. And if I don't talk to them on the phone, either I'm watching a really long form YouTube content or I'm talking to chat. You can see the entire way home.

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Javier

OK. So I feel like I need a monster drink or something because it's bad. Not anymore.

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Nelson

Usually I'll start to hit that around the the mixing bowl.

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Speaker 6

Yeah.

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Nelson

And then at that point, I'm just like, bro,

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Javier

I know exactly what you talk about. Exactly. It's just right there. Woodbridge.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. That's when I started to feel the most tired and the most tired. So my favorite exit.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Nelson

That is bad. It's because that that that lane change because we're here at Princeland County. It gets to three. Now, since they just started extending it out to four lanes. Yeah. But since at the AQUA Quand Lake, yeah, it goes down to three lanes because the merge and I hate that.

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Javier

Yeah. It needs to be four lanes. At least it's a dump freeze. Honestly, it should have been.

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Nelson

It should have been because, you know, the so this was a trick I learned, like maybe it's had been like four or five years ago. I learned this that the amount of lanes on the highway depends on the population in the city or the surrounding county. Right. Right. Right. So and Prince William County just started really like in the last several years where it started getting up there in the population where they require the four lanes because before that it's Fairfax County. Right. Fairfax County had four lanes for a reason. But because they include Springfield and all that kind of shit. But in Arlington had four lanes too. But then we got the Prince William County went down to three lanes and then we got the Stafford County went down to two lanes. Right. Right. Until they finally extended that out. Yeah. And then so yeah. Two lanes of Stafford is crazy. Two lanes of Stafford was crazy. I'm so glad they fixed that.

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Javier

Crazy. They fixed that like what, 10 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've been working on the easy pass extension since I was in high school. Yeah. Crazy work. Yeah.

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Nelson

Well, like that church on a Route 1, if you know, you know, you ever seen that you've been down Route 1 through Woodbridge. Okay. There's a church that's across from Wawa is a church on Route 1. They've been building that for almost 20 years.

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Javier

Like a it's like a supposed to be like a mega church. Yes. Yeah. They just behind in taxes.

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Nelson

They've been building it for 20 years. They started building that when I was in high school.

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Javier

Actually, it might have something done in one of the middle school. They got to have some type of privilege. 20 years. A 20 year project.

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Javier

They fit. They'll be finished with our security more for less. That's security. Get at work. Yeah. We finished with that before

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Speaker 8

they If

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Javier

you know, you know that. Yeah.

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Nelson

Before we start getting into topics, I did want to talk about.

[01:11:47:27 - 01:11:52:19]

Nelson

That's crazy. Just Lane Maxwell.

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Nelson

Apparently this is, I believe this is room. And I don't like talk about room mills podcast, but you know, for sidebar conversation, let's do it. Apparently just Lane Maxwell is on. She's got a deal set up where she's on release for work. Yeah. He's getting a work release, which is crazy. Jeffrey Epstein got the same thing where he was allowed to leave his prison. Yeah. For 12 hours a day. Yeah. And like unsupervised. Apparently she's got that same deal set up too. So the conspiracy is that this is all set up for her to get, you know, Uh, What? Yeah. In a weird way so that she can't say anything related to any of the She does know too much. Yeah. She doesn't. I mean, I don't know about too much.

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Javier

She knows enough. Yeah. She knows enough.

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Javier

I'm pretty sure she could pick out faces, right? Like if you imagine you being that man's assistant,

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Javier

You wouldn't for that long.

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Nelson

And you know, I'm not the Trump would be like, what's up nigga.

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Nelson

Oh my God.

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Javier

I'm not necessarily a star struck person, but you know, if you met, if you work for somebody, you know, powerful and important and they were around a lot of other people, powerful and important, you would know faces like you'd be at a point out. She at least has that. She can point Donald Trump out and Diddy and all of them, you know,

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Javier

and, and, and, and bill to the fingers up there, you know, what bill on the list.

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Nelson

Yeah. Bill Clinton flew. Apparently the rumor was he flew 27 times, but it wasn't even that it was less than 27 times. But I think his last meeting with Jeffrey Epstein was in 2003. Yeah. Actually you don't have to fact check me. I'm 100% sure about that. That his last meeting with Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein brought a painting of bill Clinton in a dress sitting in a chair or something like that. And that's what did it. Jeff, Jeffrey Epstein bought the picture and like jokingly like invited bill Clinton over so you show him the picture because it was like, you know, like a meme kind of joke.

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Javier

They're weird.

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Nelson

Yeah. They are weird.

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Javier

They are weird. Rich white people with my weird. My God. Well, listen, uh, Bill, you know, you like it. I love it. He had a good time. Didn't he? He probably did. That's, that's, that's not all that matters. That should have never happened.

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Nelson

I mean, if you ask the, the, the, the, the typical magga, they think that the, the, the Clintons are the evil family of America.

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Javier

That's what they keep waiting to see.

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Nelson

And then they're our heritage foundation.

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Nelson

Yeah. That's what the Clinton family is to the maggots. Yeah. The heritage foundation to everybody else.

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Javier

The, the, the democratic establishment. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. The donor class.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not true.

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Nelson

It's not.

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Nelson

There was only. enshr natural and press philosophy because it is... It is so damn powerful. Hillary won the presidency. Wait.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

HLARABOY. Yeah. Um, awesome. You're watching this on video. I finally did the opening theaaa or the intro that I wanted to do, the video intro and I did it. ThisER how petty I am. Can you tell me that by Am like, I'm the biggest hater can she'llays Rocky got nothing on me? I'm the biggest hater. Okay.

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Nelson

I added that scene from the, or that clip from January 6th of the Proud Boys breaking in the windows. And then that first man, Dominic, whatever his name was, jumping through the window. And then like letting everybody else in and like the traffic finally starting to go throughout the Capitol. And, cause everybody always makes that argument. Well, the first people that got into, or the police officers were letting people into the Capitol. Yeah, but the first people that broke into the Capitol were Proud Boys.

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Javier

You should have showed the clip with the Air Force veteran.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Great, I'm sorry. That's wild.

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Javier

Cause when I saw that documentary.

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Nelson

We're here at the Two Protests at the Ryan Podcast.

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Javier

Do not condone captain veterans. Not at all, not at all. But that was a crazy scene. Thanks for the culture, isn't it? Sorry, I had to throw a cancel button.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

It's your only recipe to cancel. Oh, good.

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Javier

I can't get canceled under YCC. No, no, no, not at all, not at all.

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Nelson

But, nah, I mean, I put enough introspective clips in there, but I had to include that because anytime somebody makes the argument, oh, they were just letting the police officers in, I'd be like, we go watch Two Protests at the Ryan intro.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Just to throw that out there. They try to rewrite the reality all the time. All the time. But we know what was happening. Mm-hmm.

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Javier

That was a riot. That was a riot. You know, the same thing you said we were doing in Baltimore and all of these places.

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Nelson

No, some of those were riots. Yeah, well, I mean.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

No, we're gonna put the accountability in this. This is why we're a fair podcast. Because we're gonna hold accountable. Summer of Love was a lot of riots. But who did Summer of Love happen under?

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Javier

We ain't going to the Capitol, I can tell you that. Yeah, we ain't going to the Capitol.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Boy, that would've been a slaughter. Slaughterhouse, no doubt.

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Nelson

The National Guard would've actually showed up.

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Javier

Oh, yeah.

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Intro

They're doing that one.

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Javier

Yeah, it would've been some of us in uniform probably getting capped too. That part. Oh, I thought you was, nah.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Yeah, so shout out to just Lane Maxwell for getting the work release. And yeah,

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Nelson

shout out to the new intro.

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Javier

Yeah, what you gonna do for your 12 hours?

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Javier

Good question.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

That's a good question. I've never been to jail, but I guess anything.

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Nelson

You wanna get to the summit first, you wanna get into the redistricting.

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Nelson

Which one? The summit or the redistricting? Let's do the redistricting. Redistricting. Yeah. Redistricting. Yeah. Redistricting. That word is the last word.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

So Texas said once every 10 years, ain't enough Republicans hit the remix button mid-decade, redrawing maps to steal five extra house seats before 2026. Democrats bounced out of the state like runaway bridges, leaving the house emptier than a group project without the smart kid. The Senate shrugged and passed the maps away. Protests blew up in Austin. Obama dusted off his preacher voice and Newsom called,

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Newsom out in California threatened to redraw his own lines like it's gang retaliation. Protests a riot. When politicians bend the borders to bend the people, how mad should we be?

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Javier

This is a riot.

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Javier

And I'm only saying this is because-- That was, I didn't expect you to get there. You do not wanna go down this direction. Yeah.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

And a sitting United States president as a sitting governor of a major state to find me five seats. Yeah. Find me seats. That's crazy.

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Nelson

Well, I mean, it's not. It's crazy, but it's not surprising because find me this was his saying when the election was stolen.

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Javier

You're not even doing this within the cycle of the census though, right?

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Nelson

Yeah. Because the census-- I air quoted cycle. I mean, election was stolen for the audio only listeners. I did air quote that. Cause I don't think the election was stolen.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Why?

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Fuck,

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Nelson

what was I about to say?

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(Keyboard Clicking)

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Nelson

No, the president saying find me this cause that's what he was like, find me these 10,000 votes. Find me this for during when he lost the election.

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Speaker 6

Right.

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Nelson

So that doesn't surprise me,

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Javier

but it is crazy. It's not surprising, but the,

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Javier

you don't want, it's just, we don't wanna go down this route. Yeah, you don't wanna do that. Because here's the after effect, right? So now, you know, you got the two blue states, California, New York being like, hey, Governor Cathy Hoku already said of New York, I'm tired of operating with one hand tied behind my back.

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Javier

Now, and when you go over to Gavin Newsom in California, it's like, he can find you more than five seats.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

You mean the most populous state in the union.

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Javier

Is it going to Trump? Pun intended. Your little five seats that you can find in Texas.

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Javier

See, here's the thing, I'm talking with my wife about this, about how really that walk out in Texas, right?

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Javier

Really, it was supposed to buy them more time, because the governor can call them back into session every single month if he wants to, right? But it was to buy them more time, because you think that those maps aren't gonna be challenged in court? And then how long is it gonna take for them to come down with a decision? Let's say if it's going through the process, going up through the Supreme Court before the election. So you could be in a situation where you still have to go with the same maps,

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Javier

because you didn't get it approved in time.

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Nelson

Yeah. And I mean, in a game, devil's advocacy for Donald Trump,

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Nelson

for it's, you start there. Because everything that, this is what I keep telling people about a lot of what Trump is doing this first year. It's all testing the waters. We'll get into the DC takeover later on, but the immigration process was a stepping stone for that. This redistricting, redistricting, redistricting. That's a nasty word. Yeah, it is a word. The movement of all these people in Texas, it's like, that's a starting, because Texas is a safe haven for Republicans. It's a safe state for a Republican president to do certain things and stuff like that. So him starting there is just the first steps to what's about to go on and all these other red states that are throughout the country. Now in the shifty red states, the swing states that voted there obviously don't count. But you can start with all those other neighboring red states that are around it. So yeah, and that's what I keep saying. It's always the first step, this whole year. It's always been first step to this.

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Javier

And how is it not a domino effect for all the blue states to be on the same wave? And what it does is makes both political parties even more powerful.

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Nelson

Yeah, and yeah, all you have to do is put the one step, because obviously I'm pretty sure we're all under the agreement here. We are not getting another, if we get another Republican president, we,

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Nelson

that just shows first of all, the media has controlled, Fox News has been killing it. We need another Republican president. But where we are right now, just watching Trump in his first year, it's not about to happen. There's no shot there's gonna be a Republican president in the office, because now a Democrat has to do what they always have to do, when the Republican comes in, Bush, Trump, and a Democrat has to come and clean it up. Obama, Biden.

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Speaker 6

Right, right.

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Nelson

So it's always been that. Bush put us in the housing crisis, Obama had to clean it up. We had a flourishing fucking market. Then Trump became president and put us in the COVID pandemic and Biden had to clean it up. Then economy got great again.

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Speaker 6

Yeah.

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Nelson

So now we're in the Trump era and we gotta see what Pete, Blue Judge or AOC is gonna do.

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Javier

In baseball, Democrats bat cleanup.

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Javier

Yeah. They're the closer. Yeah.

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Nelson

And then what they'll do is blame, people don't understand how the chain of events happen in politics. So they don't understand like when certain things happen, it's because of the previous president's policy.

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Speaker 6

Right, right.

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Nelson

And then like Trump was headed a very good economy. Trump had to just not fuck up the economy. But then COVID happened. And it was like, he didn't know what to do during it. So then Biden had to come and clean it up. Then we had the infrastructure bill, the chips act, all those things, the rescue America plan, like all of those came in and started cleaning up. We can talk about how high inflation was during Biden, but it was at what, 9%? But the motherfucker brought it back down to 3%.

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Javier

And inflation is natural. Yes.

[01:24:14:05 - 01:24:15:02]

Nelson

Especially during a pandemic,

[01:24:15:02 - 01:24:39:20]

Javier

a worldwide pandemic. Right, I'm actually worried less about inflation a lot of times and why you all allow businesses to take the profits from high inflation, but not allow them to raise wages to match inflation. That is a mystery to me. It's really about wages. And you got people like our governor, what is she, is she our Lieutenant Governor?

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Javier

What's her name? The sales,

[01:24:44:05 - 01:24:49:15]

Javier

whatever her name is. Who you talking about? The black woman running for Lieutenant Governor.

[01:24:49:15 - 01:24:50:27]

Nelson

Oh, no idea.

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Javier

For Governor, no, she's running for Governor, excuse me. Against Abigail Spanberger. But anyways,

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Javier

I saw a commercial with her pretty much saying, she was pretty much saying that raising the minimum wage is hurtful, harmful.

[01:25:13:00 - 01:25:14:17]

Javier

I'm like to who? They're right.

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Nelson

Especially with tariffs being a thing and the businesses.

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Nelson

Is she replacing Abigail Spanberger or?

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Javier

No, she's running against her. Oh, okay. But I'm not mistaken. She's already the Lieutenant Governor though.

[01:25:36:20 - 01:25:37:17]

Nelson

Winsome Earl Sears?

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Nelson

Yeah,

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Nelson

she's a Republican nominee for Governor.

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Javier

She sounds like a lower, is she, she's a cool.

[01:25:51:01 - 01:25:54:13]

Javier

Jesus. Lower KC, I guess, right?

[01:25:55:14 - 01:25:56:02]

Javier

What is Candace Owens?

[01:25:57:07 - 01:25:57:18]

Javier

Lower KC.

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Nelson

Oh, you're better than me.

[01:25:59:07 - 01:26:05:01]

Javier

And then your boy from Supreme Court, Thomas,

[01:26:06:09 - 01:26:13:08]

Javier

Justice Thomas. Taffetto? Oh, he's the leader of the cool. What's the guy, my boy? I hate her.

[01:26:13:08 - 01:26:15:13]

Nelson

What, what? I hate Clarence Thomas.

[01:26:16:15 - 01:26:22:25]

Nelson

Did you meet him the other day? That's crazy, don't say that. He's kidding guys, he's kidding. Don't you put that out there.

[01:26:22:25 - 01:26:24:14]

Nelson

He's kidding, okay?

[01:26:24:14 - 01:26:25:24]

Javier

Yeah, no.

[01:26:25:24 - 01:26:26:15]

Nelson

No, I've never met Clarence Thomas.

[01:26:26:15 - 01:26:48:08]

Javier

Yeah, no, but he, she's pretty much, you know, she's bringing all the bell whistles that they like, you know, no minimum wage and all. You should understand that that directly affects you. Inflation's high, wages are still stagnant. What do you think is gonna happen? People can't afford to buy in this market. That's how it works.

[01:26:48:08 - 01:27:17:08]

Nelson

But obviously, but lo and behold, this is one thing people don't understand about like, senators and representatives and stuff like that. The money is not in running the state, really. Those people are not making that much fucking money. You could pay $5,000 and have a sit down with any senator in the United States. Yeah. A lot of the money they make is back end money. Yeah. Stuff like that. I'm almost behind the rule that like, president shouldn't be, or not president, government officials shouldn't be able to make

[01:27:19:00 - 01:27:21:11]

Nelson

sidebar money while they are in positions of power.

[01:27:21:11 - 01:27:21:18]

Javier

Yeah.

[01:27:21:18 - 01:27:26:11]

Nelson

Like our current president who's making all this money off of cryptocurrency.

[01:27:26:11 - 01:27:38:15]

Javier

Which is not the precedent, actually. A lot of them put their investments in the blind trust, or they pretty much hire somebody else to manage all that money. To manage your money, yeah.

[01:27:38:15 - 01:27:54:01]

Nelson

So I am slowly creeping up that ideology. But yeah, but as far as like, how much government officials make, they don't make surprisingly that much money just being a government official. What is it? That grand can get you a seat at the table easily.

[01:27:54:01 - 01:27:55:08]

Javier

On the federal level,

[01:27:56:10 - 01:28:06:00]

Javier

they can afford to live in this economy. Yeah. Because they're in charge of raising, making their own pay raises. Yeah. Crazy, right? Right. Crazy, right? Yeah.

[01:28:07:07 - 01:28:17:13]

Nelson

And maybe, you know, one of the defense they be coming up is Trump is giving up his salary, donating his salary. It's like, bro, he only makes 400K being president.

[01:28:18:18 - 01:28:27:19]

Nelson

Okay, like what do we say? He makes 400K a year being president. Of course he's donating. He's making millions upon millions off of cryptocurrencies, suing people and all this other shit.

[01:28:27:19 - 01:28:31:28]

Javier

What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. Honestly though, he probably does need that 400,000.

[01:28:31:28 - 01:28:34:12]

(Both Laughing)

[01:28:34:12 - 01:28:37:16]

Javier

He definitely needs that 400,000. Yeah.

[01:28:38:16 - 01:28:42:09]

Javier

Yeah, he needs it. Cause I would say,

[01:28:44:00 - 01:28:50:19]

Javier

he's not as wealthy as you guys think he is. No, no, no, no, not at all. All of the moves, he's playing everything very, he's playing his cards close to the chest.

[01:28:50:19 - 01:29:01:16]

Nelson

Yeah, and then also a lot of that is just running off the fact that he's the president. That's why he's able to pull off a lot of what he's pulling off. Yeah. But I keep trying to say this word and it's fucking me up, redistricting.

[01:29:01:16 - 01:29:03:19]

Javier

That was good on the first one.

[01:29:03:19 - 01:29:05:13]

(Both Laughing)

[01:29:05:13 - 01:29:06:04]

Nelson

Fuck this guy.

[01:29:08:19 - 01:29:09:25]

Nelson

But as far as the redistricting,

[01:29:11:13 - 01:29:13:17]

Nelson

redistricting, redistricting.

[01:29:14:29 - 01:29:19:14]

Nelson

Yeah, no, it's a riot for me too. Because of what it leads to. Yeah. It's just the first step for me.

[01:29:19:14 - 01:29:24:07]

Javier

You just, cause think about it, it's always gonna be your turn next, right? Yep.

[01:29:25:19 - 01:29:26:10]

Javier

Democrats start doing this.

[01:29:26:10 - 01:29:28:05]

Nelson

And you're gonna hate when Democrats start doing it.

[01:29:28:05 - 01:30:08:24]

Javier

You don't want it. And it's crazy cause our state, California, which I didn't know until this was an issue, had went to a system to pretty much set up a commission to draw lines. And that's, it's not perfect, but that's kind of the direction that we wanna go into instead of just leaving it into whoever's in charge, at the time it gets to draw the lines every 10 years. You don't wanna be there, right? Elections start only mattering every 10 years, I guess. But I don't know, there's nothing saying that you can't draw lines before the 10 years as we're seeing right now, right? So thank you, Texas, for breaking that precedent.

[01:30:10:18 - 01:30:14:06]

Nelson

There's a couple other states that might start doing that shit too. And Newsom has already told you.

[01:30:14:06 - 01:30:17:19]

Javier

I got you, bro. We know Abbott is a bootlicker.

[01:30:19:07 - 01:30:23:19]

Javier

So whatever Trump needs, he will be there to provide.

[01:30:24:19 - 01:30:28:17]

Nelson

Absolutely. What's my girl's name from Texas? Cause she ain't having none of that shit. Crockett?

[01:30:28:17 - 01:30:36:02]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She ain't having none of that shit. Yeah, well it affects what- Jasmine Crockett, that's what it is. It's gonna affect whether or not she could come back to Congress, right? Yup.

[01:30:36:02 - 01:30:56:20]

Nelson

Cause you know- I've been watching her speak out on it too. Oh, and shout out Brian Tyler Cohen, one of the biggest left-leaning political commentators on YouTube. But he has sit downs with her and she be like, these motherfuckers are retarded.

[01:30:56:20 - 01:30:57:04]

Javier

Yeah.

[01:30:57:04 - 01:30:58:04]

(Laughing)

[01:30:58:04 - 01:30:59:20]

Nelson

They can get away with this shit.

[01:30:59:20 - 01:31:06:06]

Javier

But it's gonna get challenged. You know that, right? They know that, right?

[01:31:07:07 - 01:31:30:17]

Nelson

Seeing what, all you're doing is testing the waters to see what you can get away with. Yeah, that's true. Again, the DC takeover started with immigration when he said, I'm not against the porting, I'm not against the porting American citizens. And that DC takeover happened, the first thing that went through my head was, go buy blacks, but we're gonna cross that bridge when we get to it. We're gonna talk about that later.

[01:31:31:26 - 01:31:32:00]

(Laughing)

[01:31:32:00 - 01:31:34:19]

Nelson

So yeah, it's a riot for me for the redistricting.

[01:31:35:22 - 01:31:36:00]

Javier

Absolutely.

[01:31:36:00 - 01:31:46:10]

Nelson

Whatever that word is. We're calling that a riot. Yeah, that's a riot. And y'all motherfuckers are gonna see what that's gonna lead to if they get away with this. If it gets stopped, okay, cool, we're good.

[01:31:46:10 - 01:32:01:00]

Javier

You know what's crazy? Old wooden tooth George Washington, one draw against- Wooden tooth is crazy. He warned y'all against political parties. He warned you all. And he was supposed to be your savior, right? But you didn't listen to him. He also predicted when the Civil War was gonna happen.

[01:32:01:00 - 01:32:05:25]

Nelson

I'm gonna be honest, I don't remember anything that George Washington wanted outside of what the Hamilton play showed me.

[01:32:07:21 - 01:32:08:18]

Javier

Well, he had wooden teeth.

[01:32:09:19 - 01:32:09:20]

(Laughing)

[01:32:11:12 - 01:32:15:01]

Nelson

Oh, he could sing his ass off. So that's all I know

[01:32:15:01 - 01:32:17:10]

Javier

about George Washington, okay? Yeah, he's a sanger.

[01:32:20:13 - 01:32:20:27]

(Laughing)

[01:32:23:05 - 01:32:27:07]

Nelson

Shout out to the founding fathers, cause they, well, no, no, not shout out.

[01:32:27:07 - 01:32:28:17]

Nelson

You wanna shout that out? No, I don't.

[01:32:28:17 - 01:32:32:08]

Nelson

Okay, okay. So that said it, it started the process. It's on my head.

[01:32:32:08 - 01:32:36:00]

Javier

Shout out to Alexander Hamilton. Shout out Alexander Hamilton. Oh, my boy.

[01:32:37:08 - 01:32:37:08]

(Laughing)

[01:32:38:28 - 01:32:41:04]

Nelson

So yeah, that's a riot from both of us for that.

[01:32:44:10 - 01:32:49:02]

Nelson

Meanwhile, in Alaska, Trump rolled out the red carpet from Putin like it was prom night.

[01:32:50:05 - 01:33:10:07]

Nelson

No ceasefire, no sanctions, no real deal. Just Putin grinning on the world stage like Trump, while Trump looked tired and repeated Kremlin talking points. Ukraine's still bleeding, and we're out here hosting the dictator's comeback tour. Protests a riot. When America sets the table for autocrats and hands them the silverware, how mad should we be about footing the bill?

[01:33:13:01 - 01:33:18:04]

Javier

I'm gonna say riot on this one. No, no, no, excuse me. I'm gonna say protest on this one.

[01:33:18:04 - 01:33:32:04]

Nelson

Yeah, I would've gave it a protest because I give it a protest simply off the strength of, this is like the only difference between what's been happening before and what happened now is they still didn't come to an agreement,

[01:33:33:11 - 01:33:34:27]

Nelson

but now it was televised.

[01:33:34:27 - 01:33:50:02]

Javier

Also, I'm confident that whoever the next administration is, is going to replenish the State Department and rely on the way we did foreign policy before, and not necessarily the,

[01:33:51:04 - 01:34:10:06]

Javier

I would say the status quo of it, but I would say the procedure. You rely on experts to go into these negotiations, but when you fire them all, right? Now you're just going into a, oh, and let's, I'ma meet this person, but let's see what happens.

[01:34:11:10 - 01:34:29:10]

Javier

When y'all criticizing Obama about possibly, which he never did, go into negotiation with world leaders that we don't have diplomatic relations with without preconditions, that's exactly what Donald Trump is doing, is going into this without preconditions, right?

[01:34:30:26 - 01:34:34:20]

Javier

He has no experts. He's just going to this fly by world.

[01:34:34:20 - 01:34:35:26]

Nelson

Marco Rubio's over there.

[01:34:36:27 - 01:34:41:19]

Javier

Marco Rubio's stretched thin. Your boy is stretched thin. Your boy is stretched thin.

[01:34:41:19 - 01:34:42:22]

Intro

Marco Rubio's not my boy, okay.

[01:34:44:18 - 01:34:44:19]

(Laughing)

[01:34:44:19 - 01:34:48:07]

Nelson

But he is stretched thin. He's not getting the edit he wants.

[01:34:49:08 - 01:34:50:07]

Javier

He's no longer your boy.

[01:34:51:10 - 01:34:51:20]

Nelson

True.

[01:34:52:26 - 01:34:54:06]

Javier

Yeah, that's a damn shame.

[01:34:54:06 - 01:34:58:07]

Nelson

Hey man, the competition was scarce, okay? I guess.

[01:34:59:24 - 01:34:59:24]

(Laughing)

[01:34:59:24 - 01:35:00:09]

Nelson

I guess.

[01:35:01:20 - 01:35:03:06]

Nelson

Yeah, now it's the,

[01:35:04:09 - 01:35:08:10]

Nelson

again, you're kind of making, like there's a reason why Russia is not a part of NATO.

[01:35:08:10 - 01:35:09:06]

Speaker 6

Right, right.

[01:35:09:06 - 01:35:30:11]

Nelson

And when, now what you've done, again, like you would sit there and talk about we made a deal with, or not make a deal, but we talked to Russia and blah, blah, blah. And then the next day, Russia just starts bombing Ukraine again, and then Trump is truthing out, oh, why isn't Putin listening to me? He said he was going to stop and all this. And you sound like a fucking petulant child. Truth, stop. Yes.

[01:35:30:11 - 01:35:31:09]

(Laughing)

[01:35:32:10 - 01:35:46:04]

Nelson

Especially a child on Truth Social. And then now what you've done is you've televised that you've literally laid out this red carpet for him, and you've made him like, oh, this guy is one of the world leaders right here.

[01:35:46:04 - 01:35:47:25]

Javier

Yeah, you legitimize him.

[01:35:47:25 - 01:35:48:25]

Nelson

Yes. Yeah.

[01:35:50:25 - 01:36:15:01]

Nelson

Just to end up coming to nothing. No ceasefire. Yeah. No agreement. Mr. Make a deal, still can't make a deal. Yeah. And here we are on this, now we know this is gonna happen again, and this is gonna keep being a reoccurring thing. I keep telling everybody, y'all keep fucking around and y'all gonna find out, in about four years, we're gonna be high five in Russia while we go to war with them against Ukraine.

[01:36:15:01 - 01:36:18:22]

Javier

Putin is exactly in this position that he wants to be in right now.

[01:36:18:22 - 01:36:18:28]

Nelson

100%.

[01:36:18:28 - 01:36:26:21]

Javier

Putin is definitely in the end that he wants to be in. Who did both sides bring? What type of experts did they bring? What type of delegation did they bring?

[01:36:28:13 - 01:36:42:19]

Javier

Economic advisors, an economic delegation, right? Putin brought his finance minister, right? Trump brought his economic team, right? So they can what? Make a raw minerals deal,

[01:36:43:28 - 01:36:48:13]

Javier

right? Putin to give them, it's crazy, and then America will be able to take,

[01:36:50:06 - 01:36:56:22]

Javier

I guess, stake like they're in the company, ownership, take a profit or whatever. When the federal government doesn't need to make a profit, right?

[01:36:57:22 - 01:36:59:28]

Javier

What kind of deal is this really?

[01:36:59:28 - 01:37:01:15]

Nelson

You know what's funny?

[01:37:03:10 - 01:37:06:24]

Nelson

How do you think the copious is gonna be if,

[01:37:08:04 - 01:37:24:18]

Nelson

I say this and a lot of my banter and hyperbolic statements come from a sense of truth, but if we are teaming up with Russia to go to war with, because the MAGA side is blaming Ukraine for this war.

[01:37:24:18 - 01:37:25:06]

Speaker 6

Right, right.

[01:37:25:06 - 01:37:29:07]

Nelson

I couldn't put it past them to end up in this war against Ukraine.

[01:37:30:20 - 01:37:49:03]

Nelson

How do you think the MAGA side will change that narrative and be like, well, we need to go to war against them because they just been siphoning so much money and all of this. Like how many people do you think would jump ship as opposed to follow the MAGA chips?

[01:37:49:03 - 01:37:52:16]

Javier

Well, to be honest, honestly, my question is were they ever on board?

[01:37:54:02 - 01:38:54:05]

Javier

The only people in the Republican party that seems to turn or be upset by this move, right, are Republicans from the past, like Mitt Romney's or the establishment Republicans, Republicans who have created and helped create and understand how foreign policy has worked in this century, right? And the latter part of the last century, right? They're against it because they had a plan. I don't necessarily say that I agree with the direction they wanted to go in foreign policy, but this type of foreign policy directly reflects imperialism. Being able to just care about yourself, care about your own, Trump doesn't, he already told you, he would rather be doing something else than worrying about make, brokering a deal between Ukraine. He said he'd rather be doing something, the sitting president of the United States.

[01:38:54:05 - 01:39:05:20]

Nelson

Now what does that tell you? He doesn't care. And I don't understand how you people think we can still be the front runner of the world, be the number one world stage advocate

[01:39:06:23 - 01:39:09:11]

Nelson

for a country that doesn't give a fuck about any other country in this world.

[01:39:09:11 - 01:39:11:05]

Javier

They want the status, not the responsibility.

[01:39:11:05 - 01:39:11:29]

Nelson

Yeah!

[01:39:11:29 - 01:39:14:02]

Javier

Yeah, that's exactly what they want.

[01:39:14:02 - 01:39:15:13]

Nelson

I know supervisors like you, it doesn't work.

[01:39:15:13 - 01:39:16:27]

(Laughing)

[01:39:18:11 - 01:39:21:11]

Nelson

I know people that are supervisors like that, it does not fucking work.

[01:39:21:11 - 01:39:24:09]

Javier

You ain't never said nothing more true than that.

[01:39:24:09 - 01:39:25:13]

Nelson

My God, yes.

[01:39:25:13 - 01:39:29:19]

Nelson

It doesn't fucking work. You can't keep that status and not have the responsibility.

[01:39:29:19 - 01:39:55:27]

Javier

It just doesn't work. Yeah, because you have a responsibility that's being neglected on a scale that other countries rely on this. We rely on this. You being able to go to work, raise a family, complain about first world problems in this country is that you know they're most likely in your life that there won't be a war on our shores, right?

[01:39:57:17 - 01:40:05:04]

Javier

We fight everything across the sea. Yeah, somebody else's land. Yes, because you imagine tanks coming down flat bush aft,

[01:40:06:24 - 01:40:08:24]

Nelson

seriously. What is that movie with Chris Hemsworth?

[01:40:08:24 - 01:40:12:04]

Javier

Oh, "The Red Something."

[01:40:13:04 - 01:40:15:02]

Nelson

Yes, that movie, I can't remember what it was, "Red Dawn."

[01:40:15:02 - 01:40:16:05]

Javier

"Red Dawn," yep.

[01:40:16:05 - 01:40:20:06]

Nelson

It's all fun and games until they hit that Washington State border.

[01:40:21:19 - 01:40:23:24]

Nelson

Yeah, yeah, they got-- That's your ass, Mr. Postman.

[01:40:23:24 - 01:40:28:13]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, you don't want to see him at Charlottesville, do you? Okay, okay.

[01:40:30:05 - 01:40:43:20]

Nelson

But this is gonna protest because you are legitimizing the dictator that Putin is. But I don't see this going, I mean, like I said, this is just a repeat. The only difference is you televised it.

[01:40:43:20 - 01:40:47:09]

Javier

And the other party is not involved in the negotiations? You're right.

[01:40:47:09 - 01:41:07:22]

Nelson

What does that look like? I don't understand. Maybe I'm fucking tripping and you maggots can let me know. Maybe fucking Zelensky's phone is on Do Not Disturb mode every time we have these fucking, these meetings. But I don't understand how you're making a war with two countries that are warring, or you're trying to come to a ceasefire with two countries that are warring each other and you keep talking to them independently.

[01:41:07:22 - 01:41:12:26]

Javier

He's currently losing now, right? Since Donald Trump came into office. He's currently losing.

[01:41:14:08 - 01:41:28:19]

Javier

He most certainly wants to make a deal. What are we talking about here? And was even flirting with the idea of a land swap, right? Or a situation where the land already occupied

[01:41:30:17 - 01:41:33:04]

Javier

can be ceded back at a later time, right?

[01:41:34:07 - 01:41:50:27]

Javier

That's kind of where we are right now. So I just, I really don't know how you can have a conversation without the other agrees party a part of the conversation. That's the crazy part to me. He's watching the negotiation, right?

[01:41:52:07 - 01:41:56:19]

Javier

He's watching it. I need somebody to really like understand.

[01:41:56:19 - 01:42:01:06]

Nelson

When you say it like that, yeah, he literally is like, what the fuck at

[01:42:01:06 - 01:42:01:28]

Javier

the TV?

[01:42:01:28 - 01:42:02:19]

Nelson

Yeah, yeah.

[01:42:02:19 - 01:42:13:20]

Javier

He's not cheering. I can tell you that. He's not cheering. That's for sure. Yep. Yeah, you're a leader. This is happening to you. This is Russia, Ukraine, America in the middle.

[01:42:15:01 - 01:42:26:00]

Javier

You get to watch on TV. You get to watch Putin get into Donald Trump's limousine and go off and have little sweet nothings.

[01:42:27:29 - 01:42:31:05]

Nelson

Russia is about to be our best friend. Fuck around and find out. They're about to be our best friend.

[01:42:31:05 - 01:42:32:15]

Speaker 8

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:42:32:15 - 01:42:34:17]

Nelson

Yeah, this is a conspiracy.

[01:42:35:25 - 01:42:36:29]

Nelson

This is just watching and waiting.

[01:42:36:29 - 01:42:46:05]

Javier

Those of you who have it, go ahead and start planning out buying property and vacation houses in Russia. Go ahead.

[01:42:47:08 - 01:42:53:15]

Javier

Go ahead and be my guest. I know you, there's nothing, you wanna have a house in Stauff and Grock.

[01:42:55:11 - 01:42:57:09]

Nelson

What

[01:42:57:09 - 01:43:03:24]

Nelson

did Sarah Palin say? I can see Russia from my house. You motherfuckers really about to be able to see Russia.

[01:43:03:24 - 01:43:05:18]

Javier

She about to have real estate out there.

[01:43:06:26 - 01:43:08:26]

Nelson

She's about to see her house in Russia.

[01:43:08:26 - 01:43:16:15]

Javier

Yeah, don't worry. It's gonna be somebody in the military that you have a conversation with. And yeah, you know, we just got a little Airbnb going on out there.

[01:43:17:19 - 01:43:19:22]

Nelson

Might make that the episode name. I see my house in Russia.

[01:43:21:08 - 01:43:25:01]

Javier

You know, you got this new ocean for a property over in Chernobyl.

[01:43:26:25 - 01:43:29:01]

Nelson

Now you don't have to fly to Dubai. You can just walk. You're right.

[01:43:31:02 - 01:43:34:16]

Javier

These people, man. That's crazy. Yeah, but listen,

[01:43:35:25 - 01:43:46:00]

Javier

and all due deference to all countries who their number one goal is their own sovereignty and the greatness of their own country. You're in Russia.

[01:43:46:00 - 01:43:47:13]

Nelson

Shout out to Russia for that.

[01:43:47:13 - 01:43:56:11]

Javier

You are just putting yourself out there. We was high mind on that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just, you winning out here. Yeah, you are Russia.

[01:43:57:19 - 01:44:01:25]

Javier

You winning. This man has been in power. He's seen like four, he's seen four presidents.

[01:44:01:25 - 01:44:03:20]

(Laughing)

[01:44:03:20 - 01:44:23:15]

Javier

He played the law game. He played the law game because he can. He can. And you know, maybe that's the type of America that this Maga cult wants to go to is, yeah. They want to go to Russia. Russia is paradise for them. That's crazy. 90% approval rate.

[01:44:23:15 - 01:44:26:22]

Nelson

I get what you're saying, but you saying it out loud sounds fucking wild.

[01:44:27:24 - 01:44:28:11]

Nelson

Like, yeah.

[01:44:30:13 - 01:44:32:10]

Javier

But it's still a protest. It's still a protest though.

[01:44:32:10 - 01:44:33:04]

(Laughing)

[01:44:33:04 - 01:44:34:13]

Nelson

We didn't say a lot about that.

[01:44:34:13 - 01:44:36:01]

Javier

No, yeah, no, it's still a protest.

[01:44:36:01 - 01:44:37:15]

(Laughing)

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Nelson

Before we get into this topic, cause I didn't want to say it for the Patreon.

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Nelson

Did you hear about Obama? What he said about the ketchup thing?

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Nelson

That you should not be allowed to eat ketchup after, or you should not consume ketchup after like eight years old? No, no. Man, that had the Republicans and spiral effect. Yeah. He was just saying it so casually. Like he was on a podcast and he said like, "Look, after eight years old, you should not be eating ketchup anymore. Like it should just not be allowed."

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Javier

Take my black card, but I don't eat ketchup anyway.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

I don't like ketchup. Who does?

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Javier

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.

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Nelson

And as a DC baby, there's mumbo sauce. Yeah.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

I eat things with ketchup kind of in it, kind of. Maybe a burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in barbecue sauce, right? Pretty much. Technically. Yeah. The barbecue sauce is different. And I don't really eat barbecue sauce like that. And it depends where I go. I don't know. I'm a dry rope guy.

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Nelson

If I go to five guys, I'm not asking to put ketchup on my burger. Why would you do that?

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

But I am asking to put barbecue sauce on my burger. Okay, okay. Yeah. There's none of the ketchup.

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Nelson

I don't even eat-- Grow up. I eat McDonald's fries or some sour sauce. I eat ketchup.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Ketchup on your fries. The Obama stand speaks.

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Javier

The Obama stand speaks. Obama said grow up.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Eight years old is a rat.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Put that shit on the shelf. No ask for it no more, please God. Get with the times man. God, but you better put some vinegar in on that shit or something.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Put it away. No more ketchup, okay? Obama said no more ketchup.

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Nelson

Obama said grow up is crazy. That is it.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Yeah, what other hot topics that I wanna talk about before we, say bye to these free niggas, I'm gonna let them get a little bit more of their time.

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Nelson

There's so much just fucking going on. About the alien shit. Oh, go ahead. Oh. Cause you said aliens are black.

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Nelson

And I was like, I'm gonna just let him go into his bag like that. Yeah, no.

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Nelson

Or aliens being black.

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Javier

Yeah, something like that. Like they were pretty much saying that, first off, no reputable scientists substantiates any of these claims, right? Let me just start by saying this, but basically through the social media lens, pretty much they were saying that something about black people coming back in, are aliens and they're coming back in November or something like that, which is crazy. Cause you know, we don't like the cold like that. So I'm like, damn, will you come back in November?

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Nelson

Okay, so, oof.

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Nelson

I'm gonna read the AI overview.

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Nelson

The assertion that black people are aliens is a misconception. Black people are human beings with diverse backgrounds and cultures. The comparison of black people to aliens or other marginalized groups to fictionalized beings is a flawed analogy that ignores the facts that space aliens are not real. This analogy is sometimes used to create a sense of otherness or dehumanize certain groups. The claim that NASA stated aliens are African American or resemble them is false in, wait, NASA claimed this? This claim originated from a viral anonymous social media story about a former scientist witnessing tall black skin beings, but it lacks credible evidence or official NASA endorsement. The idea of alien can be used as a metaphor and discussion on race and fear. It has been argued that there's a connection between alien narratives and narratives on race with fear linking these narratives. Do you know?

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Nelson

Okay, so look,

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Nelson

this might be, well, this is definitely a hot take, but if you think about movies,

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Nelson

most aliens are treated like black people. Sure, yeah, yeah. You think about science fiction films and stuff like that? Like you'd be like, oh, they're the niggas of this movie. Yeah.

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Javier

I'll say this, out of what you read, the only thing I really got out of that was-- Somebody made it up on social media? Well, no, that AI thinks that black people are humans. Great, no, great, great.

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Javier

I'm like, that's a start, right? That's a start, right? No, because-- Not your wife dying in the background though. No, that's because that's a start, right? That's good, because you know Trump has some regulations for AI in the future, right? He's pretty, he don't want that woke stuff in there, right? I said damn, I said chat GBG sound a little woke to me. He sound a little woke to me.

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Javier

Black people are humans?

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Javier

You know what? I feel good about that subscription now. We made it, nigga!

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Javier

I feel good about the subscription. I don't feel like I made it yet, but I do feel good about the subscription. LGBT, right? LGBT, you're okay, you're good in my book. And you know,

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Javier

until you start enforcing mandatory minimums on our maximums on our folk, but--

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Nelson

Yeah, I need you to remember more shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna ask my mom what you're writing now. But it makes you recognize me as a human.

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Javier

Chat GPT, how do you feel about Christopher Columbus?

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Tell me how you feel about, no, because did you notice your chat box is like kind of you now? Yeah, yeah. No, I've set it up that way, I built it that way. I've put prompts in there to be like, "Hey, you mind giving me some talking points "or an idea about something based off "of what you know about me?" And I'm like, "Shit, it's a little bit better "than my horoscope."

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

But yeah. You say that, I might actually type in like,

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Nelson

read my horoscope as a Aquarius sun, a Scorpio moon and a Cancer Rising.

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Javier

You know you're three? Yeah, I know I'm three. You know you're big three? Good for you, man.

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Nelson

I'm big on that. I'm not big on like Zodiacs or anything. I'm big on proving people wrong. So when people say Zodiac, they're Zodiac signs, I'm big about being like, "You don't know anything about what you're talking about." So whenever somebody says, "Yeah, I'm such a this," I'm like, "Ow, you're one of those, okay. "What's your Zodiac sign to?" And they be like, "Oh, my sign is this." I'm like, "No, no, no, what's your moon and you're rising to?" And they be like, "Oh, I don't know all that." Then you don't know anything about Zodiac signs because that's the correlation that individualizes. Like everybody, all these people are fucking Aquarius or Pisces or whatever.

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Nelson

But it ain't that small of a group where you can just be like that. So you ain't got to factor in all the other things.

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Javier

A lot of it sometimes is so generous. It's like, "You can get that I like my peace and quiet, "but you couldn't tell I was a serial killer."

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Nelson

You're right.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Okay, all right.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

All right, all right, cool. Hey, shout out to your wife because she did tell me that there's scientific backing that if your eyes are higher than your ears.

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Javier

Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I am an elf, okay. I am an elf.

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Nelson

Speaking of elves, going back to that blacks are aliens thing, that made me think about the movie like bright.

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Nelson

Where the orcs are treated like the black people now.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah. So like that's- Yeah. Remember them and the elves were beefing? Yes.

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Nelson

Cause the elves were supposed to be like the, they weren't even the whites, they were the Jews. Or Asia.

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Javier

Oh, I see what you did there.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

I see what you did there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were supposed to be like the money marketeering people, they were all the high class. And like, if you ever needed money, you went through the elves for it and stuff like that. So it was like- But still a monster. Yeah.

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Javier

See how that works?

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(Laughing)

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Javier

See how it works? Those are dope. You'll get that later on. You'll be sitting on the toilet one day, you'll be like, man, God, woo.

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Javier

Damn, you said that woo.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

They clocking the team.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

That's clocking. Yeah. That's E8.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

One is T.

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Speaker 6

This is T, right?

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, one of them.

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Nelson

But yeah, E8.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Shout out Renee from After The World's Back but yeah.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Yeah, what? At least chat GPT recognizes me as well.

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Javier

Listen, don't threaten me with a good time. Talk about we coming back in November, man.

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Javier

Oh.

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Javier

Oh, sorry, back to the aliens. Oh. Yeah.

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Nelson

Wait, what's the, we coming back in November.

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Javier

Yeah, that's pretty much what you were saying. We were supposed to be coming to November, the lore.

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Nelson

The lore to the conspiracy?

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Javier

Yeah, yeah.

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Nelson

I hate everything that is life itself. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

For you, not NDA signers. That's pretty much all I got. We're gonna get into these other topics, the DC takeover. I got a lot of shit to get off about this DC takeover and a lot of it is gonna be racially triggering so I'd rather say that for the Patreon.

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Nelson

And then we gotta get into the,

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Nelson

shit, what was the other thing?

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Nelson

I got it on my list.

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Nelson

Oh, and the firing of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna get heavy into that one. Yeah. We'll open with that and then we'll finish out with the DC takeover because I got a lot to say about DC takeover. But I'm done for the NDA signers. You wanna get your last shit off?

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Nelson

Your monologue?

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, listen, y'all.

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Nelson

Close statements from King Javier himself.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Listen, y'all, listen. There you go. Yeah, yeah, listen, work with me on this one. All right, work with me, work with me, work with me.

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Javier

All right.

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Javier

Okay.

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Javier

Donald Trump has been a malignant figure since he walked down that golden escalator straight into our lives as his country's leader.

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Javier

He said, "Make America great again." When?

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Javier

He said, "Drain the swamp." Laugh.

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Javier

He said he wouldn't cut Medicaid.

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Javier

Lie.

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Javier

He even called you stupid for being obsessed

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Javier

with the Epstein files. And on that one, I'll give him a point.

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Javier

But to think that this man ever cared about the American people, our interest, is pure fanciful.

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Javier

In the up and coming months, you'll see his decline.

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Javier

His cognitive ability slipping, you'll see the government auctioned off, piece by piece, to the highest bidder.

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Javier

Confederate statues going back up, while people who dare disagree with them be pushed out.

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Javier

From president to loser to president again,

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Javier

he's still just a two-bit real estate developer from New York. A man never accepted by high society.

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Javier

Yeah, he comes from money, but not that money.

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Javier

Not the 400 storied families that dominate New York's power and wealth.

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Javier

And honestly, that's part of his appeal to MAGA.

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Javier

The illusion that he self-made, that he beats the odds,

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Javier

that he achieved the American dream.

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Javier

But Trump isn't beloved for what he is.

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Javier

Trump is beloved because he gives his supporters an escape,

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Javier

a chance to focus on him, on his promises,

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Javier

so that they don't have to focus on how uninspiring and empty their own lives feel, or the inevitability of America's future as a majority minority nation.

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Javier

There's no going back.

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Javier

The damage is already done. We can only push forward.

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Javier

And if you can stomach it, the deregulation, the gutting of social programs that we all depend on, the mass deportation of the most exploited and vulnerable among us,

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Javier

then you'll see what this country looks like after Trump.

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Javier

And when I say after, I don't mean long

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Javier

because the man is declining right before our eyes.

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Javier

But remember,

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Javier

Donald Trump was never the problem.

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Javier

He's just an instrument of America's failure to finish reconstruction after the Civil War.

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Javier

That's another conversation for another time. For now, I'll say this. Observe, strategize, and stay ready.

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Javier

Because what this country needs is an awakened electorate.

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Javier

And yes, I said it, woke.

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Javier

Too many of you are asleep right now.

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Javier

But you are on the board, and it's your move.

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Javier

Or the move will be made for you.

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Javier

I'm out.

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Nelson

I'm Nelson. That's Javier. We will catch y'all on episode three of "To Protest It To Right."

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Nelson

Peace.

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Nelson

And what's up, my Patreon. I shout out our pictures at YCC, Philanthropus, and we still gotta make brackets for free. I mean, the subscription. We'll think, take it after. You in a rush to get out of here?

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Nelson

I'm asking your wife, not you.

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Javier

No, she's not.

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Nelson

You in a rush to get out of here after we done recording? I am on Mars right now. I am good. Based.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

So it has to wish her really--

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Nelson

I think she was playing a phone game. Even looking down this entire time. She done worked for the government. That crazy?

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Speaker 8

She done worked for the-- She said, "Gee, did you ask him if he a real--"

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Sheesh.

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Nelson

Nope, it's on microphone right above your head. No, I like that.

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Javier

You gotta keep that one. You gotta keep that one.

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Nelson

Yep, that's on camera. Yeah.

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Nelson

Welcome to the podcast. Yikes. We'll take that after.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

That was good.

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Nelson

Yeah, let's go ahead and get into this. The Bureau of Labor Statistics. All right.

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Nelson

Just where you thought numbers couldn't lie. Trump proved he'd rather fire the truth than face it. The Bureau of Labor Statistics dropped a bad report jobs. So Eric McTuffer got canned. No fraud, no scandal. Just a president who didn't like the math. So now he's nominating a guy who calls the monthly jobs report a random number generator. Translation, don't fix the economy. Just cancel the scoreboard. Protests are right. When leaders start firing the facts themselves, do we clap back with picket signs or flip the whole damn table?

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Javier

So this is tough. This one's a riot for me. I'm gonna say this is a protest.

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Nelson

This one's a riot for me.

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Javier

It's a protest because he's stepping over the line, but he's not erasing it. For example, so basically what they're trying to do is say that we're gonna do away with the monthly job support.

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Javier

The monthly job support, right? In order to go to maybe a quarterly jobs report, which as you know, working in government in the cyclical cycle, a lot of times that could look better for you, right?

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Javier

But you're breaking the precedent because a lot of the times it's something that, it's not even just something that businesses rely on. We all kind of rely on that, right? It's kind of a snapshot for a lot of us who don't study jobs numbers thoroughly. They're getting all the best numbers anyways, but again, it's a way to be like, hey, like, okay, like this might be a good time, you know, to buy a house or if you're an entrepreneur, if I wanna hire, right?

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Javier

We all rely on this, right? It's a snapshot, whether it's a good report or it's a bad report, but the slippery slope, which I know we're gonna get into, right? Is basically, hey, whatever stats he doesn't like because the government, we all rely on government stats. All of us, think tanks, colleges, all of us, all rely on government stats, right?

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Nelson

Even if we lie and say we don't trust the government, you motherfuckers are pulling your number somewhere.

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Javier

Right, right, right. Listen, where you go to work, they're relying on government numbers, right? Because they have the infrastructure and apparatus to go out and measure all of these industries, right? And have all of these stats available for us to make decisions about, right? Yep.

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Javier

So I do get rioting over this, right? It's a riot for me.

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Nelson

No answer but some hot it. I'm gonna get a little bit more into detail why it's a riot for me, but I'm gonna let you finish up.

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Javier

I just wanna see the next step.

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Nelson

See, I'm so anti next step because this is my biggest problem with this. Like you said, we all use statistics, especially in like the labor force.

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Nelson

Even McDonald's, I don't know why I keep going to McDonald's today, but this is funny.

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Nelson

Even McDonald's has to do a calculation to figure out how many patties they need to order next week. Statistics are very fucking important. Even if they don't like the statistics, the statistics are important. What I got out of this is, I'm sure you told this guy

[02:02:27:02 - 02:02:42:04]

Nelson

initially to fudge these numbers in some way, shape or form. Yeah. And what you, the fudge numbers that you already got, you didn't like. Right. So then you fired them and replaced them with somebody that's going to fudge the numbers even more.

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Speaker 6

Right.

[02:02:42:18 - 02:02:52:13]

Nelson

There's like, there's that realm of correction that you leave yourself with statistics. But what you're telling me is this person's about to go way outside of that realm.

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Javier

So we're already untrustworthy. Correct. Right?

[02:02:58:24 - 02:03:07:29]

Javier

And I never thought I'd be sitting here saying this. Crazy. But we are already untrustworthy. I have to double and triple check things. I see coming out all the time.

[02:03:07:29 - 02:03:10:26]

Nelson

That's why audits exist. And that's why the Pentagon always fills them.

[02:03:10:26 - 02:03:17:05]

Javier

But look at what he's also done. He's also fired a lot of IGs. And you know, IGs are--

[02:03:18:19 - 02:03:19:26]

Javier

Literally audit checkers.

[02:03:21:04 - 02:03:44:25]

Javier

Literally. And we've always fostered a culture of whistleblowers. And he is wiping them out. I just heard a story in NPR about this, a career justice department attorney, right? On the rise and working through multiple administrations. I didn't know if he was a Republican or a Democrat. I just know he was good at his job.

[02:03:46:04 - 02:03:53:17]

Javier

And he got fired. Because he wouldn't do what the deputy attorney general and the attorney general wanted him to do. Correct.

[02:03:53:17 - 02:04:00:25]

Nelson

Remind me to come back to that with Mitt Romney. Because now I remember what I wanted to say earlier. But I'm gonna come back to that with Mitt Romney. But go ahead.

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Javier

Yeah. No, just me basically saying like, hey,

[02:04:04:20 - 02:04:12:15]

Javier

these career professionals, and we are around them. Like this is what we do. When you work for the federal government, you're around civil service, career professionals,

[02:04:13:27 - 02:04:20:27]

Javier

who despite who they voted for, they do this job. These jobs that we so desperately need done

[02:04:22:01 - 02:05:15:15]

Nelson

on a federal level. It's not even for that, it's not even that for me where it's like you fired this guy who was just doing his job kind of thing. What this leads to is you now putting somebody else in, I can't remember who the next, the new director is. But I already know he's a-- The boo-licker. Yes. Yeah. So what I'm worried about is you putting out these fudge numbers and now the narrative changing again, where the media apparatus will start taking it in and saying, okay, no, these are what the new numbers are. The director said these are the new numbers. So therefore, you guys are now justified in your Trump election. Because the new numbers reflect that we are actually on, because we've been, like the job, like I think the job growth went to a stall. And then like from June to August, there was a decrease in jobs. So now what I'm here,

[02:05:16:26 - 02:05:17:03]

Nelson

excuse me.

[02:05:17:03 - 02:05:18:17]

Javier

And we know what that's a reflection of. Right.

[02:05:19:19 - 02:05:19:19]

(Laughs)

[02:05:19:19 - 02:05:38:05]

Nelson

So now we bring in this new person who's gonna fudge these numbers, but my problem is now in the media apparatus, this is why it's a right for me. The media apparatus is gonna use whatever new information we find out about these jobs, and they're gonna use it to justify, oh no, Trump's really doing a good job because the new director came on and said, jobs never stalled. They've always been on the incline.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

Here's the thing, reality won't match up because you see all these jobs declining, you'll see farmers going out of business, not being able to cover their expenses.

[02:05:48:11 - 02:06:04:16]

Nelson

But people don't know that. And that's my problem. Like the day in and day in, people don't talk to each other, they talk back to the news. Right. So that's my problem. It's like you're gonna take, yes. To a certain point, I hope that people start to feel like it's hard to find a job.

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Javier

Do you remember a time in your mature adult life, right? When you've met someone in a field where it's like, I didn't know that shit was that important, right? I didn't know you did this, right? I didn't know that subsidies, I'm complaining about certain subsidies, but yo, we need this, right? Like Medicaid. Yeah. Or again, I'm gonna keep it with agriculture because they're gonna get hit hard with these tariffs, right? And the unfortunate part is, is you won't start seeing it until you have to pay for the grocery store. Correct.

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Nelson

It just hasn't caught up to you yet.

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Nelson

Even like the fucking, something as simple as these fucking spotted moths. Yeah. Those red asses, those spotted moths. You know how they cost millions a month for agriculture entrepreneurs? Yeah. Just because how much they eat, how much they are an infectious insect and stuff like that. And I'm like, when I first saw them, I was like, this is weird. Yeah. And then I started doing a little research on them because I'd be researched random shit, especially bugs. I don't like bugs. I'd be like, trying to figure out, how do I get rid of this motherfucker? And that was one of the things that I learned, that they are an infectious disease from basically from Asia. Okay. And they came, somehow they came over here on,

[02:07:27:09 - 02:08:16:12]

Nelson

what was it? I think they came over here on wood. And then they just started spreading out from the coast. So that's why they're pretty much only on the coast. But they're in, and they only chase a certain kind of tree, but that doesn't really matter because they'll basically, they'll reproduce anywhere. And they're very hard bug to kill off because they're red. Right. Makes them attractive to other predators. Right, okay. So birds won't eat them because, oh, red means dangerous or poisonous. Right. So, but something like that, looking at these moths that have finally come out, this is my first year ever noticing them. And they come out and they're killing a bunch of plants. And stuff like that. And then I looked at the numbers, like how much they were affecting culture. I was like, $10 million a year, it's crazy.

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Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah.

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Nelson

Like, yes, you never know how important they are until you start like actually looking at it. But a lot of people won't notice until they just start going to the grocery store.

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Javier

Even for like natural disasters,

[02:08:31:21 - 02:08:36:21]

Javier

he, the folks who studied that, right? Who study weather patterns and all of that.

[02:08:36:21 - 02:08:37:24]

Nelson

Because that doesn't, nevermind.

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Javier

Used to, yes. That's what I was getting to, used to, right?

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Javier

You all won't see it or you understand you've been taking a lot of things for granted and just agreeing with all the people who look like you, who say, oh, government is too big. Do you know what it covers though?

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Speaker 6

Yeah.

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Javier

In my opinion, it doesn't cover enough.

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Nelson

Yeah, it's too much. Like, Howard being the school that it is and like what the studies it does and stuff like that. I don't think you guys understand how much like Howard studies have revolutionized America as a whole. Yeah. And you guys are sitting here talking about, oh, well, because of Gaza, they should be shut down and not allowed to be able to receive government funding and stuff like that. First of all, the school's good where it is. Yeah. But like,

[02:09:27:21 - 02:09:34:27]

Nelson

but because of the studies that these universities do and shit like that, like that's how we've been able to progress. You just don't know because you're not directly connected to it.

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Javier

Yeah, but, and you know, both know that R&D has been down even since like Bush. Cause we leave it to Tesla.

[02:09:44:10 - 02:09:54:08]

Javier

Cause that was going to be one of my points about us privatizing. This man wants to privatize everything. Yeah. Right? He wants to privatize Energy Star.

[02:09:56:15 - 02:10:07:00]

Javier

Energy Star is a government program. You see the Energy Star stickers? Yeah, I know. Yeah, that is a government program that pretty much has made homes energy efficient, right?

[02:10:08:01 - 02:10:12:23]

Nelson

I've seen that logo everywhere. And you know, like once you hear Energy Star, you'll know. You know exactly what it is.

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Javier

Yeah, you know. Right. It's trying to privatize it and make it a business that has, that is for profit. Think about that, right? When we're trying to transition over to being energy efficient,

[02:10:27:05 - 02:10:30:19]

Javier

because damn, you know, this was a hot ass summer, right? Yep.

[02:10:31:19 - 02:10:31:20]

(Laughing)

[02:10:31:20 - 02:10:35:13]

Nelson

You know that, you know. God, that shit really do be on every frigerator.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, it's everywhere.

[02:10:37:20 - 02:10:40:23]

Nelson

That's why I'm like, where do I be seeing that shit at? It's everywhere, it's on TV.

[02:10:40:23 - 02:10:47:16]

Javier

It's everywhere. If you don't buy, if you buy a house without Energy Star anywhere, right? That's a bootleg house.

[02:10:47:16 - 02:10:48:14]

(Laughing)

[02:10:48:14 - 02:10:54:01]

Javier

That's a boot. You got your little Amazon house. Even Amazon house got-- Energy Star.

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Speaker 6

Energy Star, yeah.

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Javier

Where'd you get that from? Yeah, that's, that's wild, yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah, as soon as you said it, I was like, I know the logo, but I forget where I be seeing the logo and like reality is I be seeing the logo everywhere. Yeah, yeah. It's on the front of your mini fridge. Look over at it, I promise you.

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Javier

Listen, I'm not gonna preach on this episode about the government not needing to make a profit and how government spending really works, but I'm just gonna say it doesn't need to make a profit. So who's the money going to? Or this pot of money that's being set aside for these things. Him and Nvidia, the government has a stake in Nvidia now. Right? Yep. What is that for?

[02:11:32:29 - 02:11:34:23]

Javier

What is it for?

[02:11:35:23 - 02:11:38:23]

Javier

Your taxes don't pay for anything on the federal level. So what is it for?

[02:11:40:22 - 02:11:47:12]

Javier

Are he, is he setting-- I ain't got nothing. Is he setting aside money to directly give back to the American people? Because I be for it.

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Nelson

I'mma just call you out about this. For somebody that gave this a protest, you got a lot to say about this shit.

[02:11:52:26 - 02:11:54:11]

(Laughing)

[02:11:55:13 - 02:11:56:17]

Javier

I just wanna see the next step.

[02:11:56:17 - 02:11:58:26]

(Laughing)

[02:12:03:04 - 02:12:04:16]

Nelson

I

[02:12:04:16 - 02:12:17:29]

Javier

just wanna see the next step. Yeah, no, no, seriously, I really do. I just wanna see the next step before I protest on this, right? I mean, before I riot on this, because-- This a riot for fucking me. Nah, this one, this one, this one pissed me off. Yeah, he's,

[02:12:19:20 - 02:12:19:20]

(Laughing)

[02:12:19:20 - 02:12:24:25]

Javier

but again, also, I know that the next person can come in and restore everything back to normal.

[02:12:24:25 - 02:12:43:25]

Nelson

And I agree. But then I agree 100% that new administration is gonna do things completely different. The first three, four, five months is going to be going against all the executive orders that Trump has done. I agree. But for right now, we are only eight months into this guy's presidency.

[02:12:44:29 - 02:12:48:08]

Nelson

So that's where it's like, yo, we still have to deal with this for three more years.

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Javier

If I can believe that even weird, sleepy Vance, if he was to take over--

[02:12:54:23 - 02:12:56:04]

Intro

Sleepy Vance!

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Javier

Sleepy Vance. Weird, sleepy Vance, if he were to take over, right? I still believe that he would restore some of the norms that go into the federal government.

[02:13:09:04 - 02:13:10:24]

Javier

I do, I do believe that.

[02:13:10:24 - 02:13:11:16]

Nelson

I,

[02:13:12:16 - 02:13:33:06]

Nelson

so, weirdly enough, I do agree with that. But I think that is only because I think that Vance is just a hardcore Republican that is currently under the boot of Trump. Yeah. So I think once he, I'm not against Republicanism and that's why I'm gonna get back to that Mitt Romney thing. I'm not against Republicanism. Again, Marco Rubio's my boy, I guess.

[02:13:34:22 - 02:13:35:07]

Nelson

I guess?

[02:13:37:00 - 02:13:38:06]

Nelson

That's your words.

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Nelson

So yeah, it is my guess. Sure. But I'm not against Republican ideology. I'm not against what Trump is doing. It's crazy. I can see JD Vance coming in and being like, all right, yeah, some of these things he did, I don't have to listen to anymore because for whatever reason, JD Vance is now in charge. So I can see a lot of other things changing back to Nora.

[02:14:01:08 - 02:14:08:18]

Javier

In a weird, dry, alternate universe, I could see your boy, Marco, doing the same thing, right? Coming in and- You

[02:14:08:18 - 02:14:13:05]

Nelson

see, he keeps saying my boy, all right? So you know that this is his narrative, all right?

[02:14:13:05 - 02:14:35:09]

Javier

Go ahead, go ahead. But no, it's true though. I just feel like the next person, whoever he or she is, right? Based. Will come in and restore some normal, some normalities because you can't be president and not have these things in place. You can't be president and have a weak state department.

[02:14:35:09 - 02:14:47:06]

Nelson

I don't see any other president, any other Republican president doing what Trump has been doing. No. The Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, blah, blah, blah. I don't see any of that getting done without somebody like Trump. Because he-

[02:14:47:06 - 02:14:58:00]

Javier

He's not a traditional reservist. Listen, the presidency is the highest office in the land, but you are accountable to the American people. You are accountable to the Constitution.

[02:14:59:00 - 02:14:59:06]

Nelson

Representative.

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Javier

Absolutely. This man is not accountable to anybody but himself.

[02:15:02:22 - 02:15:14:08]

Nelson

And he's not accountable. I can see Trump moving. If he doesn't get his extra years from somehow fucking fobbing the election, not fobbing the election, somehow turn this into a dictatorship

[02:15:15:13 - 02:15:17:04]

Nelson

and getting more years than his four.

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Nelson

If he, once he loses the reelection,

[02:15:23:27 - 02:15:27:20]

Nelson

I can see him moving to another country. Immediately. I'm not gonna let that stand.

[02:15:28:25 - 02:15:35:10]

Nelson

You don't have a choice. I'm not gonna let that stand. Yeah, my fuck's gonna be living in Russia. Oh, no. With Secret Service on 24 Hour Watch.

[02:15:35:10 - 02:15:49:13]

Javier

No, no, no, we gonna have to change the laws up on, we have to temporarily take his Secret Service. No, no, no, you come back here. Secret Service is only allowed in the state of the United States. You got a lot of news to face. You got a lot of faces to face after this.

[02:15:49:13 - 02:15:57:21]

Nelson

Man, you can't argue no more now. No, no, that's it. You can't scare anybody anymore. You're just the previous president, you can't run again, this is gonna be fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

I'm excited about that. You get to be a citizen. You get to be a citizen, I'm gonna be at the bar with you. Oh, yeah. Donald Trump?

[02:16:08:01 - 02:16:08:07]

Nelson

Oh.

[02:16:09:23 - 02:16:13:18]

Nelson

Not my nigga, but my son. Right, right, right. Let me come holler at you real quick.

[02:16:14:24 - 02:16:16:04]

(Laughing)

[02:16:16:04 - 02:16:18:28]

Javier

I got some things I wanna say to you, bitch.

[02:16:20:12 - 02:16:20:23]

(Laughing)

[02:16:20:23 - 02:16:22:05]

Nelson

So you did the big beautiful bill.

[02:16:22:05 - 02:16:28:14]

Javier

Right, right, right, right, right, right. Like I said in my monologue, he's an instrument. Yes. He's an instrument.

[02:16:28:14 - 02:16:47:26]

Nelson

And that will go into my DC takeover thing, but I think I've said this many a times previously in the past. I don't think Trump is a racist. I think he's a fascist, but I don't think he's a racist. But I do think the ears, I mean the mouths that are in his ear are racist. I think the Heritage Foundation is a racist community.

[02:16:47:26 - 02:16:53:01]

Javier

I think that he will just do anything to-- The photo class.

[02:16:53:01 - 02:16:55:16]

Nelson

Yes. I gotta get that sound bite.

[02:16:56:19 - 02:16:56:23]

(Laughing)

[02:16:56:23 - 02:16:59:03]

Javier

You know what I found out? He wanted to be a,

[02:17:00:04 - 02:17:28:14]

Javier

he signed up to go to film school or something like that, but never showed up. He wanted, he just wants to be on TV. He wants to be on TV. Just to make a deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's crazy, because I also saw a video that I really had to take into consideration. I hated that I had to do this. But it was a former FBI agent or negotiator talking about how Donald Trump, the way he makes deals, he was kinda like giving him his props a little bit. Basically saying--

[02:17:28:14 - 02:17:30:27]

Nelson

Your motherfucker hasn't made a deal since he's been,

[02:17:30:27 - 02:17:43:25]

Javier

nevermind, go ahead. That's what I was sitting there thinking to myself. But basically he was pretty much saying that every time he goes into the room with somebody that is like an enemy or something like that, he always comes out with a deal. And I'm just like,

[02:17:43:25 - 02:17:46:21]

Nelson

that-- Which is crazy, because he just met with Putin, nevermind.

[02:17:46:21 - 02:17:47:17]

(Laughing)

[02:17:47:17 - 02:17:48:23]

Nelson

That may be,

[02:17:48:23 - 02:17:49:26]

Javier

Putin's not an enemy, did he?

[02:17:49:26 - 02:17:51:12]

Nelson

Oh, that's right, I forgot.

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Javier

That may be true in some weird way, right? But also at the very same time, does that deal ever benefit America?

[02:18:01:15 - 02:18:03:07]

Javier

No, it benefits him. Yeah.

[02:18:04:07 - 02:18:17:03]

Javier

So if the deal making process is like, hey, what other world leaders not gonna give in to some deal, right, that mostly benefits them, but the give and take is, oh, hey,

[02:18:19:07 - 02:18:24:20]

Javier

Donald Trump's gonna get a little bit out of this deal. Who's not gonna take that? Who's not gonna take that?

[02:18:25:20 - 02:18:47:04]

Javier

Because you lose, we lose, we lose. Every time. Where do we get out of that, him going to talk to Putin? Nothing, because the Ukrainian sure as hell didn't get anything out of that. That's for damn sure. They lost after that, right? If they can't hold this wall for another four years, it is a wrap for them. Literally. It is a wrap for them.

[02:18:47:04 - 02:18:50:25]

Nelson

And he's probably banking on that. He's probably banking on it in the next four years. Yeah,

[02:18:51:26 - 02:18:51:27]

Nelson

Putin

[02:18:51:27 - 02:18:58:28]

Javier

can be patient. He can afford to be patient. He will see the next two presidents maybe, right?

[02:19:01:00 - 02:19:06:10]

Javier

But Ukraine, they're done. If they can't last these next four years. Yeah, I agree.

[02:19:06:10 - 02:19:07:06]

Nelson

That's it.

[02:19:08:08 - 02:19:08:08]

(Laughing)

[02:19:08:08 - 02:19:09:20]

Nelson

It's a long game, baby.

[02:19:09:20 - 02:19:17:05]

Javier

That's it, you are now part of, it is the USSR again. It's the Soviet Union, right? It's Russia plus Ukraine.

[02:19:19:19 - 02:19:20:14]

Javier

New Russia.

[02:19:20:14 - 02:19:23:24]

(Laughing)

[02:19:25:29 - 02:19:28:03]

Nelson

New Russia is crazy. New Russia.

[02:19:29:10 - 02:19:30:19]

Nelson

So I wanna get into that,

[02:19:31:28 - 02:20:07:23]

Nelson

because this is one of the things where I wanna point out, again, I personally, I hate Trump, that's my president. But there's gotta be some kind of distinctiveness where I point out that I'm not anti-Republican or anything like that. I was listening to Cenk on Jubilee, when he was talking about, oh, sorry, for the last one, for the firing of the Bureau of Labor Statistics Director. I give it a, it's a strong riot for me, but--

[02:20:07:23 - 02:20:12:20]

Javier

I'm gonna keep it on the protest right now. I just wanna see the next step. So the next step is gonna be a riot, that's what I heard.

[02:20:12:20 - 02:20:15:25]

Nelson

You gonna come back and re-knit your protest?

[02:20:15:25 - 02:20:19:21]

Javier

No, I'm gonna just be like, I'm be like, "Hey, I'm at the next step, y'all, hey."

[02:20:21:26 - 02:20:21:27]

(Laughing)

[02:20:21:27 - 02:20:24:23]

Javier

I want you now, it's time for the riot.

[02:20:26:07 - 02:20:29:24]

Nelson

So watching Cenk on the Jubilee,

[02:20:31:06 - 02:20:33:10]

Nelson

when he was talking about Mitt Romney,

[02:20:34:12 - 02:20:40:25]

Nelson

he was talking about Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act. He was like, it was originally the Mitt Romney healthcare plan.

[02:20:40:25 - 02:20:41:24]

Javier

When he was governor of Massachusetts.

[02:20:43:10 - 02:20:47:01]

Nelson

And he was like, so I don't understand why Obama, yeah, there you go.

[02:20:49:04 - 02:20:49:13]

(Laughing)

[02:20:49:13 - 02:20:51:03]

Nelson

Where is he? She making noise.

[02:20:52:15 - 02:20:52:19]

(Laughing)

[02:20:54:04 - 02:21:05:06]

Nelson

So he was talking about Obama, he used the Mitt Romney care plan as the Affordable Care Plan. So Obama's just as bad as the Republicans, he's like, first of all, motherfucker,

[02:21:06:07 - 02:21:21:19]

Nelson

the Affordable Care Act is still a good plan. And just because it was made by a Republican, therefore it's bad, if the plan is good, the plan is good, the border bill was made by Linkford. Right. And Linkford is a Republican, a strong Republican.

[02:21:21:19 - 02:21:23:19]

Javier

The EPA was created by the Nixon administration.

[02:21:25:03 - 02:21:38:03]

Nelson

Just because it's a plan by a Republican doesn't make it a bad plan. It's just a matter of does it fit the, when it comes to a Democrat approving of it, does it fit a Democratic appeal or not?

[02:21:38:03 - 02:21:39:13]

Javier

Even to what you're talking about,

[02:21:40:20 - 02:21:47:04]

Javier

Nixon was also, their administration was the one that flirted with the plan that Mitt Romney and them actually developed for Massachusetts.

[02:21:47:04 - 02:21:47:22]

Nelson

Yeah.

[02:21:47:22 - 02:21:48:00]

Speaker 6

Yeah.

[02:21:48:00 - 02:21:54:27]

Nelson

But in the Lyndon B. Johnson DEI process, before it was called DEI. Right.

[02:21:56:16 - 02:21:57:26]

Nelson

Back when it was just called equal opportunity.

[02:21:59:02 - 02:21:59:08]

(Laughing)

[02:21:59:08 - 02:22:02:01]

Nelson

Even that was a Democratic view. And Lyndon B. Johnson was a racist.

[02:22:03:03 - 02:22:03:11]

Javier

He was.

[02:22:03:11 - 02:22:05:22]

Nelson

So, but like he's still past that.

[02:22:05:22 - 02:22:06:01]

Javier

Yeah.

[02:22:06:01 - 02:22:14:15]

Nelson

So it's like just because these plans come from the opposite party, do not make them instantly bad parties. The problem is like what we disagree with and how can we make it agreeable?

[02:22:14:15 - 02:22:21:01]

Javier

Right, if you more concerned about who wrote it versus what's actually in the bill, you done lost. Agreed. You done lost.

[02:22:21:01 - 02:22:27:12]

Nelson

Agreed. Cause now you're just saying because this person wrote it, therefore I can't acknowledge it. Yeah. It's like, wait, did you read what was in it?

[02:22:27:12 - 02:22:30:08]

Javier

So race to the bottom. Right. Literally a race to the bottom.

[02:22:30:08 - 02:22:39:18]

Nelson

Yeah, anybody that brings up the fact that the Affordable Care Act was originally the Mitt Romney act like, yeah, no, sorry. It's still a good plan. So what?

[02:22:40:28 - 02:22:41:04]

Javier

Exactly.

[02:22:42:06 - 02:22:45:04]

Javier

To the person that's saying that you've never had an original idea in your life.

[02:22:47:17 - 02:23:07:25]

Nelson

And again, I go back to the border bill. That the border protection act that Langford created was a good bill. Even the fact that they fucking released it and it had all those other whatever subsidies about sending funding into Ukraine and stuff like that. Cool, you can complain about that original bill. But the second one, the revised one came out and it was strictly a border bill.

[02:23:07:25 - 02:23:39:23]

Javier

George Bush came this close to passing a comprehensive immigration bill. It tanked, it's not a perfect bill, but that's what happens when you live in a pluralistic society, right? It's a democracy, right? Whoever's the party in power gets majority of what they wanted to the bill, right? And without excluding the minority's party ideas, right? It's compromise, give and take, right? Yes, yes. But we don't wanna operate like that as a country anymore. We want it to be one party rule,

[02:23:41:11 - 02:24:10:14]

Javier

not we. Not we. Cause I'm not a champion for either side, right? I'm a champion for what's right for the American people. But if I bring it down to my level, it's what's right for myself and my family, right? Can I go out here and still achieve my dreams while raising a family, right? Why aren't y'all thinking these things when it comes to this man?

[02:24:10:14 - 02:24:13:10]

Nelson

Well, they are. That's why they want the transgenders banned from America.

[02:24:13:10 - 02:24:25:03]

Javier

They don't care what he does. He can do anything. He can pass reparations right now and they'd be like, well, do you know, I guess your black people really did deserve it.

[02:24:25:03 - 02:24:26:09]

Nelson

He said y'all were human.

[02:24:26:09 - 02:24:29:23]

Javier

Honestly, their head would probably explode,

[02:24:30:26 - 02:24:43:05]

Javier

right? Cause it's like they can't compute it. They can't go against Donald Trump, but they can't go against something that's good for somebody they want to go against something that's good for somebody else, right? So they, you know what Donald Trump- I

[02:24:43:05 - 02:24:45:10]

Nelson

can see their eyes just spinning back and forth and just like.

[02:24:45:10 - 02:24:48:27]

Javier

Donald Trump, man, hey, listen, if you want to pass reparations.

[02:24:51:08 - 02:24:53:18]

Nelson

I'ma still hate you, but I'ma like that.

[02:24:53:18 - 02:24:54:23]

Javier

I'll like that.

[02:24:55:25 - 02:24:55:25]

(Laughing)

[02:24:55:25 - 02:24:56:13]

Javier

I'll like that.

[02:24:56:13 - 02:24:59:25]

Speaker 8

That's what I'ma still hate you. That's about as much as you're gonna get out of me.

[02:24:59:25 - 02:25:15:14]

Javier

I'll like that. I'll really like that, right? I'll like it. Trump would never. No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't. He wouldn't. Cause you still wouldn't have my vote. Yeah, that's for damn sure. But also you can't vote anymore. So you can't run anymore.

[02:25:15:14 - 02:25:26:03]

Nelson

Can we talk about that for a second? You know, there are people that are still, I can't wait till the end of this four years. Cause there are people that are still sitting here saying, yeah, but Kamala still would have been worse.

[02:25:27:11 - 02:25:29:20]

Nelson

And I'm like,

[02:25:32:17 - 02:25:34:03]

Nelson

at least say her name right.

[02:25:35:22 - 02:25:43:03]

Nelson

They keep calling her Kamala. I'm like, Kamala, like a comma in a sentence. Kamala, like how the fuck do you keep fucking that up?

[02:25:43:03 - 02:25:44:13]

Javier

She said it a thousand times.

[02:25:44:13 - 02:25:50:05]

Nelson

Right. Yeah. And if you knew so much about what the politics you preach about, you wouldn't know what her actual fucking name is.

[02:25:50:05 - 02:25:53:23]

Javier

Everything about her was described by somebody else to do. Agree.

[02:25:55:01 - 02:26:03:07]

Nelson

But yeah, listening to people sit there and still argue that Kamala still would have been worse. I'm like.

[02:26:03:07 - 02:26:08:25]

Javier

Kamala's laugh would have been better than Donald Trump right now. Her laugh.

[02:26:08:25 - 02:26:10:23]

Nelson

You don't like his dancing? The bing boo, bop, bop.

[02:26:10:23 - 02:26:23:19]

Javier

I don't know what that is. He need to pack that up along with his clothes and his wife and his kids. Y'all need to leave the White House. Get out of here. Yeah, I don't know what that is. That's crazy.

[02:26:23:19 - 02:26:25:04]

Nelson

That's the dance. That's the Trump dance.

[02:26:25:04 - 02:26:27:20]

Javier

Yeah, yeah. Dancing all over.

[02:26:27:20 - 02:26:30:04]

Nelson

I got a wedding in October I'm going to. I'm gonna be doing that dance the whole time.

[02:26:30:04 - 02:26:33:13]

Javier

He gonna be dancing all over your 401k and your investments too.

[02:26:34:13 - 02:26:34:26]

(Laughing)

[02:26:34:26 - 02:26:45:11]

Nelson

When I sent out the RSVP, cause I'm one of the groomsmen, but I still had to do the RSVP very work. When it was like song you would like played, I was like juvenile back that up. And I'm gonna be over there.

[02:26:45:11 - 02:26:47:15]

(Singing)

[02:26:47:15 - 02:26:49:19]

Nelson

I'm gonna be doing the Trump dance the entire time.

[02:26:51:04 - 02:26:51:23]

(Laughing)

[02:26:53:20 - 02:26:57:00]

Javier

It's gonna be one, one mag of chicken in the back. Like that's, that's him right there.

[02:26:57:00 - 02:26:58:01]

(Laughing)

[02:26:58:01 - 02:26:59:25]

Javier

That's him. I'm taking him home tonight.

[02:26:59:25 - 02:27:00:16]

Speaker 8

I'm catching the flowers for him.

[02:27:00:16 - 02:27:04:04]

Javier

Right, I'll tell ya. Taking him home tonight. That's what it's gonna be.

[02:27:04:04 - 02:27:06:23]

Nelson

If there's any magga chicks at this wedding, I'm not going.

[02:27:07:28 - 02:27:07:28]

(Laughing)

[02:27:07:28 - 02:27:08:22]

Nelson

Why not?

[02:27:11:26 - 02:27:15:16]

Nelson

I'm at the wrong wedding if there's magga chicks there. I guess so. That's not true. Not really.

[02:27:15:16 - 02:27:16:24]

Javier

That's a wedding.

[02:27:16:24 - 02:27:17:20]

Nelson

You at the wrong job.

[02:27:17:20 - 02:27:20:18]

Speaker 8

I am at the wrong, I was saying this is day one.

[02:27:21:25 - 02:27:21:26]

(Laughing)

[02:27:21:26 - 02:27:23:24]

Javier

That's why I'm trying to convert all those niggas. Yeah.

[02:27:23:24 - 02:27:24:24]

(Laughing)

[02:27:24:24 - 02:27:25:16]

Javier

Just gotta give it time.

[02:27:26:16 - 02:27:26:27]

(Laughing)

[02:27:26:27 - 02:27:28:22]

Javier

You're not converting them man, they stuck.

[02:27:30:01 - 02:27:30:23]

Javier

I'm gonna try.

[02:27:30:23 - 02:27:32:00]

Nelson

Nah.

[02:27:33:02 - 02:27:33:27]

Nelson

And if I can't, I'm gonna quit.

[02:27:35:03 - 02:27:42:19]

Nelson

I re-enlisted. My contract is over-- I guess this is your last one then. In three years. In three years, I don't know who my next president's gonna be.

[02:27:43:25 - 02:27:44:01]

Javier

True.

[02:27:44:01 - 02:27:47:22]

Nelson

So. True. That's why I only re-enlisted for three years.

[02:27:47:22 - 02:27:48:13]

Javier

Okay.

[02:27:51:21 - 02:28:03:22]

Nelson

One of the guys asked me, he was like, "You're only doing three years?" I said, "Yep." He's like, "Not even four?" I said, "Nope." Oh, you got a master plan. I said, "Pretty much." Yeah.

[02:28:04:22 - 02:28:04:23]

(Laughing)

[02:28:04:23 - 02:28:08:01]

Nelson

The master plan is, I'm not working for Trump again if he stays our president.

[02:28:08:01 - 02:28:16:10]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fact that they didn't catch on that right away. Especially knowing me. Yeah, that's, well, it also speaks to the privilege too.

[02:28:16:10 - 02:28:17:13]

Nelson

True.

[02:28:18:17 - 02:28:25:01]

Nelson

Conversations they're not ready for because they still don't. You know what? Let's talk about that for a second. Did I tell you about my white people take?

[02:28:25:01 - 02:28:25:26]

Speaker 6

No.

[02:28:25:26 - 02:28:26:13]

Nelson

About the racism?

[02:28:26:13 - 02:28:27:00]

Speaker 6

No.

[02:28:28:02 - 02:28:35:23]

Nelson

I made this argument, not argument, but I made this statement at work. And I got this from, shout out J-Pat from Harrison's and Will's podcast.

[02:28:37:19 - 02:29:16:23]

Nelson

He said this a long time ago and it took a while for it to click but now it has finally clicked for me. And it was that white people are all of one of two things. White people are all white people are either racist or ignorant about racism. Okay, yeah, you did, okay. So, and obviously I'm super generalizing but that amount that like understands racism and isn't racist is very, very, very, very my new. Yeah. So yeah, and I say that about work or I say that to somebody at work and they were like, well, why would you say that? I was like, half of the conversations I have with you guys is, well, it's not that bad.

[02:29:18:06 - 02:29:20:26]

Nelson

That shows you're ignorant about racism.

[02:29:20:26 - 02:29:25:26]

Javier

Yeah, I'm a pragmatist by nature and I'm always like,

[02:29:26:28 - 02:29:37:23]

Javier

I kind of have a special place in my heart for the allies, right? Because you get it. You get that racism is so lowbrow and low IQ.

[02:29:37:23 - 02:29:46:16]

Nelson

Yes. Unintellectual. Racism itself, yes. Racism is also a learned trait. It is. That's the thing about it. It's like, nobody's born racist.

[02:29:46:16 - 02:29:47:05]

Speaker 6

Yeah.

[02:29:47:05 - 02:29:51:16]

Nelson

Like some of you guys have racist parents and you're aren't racist and you're a black people.

[02:29:52:19 - 02:29:55:18]

Javier

I grew up in a place, I went to school in a place where

[02:29:57:10 - 02:29:59:29]

Javier

I was still gonna see a lot of these people in high school.

[02:30:01:02 - 02:30:07:28]

Javier

So you could see the transition, right? It was all nice and we was playing in elementary school.

[02:30:07:28 - 02:30:10:08]

Nelson

And it's a point my mom said that I can't hang out with you guys anymore.

[02:30:10:08 - 02:30:25:26]

Javier

Right, we get to junior high in high school and it's just like, it's a split. We literally had two different cafeterias. The red cafeteria and the blue cafeteria, right? Ask me how many times I sat on the red side.

[02:30:28:14 - 02:30:28:25]

(Laughing)

[02:30:28:25 - 02:30:36:13]

Javier

Right? I get it. Just saying, it wasn't direct segregation, but it was segregation.

[02:30:36:13 - 02:30:37:01]

Nelson

Yeah, yeah.

[02:30:37:01 - 02:31:31:22]

Nelson

And that's the one thing I loved about my high school experience is that some of my friends, obviously, if you know me, I dive in a little, I can't say white culture, but I'm a Lincoln Park advocate. I'm a strong advocate for Lincoln Park. I listen to my fair share of alternative rock and stuff like that. I enjoy watching a lot of white commentators on people and stuff like that. I'm not blatantly racist or anything like that, but I do understand that there's a difference of upbringing. I do understand it's a difference of culture or a lack of culture. I always say that white people don't have any culture. That's why they always try to identify with somebody else's or whenever they talk about their culture, they always go back to heritage. It's never culture, it's only heritage. They be like, "Well, I'm a Viking from the Caucus Mountains and my mom came from this European descendants chain of hierarchy and all that bullshit."

[02:31:31:22 - 02:31:35:13]

Javier

Or it's like, "It's just a flag, it's my heritage." Right.

[02:31:37:01 - 02:31:37:05]

(Laughs)

[02:31:37:05 - 02:31:41:08]

Nelson

Lo and behold, it's the Georgia flag, which is nothing but the Confederate flag.

[02:31:41:08 - 02:31:43:09]

Javier

Or the Mississippi flag used to be, right?

[02:31:43:09 - 02:31:43:19]

Nelson

Yep.

[02:31:45:13 - 02:31:46:10]

Nelson

But yeah, I always,

[02:31:47:13 - 02:31:59:25]

Nelson

but for me, it's always been like, "I have white friends, but they'll never understand certain things." Yeah. My white friends will never be able to be in tune with some of the conversations I have with the black friends that are part of that same group.

[02:31:59:25 - 02:32:00:10]

Speaker 6

Right, right.

[02:32:00:10 - 02:32:05:08]

Nelson

We grew up differently, but we all grew up the same. We just got looked at differently.

[02:32:05:08 - 02:32:07:09]

Javier

We also grew up with different information.

[02:32:07:09 - 02:32:08:04]

Nelson

Yes, correct.

[02:32:09:19 - 02:32:14:25]

Javier

Black history is American history. It's synonymous. You can't teach one without the other.

[02:32:14:25 - 02:32:15:02]

Nelson

Correct.

[02:32:15:02 - 02:32:29:18]

Javier

Right? And if we're just getting taught this surface level, "Oh, slavery badge, you know, American Revolution though, right, reconstruction in Jim Crow, kind of bad, right?" Right on the World War I and World War II, right? Is that now how it went?

[02:32:29:18 - 02:32:30:25]

Nelson

Yes, that's exactly how it went.

[02:32:30:25 - 02:32:33:23]

Javier

That's exactly how it went, right? I had to go outside.

[02:32:35:08 - 02:32:45:27]

Javier

I had to be taught by my family. Yeah. A lot of black history, right? And then as an adult, how is it that a lot of us are just finding out about Tulsa as adults?

[02:32:46:28 - 02:32:49:15]

Nelson

Crazy. Agree, but crazy.

[02:32:51:24 - 02:32:56:11]

Javier

And when you preach the pull yourself up by your bootstraps. I fucking hate that line.

[02:32:57:26 - 02:33:15:25]

Javier

And we're so lazy and we don't help one another. We need to be more like the Jewish people. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. At every single chance that we've pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps, come from slavery. Y'all didn't have to do that. Remember that, right?

[02:33:17:19 - 02:33:32:18]

Javier

A slave mentality to your full citizen. That's a crazy transition, right? That's a crazy transition. But here we are. We did everything you asked us to do, right? We built communities. We ran for public office.

[02:33:34:17 - 02:33:36:06]

Nelson

We won the presidency. Yep.

[02:33:37:24 - 02:33:37:29]

(Laughing)

[02:33:39:24 - 02:33:45:12]

Javier

And you use violence and laws to take it away. Yep. And then try to call me lazy.

[02:33:46:25 - 02:33:48:20]

Javier

What are you trying to do to me?

[02:33:50:08 - 02:33:58:04]

Nelson

Now, I'm about to say some anti-black shit. A lot of black people aren't going here. I did say this, I was explaining to avionics.

[02:33:59:06 - 02:34:19:14]

Nelson

I said, "Oh yeah, now most of you niggas are, that's why I make the joke black Republican." I said, "Most of you niggas are Republicans." And they were like, "Well, how do you say that?" I said, "A lot of black people don't realize it because you're supposed to identify as Democrat." But a lot of y'all are fucking Republicans by ideology. And he was like, "Why you say that?" I said, "Oh, that's very easy." I said,

[02:34:21:18 - 02:34:25:01]

Nelson

"Christian-based, a lot of you motherfuckers are super Christian-based." Yeah.

[02:34:27:07 - 02:34:43:18]

Nelson

Y'all hate government assistance because y'all sitting here, y'all will make the argument that y'all made it in this country without government assistance. So why should your textiles go to a government assistance? So you don't like an overbearing government. You hate the gays, and I don't understand because you have a high gay population,

[02:34:44:19 - 02:34:47:08]

Javier

but black people hate gay people. That's in the closet.

[02:34:50:13 - 02:34:50:14]

(Laughing)

[02:34:50:14 - 02:35:04:15]

Nelson

Black people hate gay people. I don't know what it is about that. I was like, "A lot of you fucking ideologies are fucking Republican as hell." Which is fine, but you need to acknowledge that. Yeah. Yeah, y'all are black Republicans.

[02:35:04:15 - 02:35:07:01]

Javier

You know what you also need to acknowledge? You will never get an invite.

[02:35:09:05 - 02:35:15:18]

Javier

And if you do, you're chosen strategically. Yes. Right? It's not meant for everybody.

[02:35:15:18 - 02:35:16:10]

Nelson

You're for performance.

[02:35:16:10 - 02:35:17:12]

(Laughing)

[02:35:17:12 - 02:35:21:18]

Javier

It's for me to say, "Hey, look at this little ghetto person that we bought up."

[02:35:21:18 - 02:35:22:15]

(Laughing)

[02:35:22:15 - 02:35:39:22]

Javier

Oh, yeah. Little ghetto person. Oh, yeah, no, he's doing so well for himself, right? And he agrees with everything that we agree with, right? And you should be like them. And guess what? That person ain't doing a damn thing for their community. They are not paying it forward.

[02:35:39:22 - 02:35:51:09]

Nelson

Have you ever, like, hold on, can we talk about that for a second? How many of these whitewashed black people have ever made it actually successfully? Outside of whatever whitewashed triad they're a part of.

[02:35:51:09 - 02:35:52:23]

Javier

It depends on how hard you wanna go.

[02:35:54:21 - 02:35:55:22]

Javier

What's your dedication is?

[02:35:57:03 - 02:35:58:13]

Javier

Clarence Thomas went full on.

[02:35:58:13 - 02:36:04:14]

Nelson

Yeah, but he's still a part of the establishment. He's still a part of the government. He's still only as relevant as the party that he's a part of.

[02:36:04:14 - 02:36:06:05]

Javier

He's a Supreme Court justice.

[02:36:06:05 - 02:36:12:25]

Nelson

Yeah, for life, yeah, I got that. But I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. If he were to ever step down with his Clarence Thomas have after that.

[02:36:12:25 - 02:36:20:25]

Javier

He was a Supreme Court justice. That goes on, even for a white man, that goes on your tombstone, right?

[02:36:22:05 - 02:36:22:11]

Javier

Yeah,

[02:36:23:12 - 02:36:26:00]

Javier

but-- You're in a co-equal branch of government.

[02:36:26:00 - 02:36:33:27]

Nelson

No, I'm saying-- Savically. No, no, no, like your historical value, in a sense, yes, makes sense. I'm talking about like, what does that lead to?

[02:36:35:03 - 02:36:36:11]

Javier

Unfortunately, he'll get mentioned

[02:36:37:13 - 02:36:42:10]

Javier

on the co-tales of like Thurgood Marshall, or you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just kind of how it works.

[02:36:42:10 - 02:36:57:26]

Nelson

And that's, for Clarence Thomas is like, kind of the exception to the rule because it's in a lifetime position of part of the government. But like any whitewash black person, what is your value outside of that white establishment that you're a part of?

[02:37:00:08 - 02:37:25:26]

Nelson

Clarence Thomas is in a lifetime seat. That's why it's different for him. It's access, power, and money. Do you keep that, unless you're in that, do you keep that outside of your co- like, I guess my question is like, if you go back to the black community, what is your value? If you can, it's not about the black community, that's the point. And that's kind of what I'm saying. So it's not about you being black and in that position. It's just about you being the yes man in that position, but also being black.

[02:37:25:26 - 02:37:50:29]

Javier

Right. But what they're starting to see is that, their little, that little ploy that they're trying to pull, it's not working on majority of us, right? That I don't see Clarence Thomas and be like, I want to be just like him. No, I don't see any of that either. So what's kind of the point then, right? They kind of have to get you in a stage where your mind isn't that developed, why-ins, right? No,

[02:37:52:01 - 02:38:04:12]

Javier

no, hold on, am I preaching right now? You spent it. Am I preaching right now? They kind of got to get you in a point to where your mind isn't fully developed, right? Because you're not going to get- They're not going to get you and me, right?

[02:38:05:20 - 02:38:06:15]

Javier

But if they can get,

[02:38:07:19 - 02:38:30:26]

Javier

somebody like, love you to death bro, like my little brother, right? If they can get somebody like that, right? To be like, woe is me, man, God is so bad. These women out here just out here using us, right? Oh, like the red pill coming in. The red pills, right? If they can get you in that space, right? And keep you in a bubble with strictly podcasts and strictly adhering to this type of material.

[02:38:32:15 - 02:38:39:27]

Nelson

Yeah, you absolutely have a- You instantly hate sitting here in somebody else's views before you've even heard them. You also have a new set of voters.

[02:38:39:27 - 02:38:43:03]

Javier

Yeah. Is that not what this is really about, right?

[02:38:44:08 - 02:38:50:19]

Javier

Because we all think that everything is about voting. It's about the elections and it's not. It's not.

[02:38:51:20 - 02:38:53:16]

Javier

Because I expect people,

[02:38:54:23 - 02:39:28:07]

Javier

regardless if I voted for them or not, to go to Washington, to go to Richmond, to go to Stafford County, whatever, this is based off of me, to do their jobs and it not be about just their upward mobility and skewing the scales to one side, right? Because once you get into a position of power, once the campaigning is done, you are in a realm to where, hey, now I have a responsibility to govern. It is a completely different experience.

[02:39:28:07 - 02:39:47:11]

Nelson

I'll give you, not really push, I'm not giving you pushback, but I'll give that argument pushback. Or if you only give a fuck about yourself in your household, just say that. Don't ride on the guise of this is for the American people. That's what pisses me off. Everybody tries to make it look like they're looking out for the bigger person.

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Speaker 6

Right, right.

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Nelson

When in reality, you're just looking out for yourself.

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Javier

But if that was, here's the thing. If people were more honest with themselves and if they were just looking after themselves, surprisingly, things would line up cohesively. Yes, I agree. It would. It would. If you knew that your taxes, that the middle class and upper middle class needed more of a tax break, the millionaires and billionaires, right?

[02:40:13:23 - 02:40:35:15]

Javier

Isn't that self-interest? Yes. But he has, he has fostered a cult that don't care nothing about that anymore, right? They don't care about their own pockets. It's not about that. It's not about that. They'll happily sacrifice their stability, little bit that they have. You're not that well off, MAGA.

[02:40:38:01 - 02:40:54:17]

Javier

And some of the things that they've enjoyed, some of the amenities in their lives that they've been able to enjoy. And the singers sticking to a script. In order to get to a country, to a vision that looks just like them, or it's strictly like them, right?

[02:40:54:17 - 02:40:57:23]

Nelson

They'll sacrifice that, right? The poor whites want everybody to be poor whites.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

When I said it out loud, that shit sound crazy.

[02:41:02:24 - 02:41:06:08]

Javier

Just think about it for a second though. No, but just think about it.

[02:41:06:08 - 02:41:11:26]

Nelson

Just think about it for a second. The poor whites want all the poor people to be white instead of just poor blacks.

[02:41:11:26 - 02:41:35:07]

Javier

Right, right. Or they need somebody else to look down on. Yep. Because they eat their own, they have classism, right? But if you need somebody else to look down on, right? And if I'm easily manipulated, then I can be convinced to forget the things that I need and want, and just be focused on looking down, oh, I'm not them.

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Javier

Yeah, I might be poor, but I'm not black,

[02:41:38:28 - 02:41:40:20]

Javier

right? Is that not the case?

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Javier

I think that eventually these folks are gonna wake up and be able to realize like, hey, I can't go out to really afford anything anymore. And I got kids.

[02:41:56:11 - 02:41:56:11]

(Laughing)

[02:41:56:11 - 02:41:58:05]

Javier

Right? If you care about your kids.

[02:41:58:05 - 02:41:59:10]

(Laughing)

[02:41:59:10 - 02:42:07:08]

Javier

If you care about your kids, right? Cause that could be a thing too. Like, I don't know. I don't know. It's just that the, I think that they are,

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Javier

God, do they need therapy. Yeah. They do.

[02:42:12:25 - 02:42:17:23]

Javier

Everything about them is so insular at this point. And so much inside of a bubble.

[02:42:20:05 - 02:42:23:02]

Javier

I'm here for the content. Nothing else is penetrating. I'm here for the content.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Let's get to the last topic because we've been holding off on this one for a minute and I got to get my shit off as a DC baby.

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(Sighing)

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Speaker 6

Uh oh.

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Nelson

In DC, Trump pulled a hostile takeover of the Capitol. Called it a crime emergency while crimes at a 30 year low. Federalized the police, dropped 800 National Guard troops on the mall and cleared homeless camps like they were speed bumps. The mayor's chief got benched, then reinstated after lawsuits, but the message was loud. Your autonomy don't matter if the feds want their photo ops. Protest a riot. When the president claims your city like a monopoly piece, how much should the people turn up?

[02:42:59:00 - 02:43:04:22]

Javier

I'm going to meet a riot. I'm giving you the extra. I am going to meet a riot with a riot.

[02:43:05:25 - 02:43:16:26]

Javier

Right? Because this is a riot. This is a show of force. He's already doing it. Yeah. This is a show of force. He's a bully. He's trying to show his strength.

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Javier

But I was really supposed to start this by saying, no taxation without representation. You know the license plate. If you're from the DMV, you know what's going on. Right?

[02:43:29:10 - 02:43:31:05]

Javier

The District of Columbia should be a state.

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Nelson

Agree. That's where we should start first. I agree. Because he's not pulling this shit

[02:43:36:04 - 02:43:40:24]

Javier

with- You can't easily pull this shit with a state. With a state. Right? Yes.

[02:43:42:07 - 02:44:03:01]

Javier

Against the wishes of the California's governor. He didn't do that. Right? But that's not normal. That was the test run. That's right. But it's not normal. Right? So you're right. He is testing the waters. Right? But in a normal situation, because again, I have the capacity to think beyond Donald Trump when he's long gone. Right?

[02:44:04:08 - 02:44:13:20]

Javier

Who's going to be the next person that thinks that they can come in and do something like this? Right? Who's the Donald Trump smart 2.0? Yeah. Right? That can come in and

[02:44:13:20 - 02:44:18:03]

Nelson

have already- God, that's going to be a bad time in America. We hit the conversation with Donald Trump 2.0.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah. That's Lucifer.

[02:44:22:27 - 02:44:23:08]

Javier

Real talk.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Is that not the Omen? Yeah.

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Nelson

I mean, you spin.

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Javier

I ain't going to put that on Trump, but the him 2.0 is a- Say it himself.

[02:44:36:21 - 02:44:45:05]

Nelson

From all your favorite movies. Every representation of Lucifer you can ever see on television and or movies. That's Trump 2.0. That's the Omen 3.

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Javier

He was a diplomat.

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Nelson

Renning is going to be the Lucifer from "Ghost Rider," but also the Lucifer from "Constantine," but also the Lucifer from "Lucifer."

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Javier

You ain't just the Christian Lucifer. You the Buddhist Lucifer, you everybody Lucifer. This is the second coming. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Cause that's a scary thing to think about, but that's how we need to be thinking. Yes. Right?

[02:45:10:07 - 02:45:14:18]

Nelson

This one, this one, this one, this one. Yeah. This is a strong riot.

[02:45:15:25 - 02:45:33:15]

Nelson

Because there's so much that goes through my head about like what this means. And like I said, it started with the immigration. It started with the National Guard in California, and now we're here. Now he's tested what he can get away with. Trump has told y'all, told y'all on camera, he's not against the porting citizens.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Javier

Let's, it's sequential.

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Javier

Let's redefine the 14th Amendment.

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Javier

Let's not count everybody in the census.

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Javier

Right? Let's skew the numbers from vital statistics and labor statistics. Let's create a reality, right? That you have no choice but to buy into. Right? And once I get there, maybe even I can start redefining

[02:46:07:00 - 02:46:09:22]

Javier

who's obviously a citizen in this country.

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Nelson

And that's my problem.

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Nelson

Y'all keep thinking, I think Trump is racist. And I don't think he's racist. I think the foundations that be in his ear, heritage,

[02:46:20:27 - 02:46:27:22]

Nelson

are racist. I think what this is, is just a ginormous long-term plan to kick black people out of DC.

[02:46:27:22 - 02:46:33:07]

Javier

If he don't care about anybody but himself, he damn sure don't care about black people. And again, I'm not saying this is,

[02:46:34:07 - 02:46:37:02]

Javier

he's directly targeting black people, but it works for him.

[02:46:37:02 - 02:47:17:11]

Nelson

I think this is a- It works for him. You say that I think this is a direct target towards black people. I think the population in DC, this is the capital of the country. Like, I'm kind of going like racial conspiracy theory, brain energy here, but not really, because just the facts line up. Where it's like now you, so we already know DC is what? 43, what'd I say? 43% black, 39% white. This is Pete Hegst's words. The capital has to be a representation of the rest of the country. The rest of the country is 60% white. Right. What they want is DC to be a representation of the country. Right. You want DC to be 60% white.

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Javier

It is crazy.

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Javier

DC was already kind of going through this, through gentrification, right? My favorite word when it comes to DC. Those who know who know. Listen, we're from the DMV. This is the area we grew up in. We know that DC looked a lot different back when we were kids than what it looks now. There were areas in DC that you absolutely could not go to, right? Now those areas are multi-million dollar condos.

[02:47:48:28 - 02:47:49:28]

Javier

Right there in the water,

[02:47:50:28 - 02:47:52:16]

Javier

southeast, right there by the stadium,

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Javier

multi-million dollar condos.

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Javier

So if there was already going in this direction and you know you have the fact that violent crime is gonna be going down for 30 years, right? For 30 fucking years. What?

[02:48:04:28 - 02:48:06:29]

Nelson

It was at an all time low this year. Is the point.

[02:48:08:20 - 02:48:09:13]

Nelson

This is a show of force.

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Javier

It is. This is an intimidation factor. The point is exactly to what we just explained.

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Nelson

You know, it's funny, I've been talking to a couple people and the amount of money these motherfuckers are making. Yeah. On these orders to DC. Yeah. Crazy. But now it makes sense that 150, what, $150 billion,

[02:48:26:18 - 02:48:28:20]

Nelson

even though National Guard is state funded.

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Javier

Were you trained, you're in the military, right? We both are. But let me ask you personally, were you trained in law enforcement? At all. No. Majority of us are not trained on law enforcement, right?

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Nelson

Sending the National Guard-- What's the problem why sending Marines to California was crazy? It makes no sense.

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Javier

Yes. It doesn't take down the crime. It, if you thought, if I thought for a second it would take down the crime, I'd have to take a second look at it. But it doesn't,

[02:48:58:11 - 02:49:24:18]

Nelson

it doesn't. All it does is, see my problem with it as a military bound person, somebody just been a part of the military for fucking my entire life. There was never a time in my life where I wasn't on track here. So for somebody like that, I've been a military brat my whole fucking life. And then I'm watching this shit. All I know is this leads to, while you're making us seem like the bad guy. You're making the United States military seem like the bad guy. Where to a point it's gonna get to where

[02:49:26:17 - 02:49:33:26]

Nelson

the thank you to, thank you for your service is gonna start turning-- Ooh, you might be hit on some right now. It's turning into fuck your service. Ooh, all

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Javier

the popular institutions in America that are left, military,

[02:49:39:19 - 02:49:49:05]

Javier

it was maybe religion, that's down. But also institutions of the government who put out statistics. Yes.

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Javier

If you're purposely taking everything that's popular left in America institution wise down, right? Then it's like, I don't have my faith in anywhere. Then yeah, I can easily just turn my sights to, oh, well, fuck it, we here now, right? Yeah.

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Javier

He's in power, whatever. Let me just cater towards whatever it is that authoritarian government-- Because I don't have a choice. Because I don't have a choice.

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Nelson

That's what it's gonna be.

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Javier

And I can't rely on any other institution.

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Nelson

Yep. Whether it be for your reason of trust or just for the reason of like how that other institution directly affects you. Yeah. This is a bad one. And again, it comes because one of the things that you're doing is you're making the military seem like the bad guy. These motherfuckers are just patrolling the street. They don't know what to do. Yeah. Because again, we weren't trained in law enforcement. And even the security forces, the small umbrella of National Guard people that were trained in that for the MPs, for the army and for the Marines. Like a lot of them aren't trained in civilian like law enforcement. They're trained in foreign fucking foreign citizens

[02:51:01:28 - 02:51:08:03]

Nelson

law enforcement. Right. So for here, it's like these motherfuckers are walking up and down the street. They don't know what to do. They just gotta say hi to the people. Yeah.

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Javier

Trust me, if that's me, I'm concerned about, yo, what we eating for lunch?

[02:51:14:27 - 02:51:14:28]

(Laughing)

[02:51:14:28 - 02:51:16:00]

Nelson

Who's making the run?

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Javier

Right, right, right. Yo, we in DC now.

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Javier

Chick-fil-A, we ain't gonna go to Chick-fil-A. You know what I mean? All these places. Chick-fil-A, yeah. Wild as hell. All these places, man. You know that one person that's from DC or-- Talk about, hey, you gotta go to the spot with this. Sorry, not exactly from DC, from Maryland or Virginia, but like, yeah, we know DC so well, right? That's the type of person that's like, yeah, man, we know all the spots, right? Yeah, yeah, you wanna go to make, you wanna go to Parker 14? Nah, nah, that's for tourists, bro. I got you, I got you.

[02:51:47:08 - 02:51:53:27]

Nelson

Which is crazy because all the locals be at Parker 14. I know, I know. Especially for brunch. It's unavoidable.

[02:51:53:27 - 02:51:54:15]

(Laughing)

[02:51:54:15 - 02:51:56:12]

Javier

It's really unavoidable.

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Nelson

Yeah. But yeah, this one's bad. And I think I severely think it's racially driven. I severely think this is a cleanup to get. We need to get this capital looking more like what we want. This is the Make America Great Again plan. This is, okay, let's start with the homeless people, but also let's start putting these people in the city. And you said it's a state of emergency for crime. What you're going to start doing is pulling up on random houses and saying, we heard this was a crack house, everybody clear out. Yeah. And you're just gonna start cleaning up neighborhoods like that. What the National Guard don't wanna do is go down Martin Luther King Boulevard.

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Javier

Without oversight.

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Nelson

They don't wanna go down Martin Luther King Boulevard.

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Javier

Without oversight and governance from the elected DC council, the DC council who appointed that police commissioner, that you just removed. The home rule. That you just removed in order to instore the DEA director,

[02:52:54:00 - 02:52:56:10]

Javier

a commissioner. Come on, y'all.

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Nelson

This one's bad. Like we don't see what you're doing. This one's bad. Yeah, no, no, no, no. The fact that it's called the DC takeover is fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah. This one, this one, this, this boils my blood. And again, it's not just because I'm a DC baby, but it's also because I'm a military affiliated. It's also because I'm a DMV resident. It's because like this area is my life.

[02:53:18:01 - 02:53:18:27]

Speaker 6

I grew up here.

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Nelson

So to watch you bring in the National Guard, because like DC used to be the place where you're like, no, you don't go there. You don't go there at night and stuff like that. DC is not what it was. Yeah, no, not even close. Like it's, I hate this one.

[02:53:35:10 - 02:53:36:04]

(Laughing)

[02:53:36:04 - 02:53:36:28]

Nelson

No, yeah.

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Javier

I hate this one.

[02:53:39:11 - 02:53:42:22]

Javier

Got like two or three major farmer's markets in DC now.

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Speaker 8

You out of your mind?

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Javier

You know what kind of place you have when you got like thriving farmer's markets?

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Javier

Come on now. You think they was running farmer's markets back in the day in DC?

[02:53:55:04 - 02:53:55:29]

Javier

Come on now.

[02:53:57:05 - 02:53:57:05]

(Laughing)

[02:53:57:05 - 02:54:01:15]

Javier

That's silly to me. Yeah, this one irks me.

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Nelson

Yeah, this is bad. And again, people think I'm being a little fucking crazy. Again, people thought I was crazy when I talked about project 2025 four years ago. They thought I was crazy back then. And then project 2025 started happening. And they was like, you know, I mean, there's some similarities. And then we got up to 46% and they was like, okay, this kind of seems a little bit more realistic. I'm telling you guys, this is the re-sculpture of America where like the white people say, and not all white people, but the man-aid sapiens, like the man-aid sapiens say, we just want a country that looks more like us. Yeah. That's what they're aiming for. I'm telling you over the next four years, you're gonna watch that percentage of racist change in DC.

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Javier

Yeah, you listen.

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Speaker 8

Clip it.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Fucking clip it. If you want to eat your food without seasoning.

[02:54:51:22 - 02:54:53:21]

(Laughing)

[02:54:53:21 - 02:54:56:26]

Nelson

You can go to the greatest capital in the country.

[02:54:59:02 - 02:55:01:10]

(Laughing)

[02:55:01:10 - 02:55:06:15]

Nelson

Y'all. Where the lunches have nothing but mayo, salt and pepper.

[02:55:06:15 - 02:55:07:20]

(Laughing)

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Javier

I just love DC so much.

[02:55:09:20 - 02:55:11:24]

Nelson

Mumbo sauce is about to disappear.

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Javier

Real talk, DC has taught me so much. It really has. To see what it's going through right now

[02:55:20:20 - 02:55:21:27]

Javier

is definitely a riot for me.

[02:55:21:27 - 02:55:24:17]

Nelson

Yeah, this one's definitely a fucking show.

[02:55:24:17 - 02:55:31:04]

Javier

You can do this when it's unnecessary, but where were you when January 6th happened? When you were still the president?

[02:55:31:04 - 02:55:33:21]

Nelson

You mean when it didn't have power to send a national guard to DC?

[02:55:34:28 - 02:55:35:25]

Javier

But now you have it.

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Nelson

Conversations they're not ready for. Now you have it. It's Nancy Pelosi's job. Nancy Pelosi's the one that's sending them to DC right now. Yeah. Because it was Nancy Pelosi's job during January 6th.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy because y'all don't even believe that. You just

[02:55:51:00 - 02:55:59:26]

Nelson

want, like he said, you just-- I don't know how they're not acknowledging that. That's my problem. It's like you knew that the national guard should have been out there January 6th. They don't have to acknowledge it.

[02:55:59:26 - 02:56:20:05]

Javier

They don't have to acknowledge it. They don't have to give in to what we're saying. They don't need to give us a point. They don't need to concede a point to us. All they need to do is sit back and enjoy what's going on right now, right? But I will be paying attention to those who end up taking their Trump signs out of their yards.

[02:56:20:05 - 02:56:21:01]

(Laughing)

[02:56:21:01 - 02:56:22:23]

Nelson

Yo, no, bullshit.

[02:56:23:25 - 02:56:23:29]

(Laughing)

[02:56:23:29 - 02:56:25:10]

Javier

I will be paying attention.

[02:56:25:10 - 02:56:29:26]

Nelson

You black Republicans have voted for Trump, but you got like Hispanic wives, ooh.

[02:56:29:26 - 02:56:31:20]

Javier

I will be paying attention, right?

[02:56:31:20 - 02:56:34:13]

Nelson

That's a shot and nobody understood that shot unless you're close to me.

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Javier

I just want to know what the barometer is for too far. Right? Too far. Because it wasn't far enough when he first came out that escalator, right?

[02:56:45:01 - 02:56:47:00]

Javier

It wasn't too far when,

[02:56:48:20 - 02:56:51:21]

Javier

you saw how messy that damn election season was. That was crazy.

[02:56:52:27 - 02:56:57:13]

Javier

That was crazy. I thought for sure. I was like, ain't no way she can't win this.

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Javier

And I said, hey, no way.

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Nelson

I'm telling you, the media apparatus, and that's why previously I said which one was that I said it was right, that you gave protests, and I said it was right because I could see the media spinning this.

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Nelson

Fuck me. Hold on, I got it.

[02:57:20:14 - 02:57:35:29]

Nelson

Oh, the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's because of that spin. The media apparatus, you have to watch the media. It's all about what the narratives are spitting. You're all about what the narratives are saying. People at the end of the day, they're going to believe what they hear from their reliable source.

[02:57:35:29 - 02:57:46:26]

Javier

I just, again, when I say next step, I need to see that this next director comes in and suspends the monthly job support. It goes to a quarterly.

[02:57:48:05 - 02:57:57:15]

Javier

I need to see that. I need to see it because if I see it, I know that Republicans in Congress are seeing it. And I'm just like, okay, right?

[02:57:58:18 - 02:58:01:00]

Nelson

Again? But they'll bend the knee every time.

[02:58:01:00 - 02:58:04:20]

Javier

A good portion of Congress is not running for reelection. Did you know that?

[02:58:04:20 - 02:58:05:22]

Nelson

No, I didn't know that.

[02:58:05:22 - 02:58:07:18]

Javier

Not a Republican is not running for reelection.

[02:58:10:13 - 02:58:10:19]

Javier

Well,

[02:58:11:24 - 02:58:21:19]

Javier

what do you get in return? You get, in a lot of cases, a more... Trump-esque. A more dedicated Trump supporter, right?

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Javier

Or not. I'm just saying that's a sign, right? It's because now it's like, damn, I don't really want to be a part of this anymore. Like this fame or whatever.

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Nelson

We don't have a choice. We're running to process a delay.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

Think about that. Members of Congress saying like, I just don't want any part. I don't want any part of this anymore. And then pay attention to what they do afterwards. Do they move to Russia?

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Or do they move to a place that's more democratic or more liberal, for real?

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Because- I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Korea's not more democratic.

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Javier

Because deep down, they're like, y'all can't do this anymore. I think the act, the jig is up.

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Javier

I can't do this anymore. I've been ostracized. I don't have any friends anymore. Like it's taken a, they're human at the end of the day, right? It's taken a toll on them. Human like white people or human like black people? Human like shit, damn. They're not cyborgs.

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Speaker 8

What's that, chat TBT? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

And you better come up with the right answer or you're getting canceled.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

No, they will shut chat TBT. If I put that prompt there right now, and they come up with the wrong answer, chat TBT is done. We go into the next, it's Nipper GPC.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah, this was, this DC Tinko-ism arrived for me. And I do think it's, I'm telling you, I think it's severely racially motivated. And I don't think this is a Trump idea. He's a fucking, say what you want. Trump is a fucking Democrat from New York. The fuck does he care about a Republican ideology in DC?

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Javier

He only cares about his bottom line. He only cares about, he only cares about himself. The donor class.

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Nelson

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

If that, he don't really care about you. It's your money. If you could just shut up and give your money, that would be good for him. He would appreciate that.

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Nelson

Yep.

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Nelson

Yeah, so that's a ride for me.

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Javier

It's a ride for me.

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Nelson

That's all I got. We hit our topics. You got anything else for the not NDA signers before we get out of here? You already monologueed, so.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I should, man. I should have came up with a monologue for y'all, man.

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Nelson

Y'all the real ones. I will do that next time. There we go. Episode three, I will do the closing monologue for the Patreons. Okay, okay. Because that can be a lot more unhinged.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nelson

And then, yeah. But yeah, just,

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Nelson

I'm on the same energy I was last time. Seat belts on, your hard hat on. Like, you ain't really got nothing that was holding you in place right now, except for the G-Force.

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Nelson

Glue you to your seat as you speed run through this. Because this fucking eight months has felt like a year and a fucking half. It has been the longest presidential run I have ever seen. And to know that I still have three and a half years of this shit left is crazy.

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Javier

I started the year with

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Javier

a fully dark and black beard. I'm starting to get grays on my beard now.

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Nelson

Crazy. Been there, done that. And I just got a haircut, so. The grays is definitely showing right now. My dad said I got a gray streak coming across, I mean, that

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Javier

skunk trail. By episode 10, I'ma be fully gray.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

I think you're gonna be like, "Oh, Obama." I'ma be, I'ma be. Started off with Obama, went into the office, it ends off when Obama came out office.

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Javier

I'ma be fully gray. I'ma be fully gray. This shit is stressful.

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Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah.

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Nelson

And then having to keep up with it day in and day out, just like, it's so, and this is what I originally stated up with this podcast. I don't want it to be an anti-Trump podcast. I want it to be a news and politics podcast, but, or in general, news and politics. But it's just really hard to talk about any of the federal news that's going on without including Trump in it, because this guy is just.

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Javier

He's where he wants to be, he's the center of attention. And whether that's good attention or bad attention, he don't give two dams.

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Nelson

Hey, publicity is good publicity.

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Javier

Oh, publicity is good publicity.

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Nelson

And Kanye.

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Nelson

So for our non-indian signer.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

What'd you say? I said, "N Kanye."

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Nelson

All publicity is good publicity.

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Javier

Yeah, that's your boy still though, right? Now that's my boy. Hit man Marco. That's crazy.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Anything else for the NDA signers before we get out of here?

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Javier

No, just look, stay moisturized.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Drink water, meet Josh Bell. Drink water, and I don't know, pay attention like I told you before. Like I'm gonna keep telling you. Because, you know, God forbid something happens that you really don't like, because now it ain't caught up to you. The Epstein files?

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Intro

Sorry, I'm so sorry, I got.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Yeah, and then, you know, you get called stupid for caring about it, called you stupid. But last time you've been called stupid, other than from like somebody.

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Nelson

From me.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Or somebody that went to college, you know.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

I don't care what people went to college said, you know. That type of person, right? You know, you know. The last person that probably called you stupid was your parents.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Right, and they were stupid themselves, right? But you continue to cycle, right? And you don't have an excuse because everything's at your fingertips now, right? You can choose to go look at the truth, and I promise you that it's going to work out for you. It's gonna help you be a better person, right? If you give a shit about being a better person, because some of you don't. That is important. But if you do care about being a better person, and you don't necessarily care about what's going on around you, because it hasn't affected you yet, stay tuned.

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Nelson

Because we'll be here to cover it. Stay tuned.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

To you not NBA signers, this is the part where we bid you adieu. You paying niggas.

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Nelson

Thank you for joining us on episode two of To Protest the Right. We say peace to you. All right.

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Nelson

Somewhere I read of the freedom of press.

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Intro

Somewhere I read that the greatness of America is the right to protest for right.

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(Upbeat Music)

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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intro

He should catch on fire.

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(Mumbling)

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Episode 1: Big Bills and Bigger Lies

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Nelson

If the governor said nah, but the feds still flew in the military like LA through a coup, is that public safety or just white America's favorite party trick when too many black people start marching?

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Javier

If Trump's big beautiful bill is so great, why does it read like a hit list for poor people wrapped in gold leaf, slashing Medicaid while flashing military checks? Is this fiscal policy or Jim Crow with a spreadsheet?

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Nelson

Why do the Epstein files keep dropping like mixtape teasers? No track lists, no names, just vibes and redactions. Democrats keep dodging the topic, Republicans keep pretending they're not on the list. Who's actually going to open the damn envelope?

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Javier

If the plan was no new wars, why are we bombing Iran like it's a sequel nobody asked for? And if the president posted every move on Truth Social before it happened, did we launch an attack or did we just give him a heads up and a head start?

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Javier

This is the state of the world. We're just here to ask.

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Nelson

Is it time to protest?

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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intro

It should catch on fire.

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Nelson

God I've missed that opening. Welcome to episode one of two protesters to write podcasts. Your favorite take on news politics and cutting out the bullshit and just giving you the facts but then our opinions on the facts. I am your host Nelson joined with my co-host

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Javier

Javier Ponzela aka Javier Ponzela. Black Republican.

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Nelson

I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

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Nelson

Because I've been calling a lot of niggas Republicans.

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Javier

Now let's keep the rules up.

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Javier

Because you know that was that was Colbert's whole thing keeping up that rules when he was the Cobra show.

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Nelson

Yeah, just to piggyback off what the like the Daily Show was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or oppose what the Daily Show was in a sense.

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Nelson

Yeah, your favorite news and politics podcast. We are finally back hitting a little bit more thoroughly.

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Nelson

Our second go around on this podcast.

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Nelson

If you missed episode zero, that's cuz you're not a patron. Subscribe to Patreon at yccentertainment.com slash yccentertainment for as low as $1 you can get the extended audio because after 60 minutes we are saying bye to you not NDA signers and giving our last takes on the rest of the topics that we got lined up on a patreon only so subscribe as low as $1 a month and you can't get anything in America for a dollar these days.

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Nelson

I think it's even a dollar after tax. I think it's literally just $1.

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Javier

Oh, they charge you tax only a dollar.

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Nelson

Yeah, only $1 $5 get you extended audio. I mean extended video and any Patreon exclusives that we may drop in the future because that will happen because cancel culture. Sometimes we really want to get something off. We'll just have to make it a Patreon exclusive. So yeah, patreon.com slash patreon.com slash yccentertainment or just check us out on the website yccentertainment.com.

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Nelson

That's enough plugs. Well, no, I'm on a different podcast. I can plug other podcasts.

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Nelson

Fuck me.

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Nelson

Did you plug yours already? Yeah, I was going to but then I realized that I didn't put the pictures up.

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Nelson

I'm gonna cut right here and then I'm gonna uncut right here.

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Nelson

Back to it back like I never left.

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Nelson

So yeah, since we're on two protesters to write shout out our sins of wolves. I can plug my other podcast up to episode 105. Make sure you check it out on all streaming platforms and on YouTube. Shut up Blur Watch.

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Nelson

Your culmination of all your favorite nerd fandom,

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Nelson

black nerd fandom. Everything is blurred. Go watch it there. Pretty sure they got to do a bunch of reviews on Superman and fantasy four and all that stuff. You want to hear the latest on TV shows, comic books, video games and movies. Go to Blur Watch.

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Nelson

Shout out Line My Vibes. Greatest open mic.

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Nelson

Streamed on YouTube and arguably.

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Nelson

First shout out that's all I got.

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Nelson

Yeah. Can we talk about this late show being canceled next year?

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Nelson

I'm going to get straight into it.

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Nelson

I thought that was actually kind of crazy only because I'm more worried about what's going to happen. This is me for daily show.

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Javier

Uh,

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Javier

well,

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Javier

John still can do his own thing. I agree. But, um, but it's just going to be a, it's going to be a domino effect, a pattern. Yeah. People just kind of giving in to King Trump.

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Javier

King Trump. And places and corporations that historically have, you know, dealt with mainstream, you know, mainstream media and now that are going to, but that's, you know what? He wants a better edit, right? He's willing to use the justice department and everything in his, in his arsenal to try to influence that. And it's,

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Nelson

it's, I think the craziest part is like, even with the CBS settlement, um, the reason why they said it was because they wanted to finish out that buyout of, I can't remember who the name of the person that was taking, um, uh, or who bought Paramount, but they were just like, sure, we'll pay this. What was the $16 million, uh, uh, settlement because the buyout was $8 billion. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, you take that little amount so we can finally sell this fucking company because we can't sell it if they have active court cases. Right. Um, but yeah, that has me severely worried about like, obviously, you know, they want to get rid of people like, uh, um, Stephen Colbert because he's obviously super critical about Trump.

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Speaker 7

Right.

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Nelson

And, uh, the company that's buying Paramount is super Trump friendly.

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Nelson

Right.

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Nelson

So this, this shit is in a game.

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Javier

He's using the justice department in a way that has probably never been used or probably since Nixon, honestly.

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Nelson

But see, here's my thing moving forward. I don't know what that means for like, um, you know, it's like, well, if Trump did it, then Democrats should be able to do it. But then doesn't Trump lose face for doing some of these things? So the Democrats do it. Then like we have to deal with, well, we didn't like when Trump did it. So why would the Democrats do it? He's like, you voted for the guy that did it.

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Javier

Can he ever lose face for anything? No, no, he can't. They're in a cult right now.

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Nelson

So I mean, the cult splitting because of the Epstein files. So conversation for later, but yeah, I gotta stop baby. One of these days. It's not gonna be today though. But yeah, the, the, the magnet department is splitting. And I think it's funny because they push so hard on, you know, the government needs to be upfront about what they're, what they're doing. And they need to be, uh, stop limiting what people say and stop privatizing what people say and stop putting blocks on everything. And it's like, bro, he's so in, what is he doing? Um, wall street right now. Uh, wall street journal. Yeah. Wall street journal for the, the leaked letter. Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

Anytime somebody goes against him, his motherfucker just starts trying to sue every

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Javier

time. And mind you, all of these organizations, uh, the thing that, that keeps this experiment working is that they maintain their independence.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Um, but that's just not the case anymore. And you're right. You are right to ask, Hey, like I know some of us can still can, uh, have the ability to see beyond four years, right? And be like, okay, what's going to happen after this? Right. And yes, I'm, I'm very concerned that a Democrat or Republican, right? Will come in and say, Hey, well, Trump did it, but you actually agree with me. So, um, just let me do all of these things. Trust me. Um, and everything will be okay for you. Yeah. Right. And it kind of defeats, uh, it kind of puts us in a realm of, uh, the president is no longer the president of the United States. Yeah. Or they're just the president of a certain group of people.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yes. And that that's what, and it's funny because like, at this point you were starting to realize that nobody is safe because wall street's not a like, well, she journals on a left leaning. Not at all. They are sitting right at best.

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Javier

No, that is, that is the perfect way to describe them. They are, they are not liberal. They are very much laissez-faire capitalism.

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Javier

That's who they are. Right. Yeah. Uh, yeah, that's, that's what they are. Nobody has a chamber of commerce type folk. I would know just, I'm waiting for Fox news. The cash stares.

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Javier

Cause he has a thing against Murdoch now. Yep.

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Nelson

And who was the, the, the reporter that Pete heads up, called out during the,

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Nelson

when she was like, are you sure you hit them? Are you sure you hit the, the target? I mean the targets because we're getting reports that this and that. And he was like, you are the absolute worst. That girl is she's a Fox news reporter. And he's calling off like nobody's safe, bro.

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Javier

Nobody's safe. I do. All right. Alex Jones about to be on the chopping block. And I know most of these folks listen to podcasts and all of that now too, but like Fox news is still the main source of news for conservatives. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if he's going to win that.

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Javier

Rupert Murdoch is a powerful dude.

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Nelson

Uh, see the thing is though.

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Nelson

Yeah. I don't, I don't see him losing them just because then who do conservatives go to for news first off, you, you create that, that, that rift, but also then Fox news looks super contradictory.

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Javier

It's a rift of here. Here's the thing. Fox news is an organization has an infrastructure, right? That can compete with Fox news. I don't know if they still are, but they were the number one, uh, news station. Yeah. And that's only because everybody else defies their news up between the other news sources, but yeah, so they have an infrastructure. So if somebody does try to come in and try to fill the, the, the, the void, Andrew Tate,

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Javier

is he going to have a national channel with the same infrastructure power and organization as Fox news. I mean, he got there once.

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Nelson

I'm kidding. I hope I educate doesn't fill the void of Fox news. That just also sounds like a crazy sentence to say out loud, but, um, uh, yeah, I don't know. But you see like the, the, obviously the grifters, Candace Owens, um, Alex Jones, uh, Joe Rogan, they're all kind of like, now they're double taken and they're asking questions and they're like, okay, this is a little crazy now and stuff like that. But those are grifters. So I can't really, but like Fox news isn't a grifter. They're a full on supporter.

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Javier

I don't want to hear anything from these folks.

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Nelson

You don't want to hear from Fox and friends.

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Javier

I'm talking about the grifters. Oh yeah. The Joe Rogan's and the, and the Candace Owens like, like no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to sit here and gaslight me. I know you were smart enough to know. I can't do it.

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Nelson

What she though protect their weight, man.

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Javier

Make them sandwiches like deep down, deep down. You know, she's more educated than that.

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Nelson

I think Candace Owens is extremely educated, but obviously there's a wave to hop on and she wants to hop on that wave.

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Javier

Yeah. Well don't, don't, you can't hop back off the wave now. Not this kind of way. Normally, normally a media person would be able to ride different waves, right? That was before now. Cause because of social media and the internet, you have a footprint.

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Nelson

Agreed. But people have short term mindsets. That's true too. That's true too. So that's why, that's why Trump thought he could just keep next thing, next thing, next thing. And then the Epstein files kept coming up. He thought he can just move on to the next one. People like, wait, hold on.

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Javier

Completely off topic, but related technology just moved way too fast with social media. And I think it's especially a bad formula for America because America loves a comeback story. Right. So that's all social media really allows you to do. Yeah.

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Javier

Imagine R Kelly,

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Javier

get beat up, make his

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Nelson

little comeback. But that out, that last time was dope.

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Nelson

55 minute good album. I'll say that.

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Javier

I will say we've always had this argument with people. I'm like, that man, there's nobody that can do a versus with him.

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Intro

I agree. Yeah.

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Nelson

I agree. But see R Kelly is watching all your favorite R and B artists and they fucking versus.

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Javier

But you see what I just did, right? So that's how it is. Right. The despite the heinous thing that a person does, right, you is always a chance for a comeback in America. But now social media just amplifies that,

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Nelson

you know, I don't know if America wants a comeback story or what that looks like for America. Like we reestablish our relationships with other countries like the country start to like us better because let's be honest, everybody realizes that when it comes to 45, 47, everybody wants to cater to them, make them rub his back and massage his feet and stuff like that. And I know other world leaders are kind of tired of doing that shit.

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Javier

But what if it gets them what they want? Because I've never seen I've never seen flattery on this level before. Like every you could tell that every other president, especially Barack, it was just respect. Yes. Right. Not flat. You didn't have to flatter him. You're the people in your country already did that. Yeah. Right. And I think that's a beloved world figure. This guy, like like even the secretary general of NATO, since tweeting those things about him and describing him like that, like what are you are you kissing up to you or the secretary general for you for NATO? Of all people. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that deep, my guy. Yeah. But here's the thing. Here's the flip side. If they all rely on on the funding and the and the structure of NATO NATO is huge. Right. So, yeah, I mean, if if you were the secretary general, would you? I don't know. Right. But see, but see, that's my thing. He's created a world now that this is even happen. This is happening in front of our face. Yeah. Like it's all about him. Nothing is about the people of this world, the people of America.

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Nelson

Reality is he doesn't give a fuck about you. I don't understand why he's taking us alone to realize this. All these excuses that you're making is not the case. So no, he cares about the people. No, he don't. I'm gonna fuck about. That's why I'm going to sit here and talk shit about him over the next four years on this podcast, because he doesn't think like people should be taken seriously anyway.

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Javier

So we can get away with later. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. And he doesn't. I he would sell his own kids. Yeah.

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Nelson

For another four years.

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Javier

No, seriously. But he would sell his kids for another four years. I stand on this with conviction.

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Javier

Him winning that election, he's not in jail.

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Javier

I mean, I truly believe he was going to get he was going to go to jail.

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Nelson

I still think he's going to go to jail if they can ever find a way to get him out because once you lose that power of being able to run again, if he can't run for a third term, you never know what America because sometimes you'll fall for stupid shit.

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Nelson

If he's able to run for a third term, get a little boy Joe. But if he gets out, I think you're coming for him because now you don't have any leverage.

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Javier

He cannot run for a third term. I hear what you're saying.

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Nelson

I hope he doesn't run for.

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Javier

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I don't know.

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Javier

He was. He would make it. His options are unlimited now, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

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Javier

I'm just showing everybody else because he was the real estate mogul in New York that nobody liked.

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Nelson

And this is Mr. Make a deal. And they made a fucking deal since he been in.

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Nelson

They made one deal since he been in. No. No. Yeah. And destroyed a bunch of other ones.

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Javier

Never seen. They just they just passed the bill to go back on the fund on funding. Yeah.

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Nelson

Hey, this is what I love. I love America's decision. I love democracy. Just what America voted for.

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Javier

Talk about not wanting to uphold a co-equal branch.

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Javier

A co-equal branch is responsibility.

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Nelson

I'm here for the content. Let's get into these topics.

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Nelson

The federal government flies in troops against the will of the governor just to paint protesters as violent and justify the crackdown. They militarize the optics, not the truth. Protest or riot.

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Nelson

And if you're if you're not completely aware of what we're referring to, this is in regards to the ice crackdown that's going on in California and the military mobilization on top of that. It was first the National Guard and the Marines went in. Yeah. The funny thing about that is I was talking to somebody who used to be a Marine and you know, TW.

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Nelson

Used to work with you. Me? Yeah. In my shop? Yeah.

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Nelson

He was talking about Houston Marine before.

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Nelson

OK. Ally.

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Nelson

He's the ally? The one I call Ally.

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Javier

Try not to name drop. He wasn't he he was a Marine. Yeah.

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Nelson

And he said he was around for I think the Philadelphia riots or something. OK. And that's when they were having the conversation of deploying the Marines. The Marines were like, yeah, let's go. Let's go to town kind of thing. It's like I'm just ready to shoot. Not like properly coordinate protesters down the right street. So in Washington, this whole thing happened with the whole Gavin News and saying like, yo, we don't want them here. And you have what the California, I mean, the L.A. Police Department is with the second biggest police department in the country behind New York City.

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Nelson

So they are trained thoroughly to like deal with protesters riots.

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Javier

The governor also has the power to mobilize the National Guard if he needs it.

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Nelson

Yes, correct.

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Nelson

The president can't do it without the governor's approval.

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Javier

And normally say for other than civil rights when I had to, you know, send a National Guard to Arkansas, right? Because they weren't.

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Nelson

I'd say slap Tina.

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Nelson

Just going to throw a button in there real quick.

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Nelson

That was my bad. I couldn't help myself.

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Javier

But say other than that time, right?

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Javier

Usually you respect the governor's wishes. Like they'll ask if they need help, but you normally don't need to overstep that.

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Nelson

Supercede them.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

This one is crazy because you're watching and like I feel like I feel like these Marines doing nothing but getting TDY bumps.

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Intro

TDY premiums.

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Nelson

All I got to do is watch ice. Do what ice is doing. Yeah. Yeah. And babysit.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

But then like you get to the point you worry about this and well, normal people would worry about this.

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Nelson

That the military start shooting at civilians.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

And then you run into that. You kind of like that pisses me off coming from a military background is me watching this military mobilize and it's like, bro, you're just giving them nothing but a reason I hate the military right now.

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Javier

It's a stunt. This man can't be consistent on anything. Yeah. Because how long was your response to January 6?

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Nelson

That was Nancy Pelosi's fault. You remember? He said he didn't have the power to deploy the National Guard. That was Nancy Pelosi's only Nancy Pelosi could do it. He lied. I know that.

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Nelson

He's a liar. He's a liar. I was like, wait, you was president during January 6. Why didn't you deploy now? I don't have power to. That was Nancy Pelosi's fault. Then why did you deploy the National Guard to California? God is it because Gavin Newsom's a soft ass.

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Javier

Wait, what? It is time for Donald Trump to take a nap.

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Intro

It

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Javier

is overdue. Take a nap, man. Oh my God.

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Nelson

Yeah. Super beauty.

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Javier

Just take some time off.

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Javier

I know the First Lady would appreciate that.

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Nelson

I'd be forgetting she exists. This is the most out of the picture First Lady I have seen in my entire life of watching President's President. Melania, right? Yeah.

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Nelson

See?

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Nelson

Not to forget her name. You see I called the First Lady.

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Javier

I ain't gonna mess up her name. I didn't want to mess up her name. I didn't want to mess up her name.

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Nelson

No disrespect at all.

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Javier

No disrespect at all.

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Nelson

Ivanka.

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Javier

Oh wait, that's the daughter. I almost called her Ivanka.

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Javier

But look, no disrespect at all because I know that it cannot be pleasant.

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Javier

Underneath that man.

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Javier

Wait. See what you did there. And I'm just talking about because it's an unky. It seems like an unequal marriage. That's what I was talking about.

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Nelson

You're talking about the hierarchy within a relationship. Yeah.

[01:22:54:09 - 01:22:57:22]

Nelson

Oh, I thought you meant like sexually under him. This

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Javier

is all my missionary. It could have been a double entendre. I definitely took it as one. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

Watching them show up to the park. That was crazy. It's like, bro, down the...

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Nelson

You gotta start realizing, not obviously 45, 47. You don't care. But as the people, you gotta start realizing that this is super problematic just off the strength of all of the leadership in the state of California are complaining about this. Mayors are coming out saying they're breaking up kids summer camps. And these checks for these illegal immigrants. And it's not like you and you advertise to us, you'll 45, 47, because I know you watch my podcast. You advertise to us that you were going to get rid of all these criminals. You were going to get rid of all these people that are coming out of here that illegally came into the country and then you're pulling up and chilling outside of Home Depot's in 7-Elevens.

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Javier

It's Game of Thrones. He literally just wants people to bend in the... He's Joffrey.

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Javier

California is the most liberal state.

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Javier

And it's also the fifth largest economy in the world. So Gavin, he sees Gavin Newsom as an opponent.

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Javier

He doesn't like the coverage he gets on, I don't know, TikTok, when they call him what daddy Newsom and all is. He wished that people were talking about him that way. And they're not.

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Javier

He California definitely wouldn't, but... Not Donald Trump. You know,

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Javier

who would though?

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Javier

Russia.

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Javier

Maybe. Y'all over there giving Putin a 90-some percent approval rate. That's crazy to me. That is crazy. Those numbers got to be wrong. Greg, you got

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Intro

to be wrong.

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Nelson

I don't know.

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Javier

I don't live there. I just know that they got to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm not going to be wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm conditioned. Nobody should ever get a 90-some percent approval rate. That's forced. That's forced. That's when you know there's no democracy.

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Javier

You mean to tell me you got a 90-some percent? I would have been pissed. You're looking for that 7%.

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Nelson

Oh my God. Don't get it. You're looking for that 7%. We're going to keep raising it.

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Javier

It would have been 100%.

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Javier

It would have been 100%. Trust me.

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Nelson

Jesus. Jokes on you. That was all the Ukrainians that lived in Russia that were voting against you.

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Javier

That 7% is the Ukrainians in Russia. And trust me, they do not have the same opinion.

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Nelson

But yeah, this is kind of like, it's obviously like it shows you where our president is at because I feel like why wouldn't you do this in Texas?

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Nelson

The number of illegal immigrants in Texas is through the rule. But since Texas is a red state, you don't want to play your hand there. But yeah, let's go out to California because it's one of the few blue states that have a high number of... I don't think he wouldn't do it though.

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Javier

Texas pissed them off, yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Because the point is, is nobody safe. None of you are safe. Texas will be the new Wall Street Journal.

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Javier

It sure will. Or the people that he described as being stupid. Yeah.

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Nelson

I know who you're talking about too. I cannot remember. It's on somebody. I was just watching it again this morning.

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Nelson

Because the bickering is out. He's bickering about this guy. Non-stop. Just calling him straight idiot. Don't know how to talk. Yeah. I can't remember the name though. Off the top of my head.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah. I would love to see him do that to a red state.

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Javier

I'd like to see it too. Did Florida vote blue this year? Absolutely not. Florida voted blue since Obama.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah. I was like, where they at?

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Nelson

Yeah. He got them in their pocket because of Alligator Alcatraz.

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Nelson

What?

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Nelson

Yeah. The prison he's trying to start in Florida.

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Nelson

This guy's... You didn't hear about that? No. Alligator Alcatraz? Yeah.

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Nelson

He's trying to basically copy... Where's he been sending all the legal and illegal immigrants? Alcatraz, right?

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Javier

Actual Alcatraz. Yes.

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Javier

Which hasn't been in commission in a while.

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Nelson

AI overview. The facility called Alligator Alcatraz due to the combination of its remote swampy location in the Florida Everglades and its association with the former Alcatraz federal penitentiary.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Alligator Alcatraz?

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

It's an immigration detention facility.

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Javier

He is purposely turning... And the swamps of Florida. Turning us into a joke across the world and here at home.

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Javier

Alligator Alcatraz.

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Nelson

Yep. This is announced in June 2025.

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Javier

Okay.

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Javier

So when we come up with the MAGA Alcatraz...

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Nelson

Nah, he's parting ways with MAGA right now.

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Javier

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's gonna be a MAGA. Oh, you say he gonna put MAGA in there? Yeah.

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Javier

He doesn't have to... Listen, also, here's the other thing.

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Javier

He legally can't run for president again. All saying that. Also...

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Javier

He's been doing a lot of illegal shit. Also doesn't that embolden him to be bold? If you know you can't run for president again, right? Wouldn't you just start doing a whole bunch of things that are just unprecedented, right?

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Nelson

Yes and no. Only because...

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Nelson

But the way he'll spin it at the end. Remember, let's not forget, 45's turn? Yeah. Didn't do shit. No, not really. Didn't get shit fucking done. Didn't pass anything. Didn't get anything done. A massive tax cut. That was it? Yeah. And then Sleepy Joe, as y'all like to refer to him as, came in. The infrastructure bill, the CHIPS Act. The CHIPS Act. Like all of this, all of these. And he had a losing fucking Senate.

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intro

Yeah.

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Nelson

Trump had a winning side and he still can't get shit passed.

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Javier

Biden came in with Kamala as just the deciding vote. That's tight. That's tight. Especially in the Senate, when you know they'll filibuster anything.

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Nelson

Yeah, not all Republicans have to vote and Trump can still get shit passed.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

But didn't get anything done in his first hundred days.

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Nelson

Yep.

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Nelson

Wait, hold on. He deported a lot of illegal immigrants. I mean,

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Nelson

citizens? I mean, I don't know.

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Javier

Yeah. It's like, what were they? What were they?

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Nelson

I don't know. Citizens, legal immigrants,

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Nelson

because that's what we're legal. So I don't know. You let them tell it. That's why. And you know what? I did say that leading up to this, they were going to like, they were never going to let what's the name come back? Kilimanjaro.

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Javier

Yeah, he's back now.

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Nelson

Yeah, I kept saying they're not going to let him back because he's going to have a story to tell.

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Nelson

And the defense of 45, 47, they played it very smart. They waited till they tried to compile such a case on him.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Before they brought him back. Yeah. Very smart and very fucking devious in every way, shape and form. But for this, for the sake of winning the game, that was a very smart play. Yeah. Oh, no, we can't bring them back. We can't bring them back. And then you bring them back at the flip of a dime. But it's after you've compiled a whole bunch of fucking bullshit about this guy. Yeah. Trying to say that he is this person and oh, we justifiably deported him after you initially said it was a mistake.

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Javier

It's crazy that the next person is going to have to come in and clean this shit up. Start. Spend four years cleaning this up. That part and also seeding back the powers to the other two branches. Supreme Court doesn't want to do anything that he put. He hired him. Yep. And Congress don't want to do anything.

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Speaker 8

Yep.

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Nelson

This midterm is going to be phenomenal.

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Javier

Yeah, it is.

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Javier

Just to let you know, historically, the opposing party always wins back.

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Javier

Usually. Yeah. I think hopefully it's a wave. Right.

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Javier

I want it to be to the point where they can overrule him.

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Javier

Oh, vetoes.

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Javier

I wanted to be one or two Republicans left in Congress. No, because serious.

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Javier

I used to be all for

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Javier

two healthy parties, blah, blah, blah. You know, everybody likes to position themselves as a moderate. Right. But in this moment right now.

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Nelson

I have never leaned so far left in my life.

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Nelson

You could put anybody in that left side. And I feel like, please

[01:32:40:08 - 01:32:45:25]

Javier

vote for this motherfucker. I'm like, it's time to determine what the new middle is. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. Yeah, we we in debt. This is something we have to address as a country because there is too many people that's like, I'm not far left. I'm not far. Right. And stuff like that. And it's like, if I put your shit in a supercomputer, it would tell me that you're MAGA or that you are socialist. Right. Right. There is no you're not as middle as you think. I'm sorry. That doesn't really that almost doesn't exist. You can't be Rand Paul anymore.

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Javier

I'm a libertarian.

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Javier

I'm a libertarian. OK, well, explain to me everything that he's doing right now. It has nothing to do with upholding your liberties. Yeah.

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Javier

You gave me a red ball. It really just sounds like more government conservative style.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Or Donald Trump style.

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Nelson

Donald Trump. Jay.

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Nelson

Donald J. Trump.

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Nelson

So, yeah, to this to the military mobilization, is that a protest? Is that a riot?

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Javier

It's a riot.

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Nelson

Yeah, it's a riot. That's a right. Please don't write because the Marines will shoot you. Well, it's a riot for me.

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Javier

If you're doing what you're supposed to do, if you got these people city permits, they didn't need the help.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah, it's not. And all I saw was a peaceful protest. That's all I saw.

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Nelson

Obviously now to to to to not just say the opinions and like call the bullshit out. Yes, obviously there are bad actors in every protest ever that just comes with the territory. Every protest can't be perfect. Sorry to say that's your reality check for right now. But but a majority of everything that was going on. And that's why I said when

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Nelson

45, 47 birthday happened, I gave a lot of respect to him in that moment. Look at you being such the opposition that you compiled the biggest protest in American history against your ass.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Nelson

Like every every major blue city was in fucking arms protesting to get you on your birthday weekend. I was out to you

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Javier

for for being the catalyst for that. I was in Biloxi, Mississippi, because I had to go do my extra training. I wanted for my new position. And we were down there. They were on we were doing base protocols. Right. And doing briefings because there were there were like people protesting in Biloxi, Mississippi. Yeah.

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Nelson

I was completely confused. Yeah, they were going around everywhere and just driving down 95. Like you see on the bridges and stuff, all the people holding out their signs and stuff like that, and obviously slows down traffic of everybody wants to see what the signs actually say. But like, yeah, you get a hunk out of me. Shout out to you all for exercising your first amendment.

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Javier

I said, is this Los Angeles, Mississippi?

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Javier

So

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Nelson

yeah, it definitely gets a riot out of me.

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Nelson

I mean, exercise your first amendment. Yeah, obviously there are bad actors. But I did like if you watched a lot of the footage that was going on during this, these protests that were going on in L.A., people were calling out the bad actors. Yeah, that was the shit I was loving. It's like, hey, police officer, this person is saying he wants to bomb this trash can and shit like that. And they were calling it out because that's what you have to do. Call out those bad actors when they're doing unnecessary shit.

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Javier

Listen, there's always an expectation for a turnt over trash can.

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Nelson

At least one, right? But one on fire.

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Nelson

You know what you're watching. Right, right.

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Javier

Come on. Don't please don't do that.

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Nelson

Yeah, you get not you get not go. You get one stop sign

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Javier

and one trash can. Even if it's one because the optics are just like the you know, the cameras are just going to be on that one trash that's burning. It's so, you know, depending on what news you consume. Fox News is going to be different angles of the same trash. Oh, my God, they were they were killing cops. And they just keep showing the burning trash can.

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Speaker 8

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

There he is right there. There he is. Who what? It's two days afterwards. What are you talking about?

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Nelson

It's just regular fires is going on. People are catching fires in their their kitchen. And they're like, look, the protesters are even sneaking into the houses and flooding people's kitchens on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's that same one house.

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Javier

Please call them out. Please call them out. Because the organizers was like, we weren't expecting that at all.

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Nelson

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was I thought that was phenomenal. Like for me to be as strongly against a lot of what 45, 47 is doing and to watch this be such a big protest in like a not violent, huge protest. Right. So again, bad actors are bad actors. But predominantly, there weren't that. This wasn't the Baltimore fucking tear down the streets type of energy. When the Rodney King, right?

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Javier

Yeah, this wasn't a Rodney King, right?

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Nelson

Come on. We see how bad

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Nelson

it can get.

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Javier

So don't let gas like.

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Nelson

Yeah, because I want another ready. King was no. I don't want that country wide either. No, no, I'm not ready for that.

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Javier

No, no, no, no.

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Nelson

I might be for the military. Just that's enough.

[01:37:55:00 - 01:38:00:23]

Nelson

So shit like that. Not the concept of the Rodney King rise, but the level of destruction. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

They keep dropping Epstein files like teasers with all the good stuff blacked out or both parties pretend they don't know a damn thing.

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Nelson

Are we protesting or rioting to the I actually fuck that. I riot to this whole Epstein files thing. I protest to it. Crazy work. I'm rioting to the shit. Only because I watched you motherfuckers for years and years and years beg the government to be open and transparent and say that the government needs to say tell us what they actually what their actual plans are and stuff like that. And they've been pussyfooting around these fucking Epstein files and.

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Nelson

The government as a whole, but obviously the Republicans are in charge, so they have to take the blame. Yeah. And I like blaming them.

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Javier

Listen, I'm healed now. I'm also I'm also older. I'm not. I'm also older. And I always ask myself, I said, you know, if I was living in the time with with the Monica Lewinsky Lewinsky case or whatever, would I still support it? Bill Clinton, knowing that, you know, I support I agree with him more than I agreed with Bob Doe, right?

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Javier

And the answer is yes, I don't. I'm I'm I'm I'm not putting people on a pedestal anymore. What I expect is professionalism in your career. Right. And I know that unfortunately or fortunately, however you will, you will look at it, that when you're a politician, your whole life is part of your career, right? It's all it's kind of intertwined. Right. But like I listen, I figured that they were doing some nasty stuff somewhere, right? Because what a bunch of power and money and society.

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Nelson

But my issue isn't against like it's obviously against the the politicians in a sense. But my bigger problem is with the people. Yeah. Y'all asked for this. And he told you he was going to give you this. And y'all said, look at this guy. He's so great. He's going to give us the Epstein files. Yeah. And he's now screaming at y'all and calling y'all idiots. Y'all, you may it's calling you idiots because you're still worried about the Epstein files.

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Javier

Listen, he also says he's going.

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Javier

Solve the war in Ukraine for day one. And I'm still waiting.

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Javier

He said he's going to he said he's going to make America great again. The first time still waiting. The first time.

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Nelson

Yeah, I know I'm holding him on this one. Well, no, I'm not really. I don't have high expectations. I never thought he was going to release the files, especially since there's too much controversy from him or too much controversy with him being in the file. You know why I know he's on it.

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Javier

You know how I absolutely know that he was he's involved because I know way in hell he would he's he's all he's always had a chip on his shoulder. He always wanted to be involved with high society. Yeah. Right. And secret organizations and things like of that nature. And they've never accepted him. They Donald Trump, they still don't accept you. Right. You are in a position of power now. Right. But they still they've never accepted you. And that that's been his chip.

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Nelson

That's crazy that this is probably the first president not in the cabal.

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Nelson

Sure.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

I just know I just know that he he was probably doing everything he could to be a part of the party. Yeah. You know, you know what I'm saying? You know, I got my little show of pictures now. You know, OK. All right. I wrote a book. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Epstein was just like, you know what? Come on.

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Nelson

What he says is Art of the Deal is this his second favorite book. Who said that?

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Javier

Trump was his first favorite book. The Bible says when that's what I say.

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Javier

You caught him on the right day, that's all.

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Nelson

He caught him on Sunday.

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Javier

He caught him on the right day because he definitely said in the interview, he was like, I never had to ask for forgiveness. Now, you know, that is like the foundation of Christ.

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Nelson

And I never had to ask. Never. What he really meant was I have never decided to ask for forgiveness. Because he's perfect. Yeah, he's perfect.

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Javier

But five forty seven.

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Nelson

Yeah, listen, it's so perfect. He skipped the number.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Javier

That was a voluntary.

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Javier

You lost.

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Javier

I don't care. You might have won this election. Which is a whole another conversation.

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Nelson

I won't even.

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Speaker 8

I won't even.

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Javier

That's all that I got. You want to know why? Because we're not you. We're not you.

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Nelson

Yeah. Now, I I want these files to come out. I want these files to come out because I kind of want. Well, no, I don't want the files to come out. But I want people to acknowledge that you said you were going. He said he was going to give you all the files and you all ran on. You all argue that this is the president who's not a part of the deep state. He's not a part of the swamp. He's he's the transparent guy. He's the different person. He's he's the outlier to every politician that was before. And now he's doing typical politician shit. So I want him to not release the files. And I want you all to continue to be mad about not releasing the files. Shit, I might actually protest to it.

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Nelson

To the the I protest to the release of the files.

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Nelson

But he's in the files.

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Javier

He's in the he was, you know, he's his little there's no shot. He's not in it. He was on a table.

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Javier

Twerking. I don't know. He's in them files.

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Javier

He was in the Epstein party and the freak off and the freak off. And you see, did he tell?

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Nelson

Did he tell you? Still doing he still had to do for transportation and prostitution. They didn't get him on the Rico. Yeah, they didn't get him. And I was mad about that because that was the one thing I thought they were going to get only. The only thing they really could.

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Javier

You know, Rico to be a freako. Yeah.

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Nelson

I know Rico to be a freako. But that was that was definitely a big of Rico. And he definitely should. He runs a fucking criminal empire. I don't care anybody says that.

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Javier

I mean, otherwise that man sent a text message to Trump's folks and say, listen here.

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Javier

You you worried about the Epstein file.

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Nelson

You need to be worried about the freak off list.

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Javier

Let's talk about where most of that baby oil went to.

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Javier

It was the day that you.

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Javier

Got your apprentice show.

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Nelson

But yeah,

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Nelson

that's. So yeah, I'll change that. I'll protest to the Epstein files being released because I kind of don't want them to be released. I kind of want you all to continue to be mad that you're not getting them.

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Javier

I'm not rioting over him, calling his own people stupid.

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Nelson

True.

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Nelson

Fair point.

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Javier

You want me to write over him, calling his own people, his supporters that die hard to cope with the coast. You know, now what? But what's your response?

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. I want to know their response. Yeah. Don't feel good, does it?

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Nelson

Hey, and that's what they like I said. The the who was the the the the the FBI had the the the FBI had in the.

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Nelson

The other guy, the the two guys that came on and basically said, you know, no, it's proven that he after they had all these conspiracies lined up, that that it was an inside job and they came on. It was like, yeah, we're disappointed. But, you know, it was actually something we would have came on and told you.

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Nelson

They're both fucking podcasters before. Basically. And they basically just sat there and said, you know, we found something in the in the FC files, we're definitely going to tell you and come find out. Though he committed suicide, like, motherfucker, we don't care about that. Care if he actually killed himself or he was killed. We care about whose names are on these lists. Right. Right. Yeah. Give us that information. And Pam Bondi. Whoa. Motherfucking Pam. Oh, yeah.

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Javier

They turn on you quick.

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Speaker 7

Yeah. They turn on you quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How you doing? How you doing? Come on.

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Nelson

Come on over here.

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Speaker 8

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. Come on over here. We got you. It was inevitable, though.

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Speaker 8

Right.

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Javier

Yeah. But but my God, what a stupid thing to to finally be like, oh, I'm putting my foot down, Donald Trump. Like it has nothing to do with your pocketbook.

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Javier

It has nothing to do with your civil liberties. And it just like my God, like what are things to really be like? Oh, I'm not with trouble. This one. You pick this.

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Nelson

You pick this. This was your turning point. The F-ing files.

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Javier

I want to know what else is it going to what else is there that you will like put your foot down on? Right. Because I know it's something very trivial. So what else?

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Nelson

Well, it feeds into the narrative. Obviously, like why would they be against anything related to their deportation? The the the the many sapiens are openly coming out and saying we want the immigrants gone because we want to see more people that look like us. They're openly coming out and saying something like that.

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Nelson

The the the poor people are to the poor maggots are too dumb to understand what the big beautiful bill is to go against it.

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Javier

I was just going to go there because they don't they they hurt you all. Yes.

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Javier

Make the rich richer and the broker. That's all this is going to do. I got some very unbiased numbers to present to you guys. Just just straight facts to

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Nelson

close out the last one. I give it a protest for the

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Nelson

for the Epstein files being released, because I kind of don't want them to be released. And also why would I riot against a man calling his own base stupid? Yeah, absolutely not.

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Javier

That's the best part of one thing we agree with.

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Nelson

We'll start to touch into the big beautiful bill and then we'll say bye to these nine NDA signers.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

You will tease them a little. Yeah.

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Nelson

What is the actual topic talking point? Hold on.

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Nelson

The big beautiful bill gives ice more money than schools, guts, Medicare and sets back every poor minority community it touches, all while calling itself a win for freedom. So yes, or riot.

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Javier

I do think this one is a riot.

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Javier

And I'm only saying that because I know that.

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Javier

There's a there's a certain

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Javier

newness to like, especially people in our community.

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Javier

And I think it's a direct reflection of the Affordable Care Act. They'll expand in Medicaid.

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Javier

These programs are not for you set up for you to stay on them a long time. There's they're good.

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Javier

Government assistance is not government funding.

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Nelson

Yeah, right. And to help you out of a situation, not right. Finance you for the rest of your life.

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Javier

Right. And it would allow you to take some risks like your counterparts are able to take risk. Right. Like, hey, like maybe I can take on this job that has little to no health insurance, but maybe I can move my way up. But guess what? Now I can shop on on on a marketplace like members of Congress. Yeah. Right. I have always been able to do. Yes. So this this this is a right. But and yes,

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Javier

the Medicaid cuts do disproportionately

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Javier

affect minorities because of

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Javier

that we have higher percentages who disproportionately or proportionally, disproportionately represent

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Javier

folks who are Medicaid. So yes,

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Javier

majority of people on Medicaid are white. That's number one. Right. I don't know why people for your percentage is so big. But it's a smaller percentage of white people are on Medicaid versus minorities. And that's where it hurts minorities the most. Yeah. But but you know, who's number one as when it comes to as

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Javier

it's proportional to their populations. So Latinos for Trump. Yes.

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Javier

Yes. I had to look at that. Yes.

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Nelson

I drink the net.

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Nelson

Latinos for Trump.

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Javier

Yeah. Yeah. And and and although although Kamala did still win majority of the Latino vote, right, it wasn't my lot. Yeah. And and and and and the point is, is that Democrats need that in order to win elections. Yes. Because listen, we're black. We only take up about 13, 14 percent. Of the whole entire country.

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Nelson

Correct.

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Javier

All right. So the Democratic Coalition is a group of different minorities. Right. And wealthy elites.

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Javier

So they don't really have a class. They don't really have a party. Right. But like, but you know what I mean. So if they if he picked off a large portion of Latinos for this past election, I it's very possible that he won this legit. Right.

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Javier

But yeah, it's just this is the wake up call. Yes, hopefully for.

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Nelson

But won't be because people won't notice it until after it starts to take effect. Sure. And I will I give now, obviously, I'm Trump's biggest critic. So I but I give credence to like if I was a bad villain or if I was a good villain, I would I understand why he does the thing he does. And a lot of this, the problem with this is he's he's probably one of the most effective presidents we've ever had to date. As far as everything he does has an immediate effect. And I don't mean efficient. I don't mean good effect. I just mean effective.

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Javier

Well, well, a lot of stuff he did, he bypassed Congress for. Correct. In this this executive order is a gray area. Yes, we all need to understand it is a gray area. Right. But it's gray area, especially when you have a healthy court or judiciary branch that's able to be like, hey, we're going to put a stay on things. Right. Until Congress either figures it figures it out or we decide that it's you're overstepping your constitutional responsibilities. But Congress just said now

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Javier

that these courts don't get to put a stay on on on a lot of this legislation that that it has to be was it. They're basically saying that it they'll do each one individual every time they sue. So.

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Nelson

And that's my argument about why he's the most effective is just based off the fact that like everything he does has an immediate effect. And it's like, you know, usually with presidents, when you do one thing, it takes time for it to like show its growth or show its effect or anything like that. Everything Trump does has an immediate effect to the point that's like, again, how was the Epstein files? Your turning point. When you've seen everything this guy has done over his his first 90 days. He threw us in fucking chaos.

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intro

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. In his first 90 days and didn't get anything accomplished in his first 90 days. Yeah. People were talking about I give him a A and I give him a A plus or a give him a B plus. No, that fucking gets her F. She crashed the stock markets in the first 30 days. What are we talking about?

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Javier

Shout out to Jerome Powell. He's the Fed chair. Yo. So the people understand. That's who it was.

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Nelson

That's who he's been bickering about. Calling him stupid. Yeah.

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Javier

By the way, he appointed him.

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Intro

Yeah. That's why it's so funny.

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Javier

Jerome Powell, for the most part, has been

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Javier

he has been pretty much what you would say your typical Fed chair. Right. Subscribing to that way of thinking about this. This fact that we they think that we have to have a certain amount of unemployment in this country or to call it good employment. Right. I don't call it good employment to everybody who wants a job as a job. But that's that's the difference. Right. But this guy has been he hasn't really made no noise. He's not necessarily conservative or liberal. Right. He put this guy in the place and he's saying that based off of what he is seeing and I guess the board of governors of the Fed. Right. Yeah.

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Javier

They're not they're not trying to raise or lower interest rates. Yeah. And that doesn't make Donald Trump look good. So that's why he's pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. Because because because guess what we are we are in the housing crisis right now. Yes. Right. We are in the housing crisis right now and

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Javier

the numbers that are going to make him look good are going to be people purchasing homes, people being able to borrow and take chances, take risk or whatever. But it's not happening.

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Nelson

I mean, and OK, bad villain mode.

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Nelson

And I'm not justifying anything that Trump does. Again, I'm just looking at it from the bad villain mindset.

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Nelson

If you give all these tax cuts to richer people and they start buying a lot of houses and renting them out and stuff like that, obviously that becomes problematic because now they kind of start to control the market. But also now you can use that as excuses like, OK, now I'm giving these tax cuts to all these bigger people that are buying all of these houses and stuff like that. But hey, we're selling houses. Houses are people are buying houses now.

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Javier

He he he would be able to do whatever he wants. Yeah.

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Nelson

And be able to get away with it.

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Javier

If only if only he he had the support of the middle and upper class. Agreed. Because because usually those are ones who financially hurt the most. I mean, obviously, if you if you're poor, obviously, there's nothing worse than being poor. But like I'm talking about just the financial.

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Nelson

And that's where he's losing his biggest grip on it. It's the middle class. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, the rich is going to appreciate. Shit, I'm a business owner. I understand. I'm always going to utilize everything that is in my power. That's usually why I like how we say on a state level, I might vote Republican. Because that usually directly affects how much my business can pull in, how much I can write off in taxes and stuff like that. But so for the rich people, they're probably like, tax cuts. You know, cool.

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intro

Yeah.

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Nelson

Politicians are probably liking it. That's why they're signing off on it and stuff like that. And I hate to say it as negative, as negative like this, but.

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Nelson

Sometimes the low class is just feeding into the narrative so they don't know. Yeah. The middle class is at least a little bit more understanding of what's actually going on, right? Because they get to play the option of the, you know, I would not play the option, but play in the realm of both the upper class and the lower class. Yeah. So things that affect both, they're going to see because you don't.

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Javier

You don't stay upper and middle unless you're paying attention. What's going on? Correct. Right. And if you and if one or two paychecks can bring you back to being poor again, you're not really in the upper class, right? That bar, that bar, that income level is moved even for like our area.

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Nelson

Yeah. And that's why the middle class is I mean, low class is going to see it. They're going to have to get this bill is going to affect them severely.

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Javier

The upper class is going to love it because it's going to make them richer or or put more of a burden on the states. Correct. Right. And I'm not talking about red states because they'll they'll just leave their people and let them fend for themselves, although they will see to don't worry.

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Javier

But but but states like, you know, your liberal state, New York, California, blah, blah, blah. Right. Like, you know, they'll have to chip in more. That's because it's because that's what it is. That's what the Affordable Care Act is. You know, you know, government putting the money for most of the expansion of Medicaid and then states putting up a little bit. Right. But now it's going to be more of a burden on the states.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

Government assistance. Yeah. And and another problem that I have with that that big benefit bill was the the ICE payout, the amount of budget that ICE was getting like from the from this, the the military got one hundred and fifty seven billion dollars in ICE got one hundred and fifty billion dollars. And I'm like, wait, yeah, what? Yeah. You're talking about the entire DOD getting one hundred and fifty seven billion dollars.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

And that's amongst the five branches that six branches that we have. Yeah. Almost forgot about Space Force.

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Nelson

And then you gave ICE damn near the same amount. What the fuck do they need that amount of money for? They don't.

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Javier

That bill that he sabotaged during the election year, that the comprehensive immigration bill that a Republican was was spearheading. Langford. Yeah.

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Javier

That had that had all of that in there. Yeah. It has support for all of that. You. They're they're not even putting out good legislation now. They listen. That big beautiful bill is bullshit. That it almost didn't happen. Yeah.

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Javier

And they have the numbers to make it happen. That's that's my thing. You got the numbers to make it happen. Why? Why is everything stalwart right now?

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Nelson

I'm here for democracy.

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Nelson

I'm just here for democracy.

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Nelson

We'll talk a little bit more about this big, beautiful bill, because

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Nelson

I feel like there's more to be said about this, this racial.

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Nelson

This financial Jim Crow literally.

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Nelson

But to catch that tune to the patient

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Nelson

because we're about to say bye to you, not NDA signers.

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Nelson

You got anything else for the freebies before we tell them bye?

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Javier

No, just again, stay informed, keep your head up and.

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Javier

Yeah, Michael, what you going to do?

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Javier

I want to know what you know. I want to know what the response is. You got anything to say about this? Because you obviously care about this Epstein thing more than I do.

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Nelson

So,

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Nelson

you know, I care about your being mad about the Epstein broken promises,

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Javier

broken promises.

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Nelson

And that's what you get.

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Nelson

The deep state takes over the swamp.

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Nelson

Draining the swamp and then fill it with new mucky water. So this is where we bid you not NDA signers goodbye. We hope you enjoyed the first episode of To Prosees Threat. And if you're watching this on YouTube, it's on all streaming platforms. If you're listening to this on streaming platforms, it's on YouTube.

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Nelson

So we got peace.

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Nelson

We got to come up with a name for our patrons, too.

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Nelson

I think it used to be called

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Nelson

signs and megaphones and then guns and grenades. And we forgot a new name to call the one dollar tears and a five dollar tears. But shout out to all patrons, especially you. Why see some philanthropists? I know a couple of y'all are in there tuning into protest and write to protesters to write.

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Nelson

And you're welcome. I know a couple of y'all have been waiting for this to come back. And here we are finally with episode one. I know you enjoyed episode zero. So I appreciate you tuning into next episode. Um.

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Nelson

The racial ambiguity,

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Nelson

I don't know what the word I'm looking for is ambiguity. There you go. Of this bill.

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Nelson

And again, I am a firm believer that Trump don't care about minorities.

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Javier

Not at all.

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Nelson

Which is crazy because he marries them.

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Javier

Because now we're on a page. Yeah.

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Javier

Well, you know what? Um.

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Javier

We could have had universal health care a long time ago. Yep.

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Nelson

You know why we don't have it. Because the government doesn't want to recover the money or the people don't want to recover.

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Javier

It has nothing to do with the money. They don't want to have they don't want black people to have health care.

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Nelson

Oh, yeah. The whole argument about the that it kind of gives black people the same rights as everybody else.

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Javier

Nobody gave them the same health care. That's for sure.

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Javier

God forbid. Right. Yeah. God forbid. But no. So, you know, during the the Enlightenment period or the what do they call it? Like that period right after post Jim Crow. Well, yeah, like after Civil War. What I go into the 1900s. Right. The Gilded Age.

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Speaker 8

OK.

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Javier

All right. All right. Yeah. I'm watching it right now. HBO. So that's. But no, they basically they had they had different opportunities. That was one of them to be like, hey, like we're going to go to a national health care system. So, yes, insurance companies and insurance companies. And the financial sector was like, nah, you know, but also

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Nelson

giving them niggas rights mainly and

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Nelson

health care.

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Javier

Mainly it was.

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Javier

It was the it was the conservatives at the time, southern Democrats. Yeah. Right. So yeah. And it was racially motivated. Yeah. So you can either you can I guess you can blame black people for that, too.

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Javier

Right.

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Javier

We don't have universal health care.

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Javier

Because we exist. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. Sure.

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Nelson

It's our fault for existing. And that's why we don't have universal health care. Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah. Everything would have been just fine if black people didn't exist.

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Javier

You also wouldn't have been a country.

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Nelson

You know, I'm about to say who would have built anything.

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Nelson

Shoot. Well, I mean, the railroad's Asians, they kind of identify as white.

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Javier

We trace our influence back to the American Revolution, though.

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Speaker 8

I agree. You know what I'm saying?

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Javier

So I mean, you know. Um, y'all thought it was Paul Revere. That was Paul Paul Jackson. And I hate that.

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Nelson

You know, there are there are your your your select few that understand. This is something that even probably Omar Johnson would get. But and then there are some some some ignorant black people. But I awful almost baffles me. And it's got to go to one of those arguments I stole from a homeboy where it's like all white people are either racist or don't understand racism.

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intro

Yeah.

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Nelson

Like there's no in between. They're one or the other. I have this argument with enough people where they're like, well, it's not that bad. And I'm like, who the fuck are you to say that?

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Javier

Yeah. Like, what do you what do you know? So you've been like, have you experienced it or

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Nelson

you're speaking from firsthand experience or what? Right. Right. Right. But it goes back to like, even with the laws that are being made and like, again, D.I. was a big hit.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Nelson

The process was a big hit for the minority communities, not just like minorities as in colored folks, but minorities as in white women. Yeah. Yeah. Asian people like it wasn't just like this is a FU to the black community or the people in the hood. No, this was this was a attack at all minorities. And then the people that look at these things and say, oh, it's not that bad. Don't look at it from the standpoint of

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Nelson

what how it affects the minority community or what it limits the minority community from getting

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Javier

the plan was always that much more grand. Yes. That much more deep to to make sure that when you when they talk about going back and making America great again and going back to a period where they felt good. They're talking about when you did you couldn't even open up a bank account in your own name, women. Right. And to what, the 1980s, 1990s, 1980s.

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Nelson

That's the answer I'm just trying to chase down this entire time since 45. I've been trying to chase this answer. What the fuck era are you talking about when you say make America great again? Yeah. Yeah. When are we going back to? Yeah. Because it was just 50, 60 years ago that Jim Crow ended.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. So I don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you say

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Javier

let's go back. I think they want I think they want a time more similar to Jim Crow. Right. I don't think they want to go back to slavery, but I do think that it's more geared towards segregation. Yeah. Or it and we're just

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Javier

America meritocracy the way that they want it to be. Yeah. Right.

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Javier

No.

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Javier

No. No going to places and looking for

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Javier

different people in this industry based off of their their talent that they have already. Yeah. Which is affirmative action.

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Nelson

And that's like I said, the the man a sapiens are openly saying we want to see more people that look like us. We feel safer around people that look like us. What the fuck is us? You you Viking descent motherfuckers, you caucus mountain inbreds. Like I don't know what the hell you what do you want to go back to? What do you want to see that looks so much more like you, the Europeans?

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Javier

It's it's hated. I feel like they don't like black people. But also at the same time, I feel like they don't want to get rid of us at the same time.

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Nelson

Because you got to have a working class.

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Javier

You got to have a class. You got to have somebody to make you laugh.

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Javier

You got to have somebody to steal things from.

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Nelson

Is that my role?

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Javier

I'm the white person. Jester. You're everything. You're the white person to inventor.

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Javier

You're you're the therapist. You're the therapist. You raised their kids.

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Javier

But no. And I'm talking. I'm saying that's the time that that's the time here that they want to go back to. They want to go back to the Mammy time. Right. They want to go back to that. Right. And we're talking about white men, cops, niggas and field niggas. Right. Basically to a time where they felt like because, you know, and you know, it's crazy. The reason what they want this to happen is because it can't compete. They never could. Right. Because imagine happened to compete against that excellent person who's black in this neighborhood, but they never looked in that that that that neighborhood. Shout out to D.I. In affirmative action.

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Nelson

That's all it did was open those doors up to other neighborhoods for you to find well qualified people.

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Javier

Yeah. We're not sending our worst. Trust me. They wouldn't even make it. We don't even like our worst. They wouldn't even make it in the building because you wouldn't let them. Yeah. Right.

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Javier

But at the same time, I don't know this community, this MAGA community, right? They are.

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Javier

I don't think they care about image anymore. Right. But because it used to be a thing of not wanting to be. I'm not racist. Yeah. Right. Now they don't care. Right. Because we all know it's been it was a time period where we decided that racism was low IQ. It still is. It is. It is. It is low IQ. It's low IQ. We have the same genetic makeup for the most part. Right. And and why would you want to think you're your

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Javier

that people are inferior to you? Right.

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Javier

It really defies logic, but it's low IQ. Yeah. And for the things that face the human human species, right, in the future, we're going to need all hands on deck.

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Javier

It's just I just think that it's a little like I said, it's low IQ and it's disingenuous because, you know, you know, black people have been very successful in this country.

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Nelson

And the catch up game is crazy.

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Javier

No, I truly believe that no one ever in the history of human civilization could have could have done that.

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Nelson

Yes, I agree. I think the the the amount of like inbred drive that black people has, it's got to be genetic.

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Javier

It's crazy because and what really will glue my day a lot of the times is, you know, I'll be on I'll be on social media or I'll be on the Internet or whatever. And I'm I'm doing a little bit more research into like black history. And this whole pull yourself up by your bootstrap, which we talked about before, right.

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Javier

We've done that. Yeah, we've done it. And it's been taken away through violence and and and laws. Right. So what is it now? What is it now?

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Nelson

What do we have to do?

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Javier

Or or or why is it that you do? I can tell you feel less than.

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Javier

Right. Yeah. Paul Mooney said nobody hates like family. Yeah, right. I could I can I can I can feel in my bone that you feel less than when you sometimes when you're around us.

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Javier

When when you see us succeeding, when you you tried to create a situation where we couldn't succeed.

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Nelson

Right. And I chose in like just the microaggressions. Yeah, something as simple as the microaggressions. Yeah, it makes the joke. Oh, well, you know, you guys got the good flavor.

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Javier

It's a shame my dog has to diffuse everything. Right.

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Javier

So we bought we actually we bought him with me to my on my TDY and my wife and I. And yeah, well, we went to Mississippi. I I have. Oh, you took her with you?

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Speaker 8

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

We stayed down there. And I know Mississippi kind of a little a little bit right. I have my family's from down there.

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Nelson

And I said father's from there. And you've been

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Javier

you've been the Kiesler in Biloxi. No. So I mean, like, you know, I've been there as a kid. Like, I know like I listen, wherever it is, black people, I always feel safe. But like, but also,

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Javier

you know, my wife, you know, she's from Baltimore. She she she was like, she she was a little skeptical about going down there. Right. And the I had to tell her like the hospitality you want to get is unmatched. Yeah, I'm a great

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Nelson

that's an hospitality. Something stupid.

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Javier

Yeah. First, which you get up here and we I think we talked about like that time, my TDY when I went to Dallas for worth and every time we went out because we were working to write. So we had our uniform on. We never paid up. We never paid for our food. Yeah. So you'll get that. You'll is a charm and a hospitality down there, right. But at the very same time, I feel confident that my dog diffused a lot of it, too. Yeah.

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Javier

Because he's I mean, he's you know, he's the dogs. The first thing we all see. Yeah. But like, you know, do you care more about interacting or getting to know a dog

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Javier

versus me, your fellow human being?

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Intro

Yeah.

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Javier

Right. Yeah. And I'm not saying that that's that was the case, right. But I'm saying that it's a shame that I had to feel that way. That my dog was really

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Nelson

they're only talking to me because I have a dog with me.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

You only said something because I have a dog with me. Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah. And unless and unless you were a service worker or somebody that was like a first

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Nelson

responder or something like that.

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Javier

Yeah. Somebody used to deal with a diverse amount of people.

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Javier

I didn't I didn't assume that I was going to get

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Javier

any type of, I guess, hospitality. Yeah. Right. But I did. I did. Because of your dog.

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Javier

Most I would say mostly because of him.

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Javier

But yeah, yeah, no, you know, and it's crazy because being down there, like I feel like we got a lot of love. Yeah. Our people, you know what I mean? Even when I got in that little ass airport.

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Nelson

It's funny that you say that, though, because I get a lot of that from like when I say if I go to Baltimore. Yeah. Like if I'm in Baltimore and I'm around my family, my family works a little for my dad's side, my family works a little differently. So like we do the cookouts, we do the family gatherings and stuff like that. I get hit all the time because I'm the only person, the part of that family that doesn't live in that area. And I very seldom come around to see my dad all the time. But like his side of the family, I don't see that often. Then it's always what's up, stranger? Do you remember me? All that kind of stuff. And then whenever that happens, my dad trips off and that shit. But yeah, I deal with the the southern hospitality more. And when I go north, but that's because I go north more than I go south. Right. I still get it when I go to the south. I just get it more because I go to the Northmore.

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah. But whenever I'm in like out of Mississippi and I'm around my my my second stepfather's family, it's the same shit.

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Javier

Well, just I guess this works for any human. The less access you have to people, the more mystery there is. Yeah. Right. So I listen, I like to think of myself as crazy.

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Nelson

I got two podcasts.

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Javier

Yeah. You want to know who I am? Listen above. Yeah. I like to think of myself as being somebody that's pretty well informed and, you know, pretty experienced when dealing with people. My my first assumption is always and God bless me for it, is that I'm. Maybe you don't. Maybe you've never been around people that look like me. Yeah. Or, you know, I'm always trying. I'm I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. But when it's right in my face, I know exactly what it is.

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Nelson

Yeah. And I so the owner of this entire shopping center. Yeah, I met her. This is probably a month ago and we got to talk and I told her I was going out to Washington State. I was going to be out there for a couple of weeks and stuff like that. And she was like, Oh, I live in Idaho. I was like, Oh, yeah, I go out there enough. Like, let's take the 45 minute drive to Coeur d'Alene. Yeah. And she was like, Oh, well, I'm like 30 minutes north. The 45 minutes north of Idaho. I mean, of Coeur d'Alene. So if you want to come out there and I'm like, no, I'm good.

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Javier

I was like, we didn't pass reparations. Right.

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Nelson

Like, no, I'm not going to outside of Coeur d'Alene is like a gathering spot. So everybody goes to Coeur d'Alene and it's like it's 15 minutes outside of the state line. Yeah. So people go there. Yeah. But the Coeur d'Alene is a little safe haven.

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intro

Yeah.

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Nelson

And once you go outside of Coeur d'Alene, you're in no man's territory. You're liable to deal with it. They still have racist races on Idaho. Yeah. So when she said that, it's like, I mean, shit, she didn't. Her first experience with a black person was here. Like the the the building director for this building. Yeah, he's black. Yeah. And she even hit him with the you're not like the others and people who.

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Nelson

Who said that? She said that. She said that to him. She asked them to go into I think it was like the CVS or something. Like go in with me. And she's like, you know, there's other people, you know, I'm black, right? She's like, yeah, but you're not like the other black people.

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Nelson

But it comes from like a super form of ignorance. Yeah. So it's not like she's genuinely being like she's not racist. She's just ignorant about racism. Yeah, no, I agree with that. So she's that type of because she's a sweetheart. Yeah, but I'm still not going out to Idaho to go see her. Right. Right. Right. Even when I was out in Washington, I was like, I'm making that trip. But but she was a sweetheart and she was she she enjoyed everything I had to say. She was picking my brain about everything, like my ideas and what I wanted to do with this building and stuff like that. But you can tell there's a very undertone of ignorant of racism.

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Javier

No, I 100 percent agree with you. I would also say that it's crazy that you would want that same nuance and understanding from me to be like, oh, and and and want me to do it in such a polite and subtle way. Right.

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Nelson

Because the reality is I do want to say you're not like the other white people. Right.

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Nelson

I do want to be able to say that.

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Javier

Right. Right. Right. Right. Which would be true. But like to to to think that we all act a certain way is right. It's actually false. It really is.

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Nelson

Because I got to do rag on. Therefore, I'm a thug. No, I just want to keep my hair. I lay my hair down.

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Javier

Oh, I want to do rag on the way over here. I had to.

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Javier

You're talking about laying my hair down. I don't actually I like to be clean. I don't like a hair out of place. Yeah, I like to lay my hair down, put some waves in, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Right. But that's that's what it's about. It's not about thug and like even even y'all have been.

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Nelson

But then y'all do it. Your man is sapiens. Y'all will do it to be cool. You ain't laying your hair down. Yeah, you're not wearing it. You're not doing the same things that we're doing to our hair. How you laying your head out for?

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Nelson

What the hell you laying your hair down for? Yeah, I'm going to be cool. White people would do right. You're doing it. White people would dreads. You're doing it to be cool. Black people do dreads to take care of their hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Javier

It's way different. It's meeting behind this.

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Nelson

Yeah, it's not just for style.

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Javier

Right, right, right, right. It's style. You think it's style because it's a fetish, right?

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Nelson

Yeah. Black women braid their hair for a reason. OK, it helps it grow.

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Nelson

It's not just for style. It looks stylish, but it's not for style.

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Javier

Protective style.

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Javier

That's how they that's how it's labeled.

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Javier

Yeah.

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Nelson

So running off of that, uh, fuck, was a big, beautiful bill.

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Nelson

I hope you'll see the effects immediately. That's that's all I got for you. I mean, military involvement. I can't wait to see that budget drop.

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Nelson

I can't wait to see what that percentage increase looks like in January. Listen, I in fact, made me all that shit from October.

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Javier

It's unfortunate

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Javier

for those who really need Medicaid, no matter which skin color.

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Nelson

I feel sorry for your kids in school. Yeah, I feel extremely sorry for your kids in school. Yeah, it is a bad time to have a baby

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Nelson

because I'm speaking during the one time you have to have the baby. Yeah, yeah.

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Javier

Oh, shit. Sorry. Oh, God forbid, it's something major, you know, you know.

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Javier

And preventative care.

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Nelson

Yeah, it's a bad it's a bad time to be struggling. It's really that's really the reality. It's a bad time to be in a struggle phase in your life. In the one point, you're probably liable to hit a struggle phase in your life.

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Javier

You really about to take Medicaid away from people who use that to go to therapy when they are going through probably like some of the worst times of their life. Yeah, financially and the world that we're living in right now, the politics and the dialogue

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Nelson

and the access to information, social media is the access to other people's lifestyles and stuff. Yeah, that's what pushes like I double it short. Like, I mean, yes, looking at social media for me gives me a reason to aspire to be better. But some people look at it and like, oh, God, I will never get that. And it hits all of the effects that hit with that because of that access to everybody's life and shit like that. Yes, this is the worst time to struggle. And but this is the biggest time that you're liable to struggle. Yeah, you're going to run into it.

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Javier

It takes away your voice. It really does. It does. Yeah. Individually, because because you think I will meet you. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know that.

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Nelson

Yeah, that's why I stopped posting. Initially, when I had started doing social media posting and stuff like that, I used to post on TikTok and TikTok would meet me every time. Now, it's a little bit more on my side. They love my political views. Yeah. They hate my music takes. Yeah, they love my political views. So I post on TikTok a little bit more frequently now. Yeah. It's my second favorite platform to post on because I watch TikTok argue amongst themselves.

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Javier

I'd hate the I'd hate the Kanye takes to.

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Nelson

They don't have my kind of take the him, I can't do the Martix.

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Javier

Oh, you definitely going against the.

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Javier

Is Kendrick the the the industry guy now?

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Nelson

He's the he's the if you're black, he's the if you don't vote for me, you're not black.

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Javier

Yikes. Yeah.

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Javier

Then you know, even Joe Biden. So,

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Nelson

but for the big, beautiful bill, it's a it's a definitely a riot for me. And it's a it's a huge riot. And it's kind of one of those I wish y'all would write more.

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Javier

Yeah, I think what is it? I think our community to my African-Americans have had the opportunity.

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Javier

You know, since I get I think since the Affordable Care Act was passed to move up a little bit more, right, to be it because health care is very important. I know I can't stress it enough. And what it does is going to knock a lot of the people who were on their way to moving up. Yeah. Right. And it doesn't happen all at once. Right. A lot of us who were in position to move up, moved up already. Yeah. Was able to take advantage of it. Correct. When, you know, when Medicaid was expanded. And now, though, that's a new class of people.

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Nelson

It's a new class like like that's why I say government assistance isn't government funding. It's not supposed to cover you for the rest of your life. But it is supposed to help you out of your certain situations. I had an argument with a homeboy about the VA being government assistant or VA disability being government. So I'm like, yo, it's government assistance. Yeah, it's a funding that you receive for being a disabled veteran.

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Javier

Yeah, because you can get regular disability. Yes. Yeah. But but but the veteran on it does a whole department. Yeah, that's all right. It's like it's government assistance, bro. It's a separate pot. Yes. But but it is it most certainly is. Some people we know people that join just because of that.

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Nelson

Yes, correct. And it's and then you made the argument like, oh, it's not government assistance because you have to you can only get it if you go in the military and like, yeah, but you can only get fast. But if you go to school, like, yeah, the fuck is the difference?

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Javier

Also, you can only get it if you actually hurt. Yes, exactly.

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Nelson

You have to be disabled.

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Nelson

Crazy.

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Nelson

But yes, this is one of those situations where I hope that a lot more of you riot to this because this is this is going to be problematic and you're going to see again, the rich is going to get richer. All your favorite YouTubers are just going to get richer. And all your favorite coworkers are going to either stay where they are or get broker, depending on what job you work in.

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Javier

This is not an administration for the working body. No, right. They just they just I think they lost that battle, that union battle for where we work.

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Javier

And I think because they were pretty much limited, they cut the dues out. I don't know if you were paying anyways, but I was. And now they can take it out of our check and still have like a presence on base now. So, yeah, yeah, no, this is not this is not the administration for the working man.

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Javier

And you you folks, this magga, you are the working man.

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Nelson

Trust me what I tell you, I'm going to get one of my teacher now.

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Javier

You are the working man. Yeah, you do a lot more than somebody's got to replace them in legal immigrants.

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Javier

Hey, and God, I want you to listen because you do a lot more than I do right now.

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Nelson

Same.

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Javier

I didn't want to say that. I didn't I didn't want to say that. I took them 11 days to get overpaid and underwork.

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Javier

Listen, my empathy to the minorities who didn't ask for this. Right. You you ought to ask for this.

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Javier

You're going to get exactly what you ask for. And then some. Yeah. And then some. Yeah. And then you'll find out. And hopefully the Epstein file isn't the only thing that turns you, wakes you up

[02:25:20:03 - 02:25:24:15]

Javier

because you should have been walking up. Yes, and no bullsh-- When that man came down that elevator.

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Speaker 8

When January 6th.

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Javier

You should have known when Obama roasted him at the correspondence there. You should have known. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? Republicans can only blame themselves. Their tone and their rhetoric for the past 30, 40 years have led to this. So what it is, it's the net. And hopefully I I was I was premature pre-election when I said this was the last

[02:25:53:13 - 02:26:05:28]

Javier

go around for for the for the for the magma for for that type of for that type of Republican Party. Yeah, I was wrong. But I truly believe we are we are still approaching that point to where this is.

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Javier

This is their natural conclusion. Yeah. Good luck. Next race.

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Javier

Yeah, because, you know, you know, a lot of liberals and, you know, people behind the scenes are like, you know,

[02:26:21:01 - 02:26:27:03]

Javier

thinking about moving out of the country. I said I have a different relationship with this country. Right.

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Nelson

That's what I said. I love America. I hate Americans.

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Javier

I we serve this. We serve a country that don't serve us as well as we serve them. That's a fact.

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Nelson

But at the end of the day, and this is how non jaded I am about this is but I love this country. Absolutely. So at the end of the day, I do love this. I love the opportunity that America presents. There's so many things that I can do here in this country that I just couldn't do anywhere else.

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Javier

My my hard work and everything is is planning. My ambitions are here. Yes. Right. It's nowhere else. I'm not going somewhere else. Learning a new language, changing up my my lifestyle. Then possibly not accepting my credentials that I have right here because they like.

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Nelson

And even when you hear you hear Americans talk about going to other countries to be, you know, live this lavish lifestyle, that's coming from an American mindset.

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Javier

It is. It's come and it's also coming from an American that's kind of for the. Yes, correct.

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Nelson

Correct. Get your head out of your ass. It's because you're American. You're welcome.

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Javier

But yeah, because you mean in Zimbabwe talking about, oh, you know what? I don't like the political situation right now. Apartheid. Right. I hate this. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to you're not going to be a doctor over in this other new country, too. Right. You know what I'm saying? This life and style, you know, culture that you've been living is different in other places. That part.

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Nelson

Yeah. Let's get to this last topic.

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Nelson

You gave it a riot, right? For the BBB?

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Javier

Absolutely. Absolutely. And this and this is this is it's not even a riot for me.

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Javier

Because we doing OK, but this definitely arrived for our those folks in our community, minorities and even poor whites. Absolutely.

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Nelson

Yeah. You all should be rioting. We bomb Iran after a social media overshare breaking a no new war is promised so recklessly it practically it's practically a spoiler alert for intense international violence. Protest a riot to the Iranian bombing.

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Javier

I'm going to protest it because I don't have any more energy for that.

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Nelson

And was there a point where you were rioting to it?

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Javier

Yeah, the 2000 when Trump 2016 when Trump first got in

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Javier

not 16, but 17 when his term started pretty much. And he was like, oh, yeah, I'm I'm going to pull us out of the the Iran nuclear Iranian deal. Yeah. Yeah.

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Javier

You it's like you you you created this situation. Yes.

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Javier

Because they were they were nothing

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Nelson

like he does many other pulling us out of the fucking the the Canadian Mexico trade agreement because sanctions do work.

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Javier

Yes. They're not they're they might they're not you might not be able to see the headlines on TV and really feel it for yourself or think that that country's taging their behavior. But it does. Yeah, the wealthy people in that country or whatever you really think they they are speaking in the air of Putin and all these these folks who have been sectioned right because their money is the money being tied up in European and American banks. If you can't bank in America and Europe, you can't I don't That's that's the pinnacle, you know what I mean? And and I just think that That this this class of folks are the ones who were like, listen, I this deal works for us We want to be have access to different markets, right? But you know, he it didn't look good for him. Yep. He wanted to erase everything that Obama did.

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Nelson

Yep

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Nelson

Because any take black people seriously

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Nelson

For as far as the bombing though, my biggest problem with that was all the advertisement prior to You did so much advertising before it where that's why the the rumor mill was going out about Did they get all the bombs out of there in time? Yeah, cuz I think they were still able to move like what was it?

[02:30:26:08 - 02:30:29:10]

Nelson

700 kilos of uranium.

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Javier

Yeah, this Trump administration is less organized or More disorganized. Yes, then the last the last he had people Who I might have had a disagreement on it with policy, but they've worked in politics before they've worked on They were neo-con

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Nelson

non politicians to do political jobs.

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Javier

You bought a bunch of people who are yes men and women's That's it.

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Nelson

Yeah, they're gonna even even I can't remember who it was saying some government official from the Pentagon was saying that basically the biggest breach to obstacle during that Iranian bombing was Trump

[02:31:08:09 - 02:31:16:08]

Nelson

Because he just kept posting and saying watch and see you won't see something's coming You don't know when but it's gonna come It's like oh shit. Let's pick up.

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Javier

I shouldn't get it out here then your boy Marco Rubio gotta be like

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Intro

That

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Speaker 7

was

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Nelson

a long time ago that I was a Marco Rubio supporter, okay

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Javier

When he actually accepted it because usually you do except when you get nominated Yeah, the president United States no matter what your position is, right? I was just like you could have said no to that Well, you're like

[02:31:48:24 - 02:31:52:19]

Nelson

what is your I don't think Marco Rubio was well prepared for what he signed up for

[02:31:52:19 - 02:31:55:10]

Javier

his career Was stagnant. He has two roles now, by the way

[02:31:56:15 - 02:31:59:29]

Javier

Two major roles if I'm not mistaken Trump's bitch and Trump's replacement

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Nelson

You know, he's gonna run again who Marco Rubio He's You know choice. I don't know who else I'm not a super big Marco Rubio fan He was just like out of the selection. There was nobody else on the Republican side.

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Javier

I Would I would have voted for Jed more than I voted for Marco Rubio. Yeah, no,

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Nelson

I Didn't complete disagree Marco Rubio

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Javier

Why can't we will disagrees with himself now?

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Nelson

He went from he will listen listen, it's different when you're working for that. Okay, I can't even come

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Javier

You should have known Marco Rubio was thirsty Yeah that every since he did that response to the State of the Union and he had to reach for his little cup Get his little sip What you

[02:32:53:29 - 02:32:58:09]

Nelson

want to do is you want to cut that portion out you want to do a smooth transition Maybe

[02:32:58:09 - 02:33:08:14]

Javier

it shouldn't be live No, your boy Marco is crazy That's crazy. I did not know that was actually your boy.

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Nelson

No, it's not that it was just kind of like he was my more preferred person on the Republican side if I had to choose somebody from the Republican side

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Javier

I never thought about it that way like having a backup. Yes.

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Nelson

Well, yeah having a backup on each side I pick a candidate from each side. Yeah, but obviously I always lean more liberal on a presidential election

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Javier

I haven't been able to pick a president from the Republican side since

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Javier

Abraham Lincoln

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Javier

No, no, I like I like

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Intro

Yeah,

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Nelson

I still like like Bush I don't I don't find Bush completely a horrible person I think during 9-11. I thought that was a very strong argument that he made I think he united America very in a very strong fashion and everything like that his but

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Javier

Relationship with Michelle is giving him the best edit that he Ever asked for time and his relationship with Michelle Obama has given him the best at it because he was not a good president He was not.

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Nelson

Yes. I mean the the the the no child left behind act was one of the biggest cover us for a big fuck-up. I Do the war on terror was probably one of the worst war decisions. We've ever made in our lives

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Javier

my description of Donald of of

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Javier

George W. Bush is the way Obama described it He's like they he do he really felt as though they were doing what they thought was best for the country Yeah, right. It just wasn't

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Nelson

I Agree. Yeah But yeah, I don't think he was like again. Look there are degrees to shit Mm-hmm and Bush can't hold a candle to the fuckery is the the fuckery that is 45 47.

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Javier

No, no So because it's all about mind you every single person who is in politics Has a certain level of megalomania. Yeah, right but the the level of narcissism Yes that this man is all is nothing isn't fuck everybody else. Yes, that man don't care about anybody even

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Nelson

if you're Central, right?

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Javier

Or my god

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Javier

Or his own and guess what he can do it cuz guess what he's not up for election Shit, he's saying that I don't know why you keep saying that he not up for election shit

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Javier

Am I sure he's gonna run again and a person's second term is always the excuse to kind of be like Oh, I'm just gonna do what I want and he don't and he don't care anything about the Republican Party so he can make decisions That Are gonna hurt them in the future

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Nelson

All he has to do is get people to pass this Jeffrey this Jeffrey Epstein's thing once he gets people past that though We back on them on the the micro cult

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Javier

Well, it is it is the job of social media to stay on the Epstein stuff for the next

[02:36:04:09 - 02:36:05:24]

Javier

Three years a year and a half.

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Nelson

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah and a half. Yeah, cuz what's the midterms come up that's gonna yeah Yeah

[02:36:13:18 - 02:36:22:22]

Nelson

Yeah, as far as the bombing like You told us no new wars you told us you're gonna stop all these other wars You started basically a new one could you think Iran is like?

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Nelson

You know, he makes a really good point like

[02:36:28:06 - 02:36:49:13]

Nelson

That's not about to happen my guy that's definitely not about that happen they're gonna come back For blood and then find out that there's a possibility. We only pushed him back with a couple of months. Yeah Yeah, as opposed to years like you made a sound. Yeah, you might have to deal with this next year You might have to deal with this in a few months. Yes, and it's gonna be Christmas time in bums.

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Javier

Yeah I hope it comes back around like around midterms, you know, they they strategic with it now, you know other countries Russia was Yeah, so other countries are like, you know what? I've accepted the fact that America is kind of the one that kind of runs the world a little bit You know what? We are going to make sure that we mess with them as much as we can as far as getting favorable people in there. Yeah, cuz Don't Trump is the perfect person to deal with. Yep All Iran has to do is be like, you know what?

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Javier

Give him a little bit of flattery right and go back to doing the same stuff that do

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Nelson

yep, right He he was I will say that moment when he said these countries have been fighting for so long They don't even know what the fuck they're fighting about it. That was pure cinema and that's why I always say Donald Trump is entertaining. He's just a horrible person to run my country Yes, that moment when he said that I was like, yeah, you've never heard a president just like I rightly say What's literally going through his head in this moment?

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Nelson

Pure fucking cinema fuck that guy.

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Javier

Yeah, but like that was hilarious moment on TV

[02:37:52:19 - 02:37:56:22]

Javier

He television that man on live TV is content

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Nelson

But the thing is and this is like it's content because it's funny for me to look and laugh at But like it's not like he's saying anything ever intelligent because if you listen to this guy if you pull up a transcript of Trump talking It's like when you read the transcript be like what the fuck did this guy just say?

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Speaker 7

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah The light or it's like did that just come out of an American president?

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Nelson

You're right Mmm, even the the the I keep going back to the Epstein files because it's just it's been Non-stop as of late But uh the letter that leaked and he's like this doesn't even sound like me and then like you look at it It's like also what you're saying is our president isn't as intelligent to be able to verbulate this kind of

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Javier

If I read two strength transcripts one was Trump and other was like a world leader I know which one was the world leader and which one was Trump? Actually, I would know which one was Trump's first

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Nelson

Very beautiful very nice.

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Javier

Yep a lot of a definite like everything is uh, he's the best at everything

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Nelson

Yeah, I'm the greatest which one has a chat GPT find out which fucking paragraph has more cockiness to it. That's Trump

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Javier

Find out the one that was written by a

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Javier

over testosterone

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Nelson

I love Tesla

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Javier

Very stupid I just I can't watch I really can't watch it I

[02:39:40:13 - 02:39:45:02]

Nelson

can't I've eaten that shit up because I can't take seriously now.

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Javier

I'm a political nerd I'm the type of person that was you know State of the Union is like an event. Mm-hmm. Not with him. I just can't like I But

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Nelson

yeah as far as the bombings like and obviously him just basically Virtually signaling the entire fucking time that he was gonna do something you just you prep these people too much yeah, these guys are favorite yeah, and then like the the guitar shit the Al-Mussad shit like the the retaliations like okay glad nobody died but like Katara's one of our big bases.

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Javier

Yeah I was like damn. I'll just damn 2022 right like

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Nelson

Yeah, you you you you you you thin it up the retaliation and then Iran is basically saying this ain't done motherfucker We come to bat. Yeah, just give us a little time now. We got to worry about We got to worry about too much shit, and it's fine that it's not like in our forefather It's not in the American people's forefront right now, but

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Javier

it will be He didn't get it from the first time That job that position you have more on your plate than anybody else in this world. He's not equipped for it. Yes And he has he's not equipped for anything when you start when you were talking about we're out casting his movements He doesn't know anything about

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Javier

Intelligence and and and strategy

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Javier

Because he's not I don't I don't believe he's even listening to these folks anymore.

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Nelson

No, I don't I think he just does and that's why This is probably the most uncommunicative Administration we've ever seen in our life. Yeah, because they don't know how to talk. He's he's going up and calling the people He selected idiots right behind them after they say something. Yes. Well that person. Oh, she said tosy-cabbard Yeah, she's wrong. She doesn't know what she's talking about Well, hold on. This is your your Russian propaganda talking machine right here and put her up on a pedal This Is this is your your your your your Marvel villain right here and

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Javier

you call her an idiot and here's what a here's what? They go wrong. You didn't check with your master first about

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Javier

About how you gonna present this I

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Nelson

love when JD Vance does that shit when JD Vance be like well I can't read the president's mind. It's like motherfucker. You're the right hand You should be able to read the mind of anybody

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Javier

Crazy word he cannot read that man's mind. Nobody nobody can nobody can but you know what?

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Javier

JD Vance is getting his uh He is out of sight out of mind. Yeah, right, but but also people know he's not doing a good job

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Nelson

Yeah, yeah, and I love that, you know I love that JD. JD Vance is gonna be one of those he's gonna be Mike Pence at the end Yes,

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Javier

cuz you know, you know, it's crazy. Yeah Kamala was getting all that she ain't doing anything. She's not doing anything It's because she's not hogging the camera doesn't mean she's doing JD. This is really not doing anything.

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Nelson

Yes, correct. You can't do anything He's got a president that contradicts everything that might he might say. Yeah, like I remember

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Nelson

Fuck it was was it about the bombings? It was about the bombings where JD Vance was on Fox News and like he's here. He's like, yeah I left the conference room and they were having agreement and he was working it out and then just JD Vance is finding out live shit the same time we are

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Nelson

So I guess he came to an agreement with Israel and Iran this is good to hear It's like bro, you're live on Fox. You didn't come with this information

[02:43:09:08 - 02:43:13:04]

Javier

all his staff like yeah, you just found it I don't see it Like

[02:43:13:04 - 02:43:18:11]

Nelson

you're finding out the same shit that we're finding out at the same time that we're finding out here

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Javier

the fucking vice president The only issue is is well, that's not the only issue But the one of the main issues is that uh, there's a camera in front of his face Yeah, like you're the first president. You will always have a camera. Yeah around you somewhere, right? Can you imagine that yeah bomb to Trump just did this you just you sitting there like oh Yes, you did. I think you know what I could never predict what's going on in his mind or something like that

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Javier

Y'all don't know the same page.

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Nelson

Yeah, you're not that's exactly what you wouldn't go about The way not there be a JB Vance stanner anything Trump's son, but yes in the worst way son dumb Agree you

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Javier

Trump is hood

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Javier

Cuz he's son dumb it is cuz JD his whole views he oh my god changed him and then hired him and Now you got to do everything us

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Intro

I

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Nelson

Bitch, JD Vance

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Javier

No In the worst way. Yeah, this is not even one of those things where you could look at it be like man This person is just like really ambitious like, you know, they willing to do anything Like you I don't you there is no comeback. Yeah, there's no comeback for him.

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Nelson

No. Yeah, JD Vance will never have a political career That's nice.

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Javier

He's done. He's done and I and his I think his wife's gonna pray leave him pretty She

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Nelson

talking about you know, I'm a minority right this entire time I've been a minority It's a mismatch.

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Javier

Yeah, I don't know I'm I'm not in their personal life, but it's from the outside looking it just seems like a mismatch. Yeah Yeah, he got better than what he deserved

[02:44:57:29 - 02:45:03:14]

Javier

Cuz back he's price. He was probably talking all that against Trump stuff. Yeah in the beginning you

[02:45:03:14 - 02:45:08:11]

Nelson

see this guy Hey boss

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Nelson

Here

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Javier

right right now, how's the weather?

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Nelson

So that Iranian bombings Trump's virtually kneeling it actually happened mr. No new wars is this protesters is the right It's a protest for me. I don't give it a protest to is a protest for me I mean again, he said no new wars, but I can't really exude the energy for it Because he ended none of the wars that were already ongoing some of which he started

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Javier

I'm disgusted by the lives being lost

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Javier

Always but um for me it's a protest cuz you know what again, this is one of those things that uh He promised. Mm-hmm, you know, and he's going back on it. He never had 24 hours. He never had a foreign policy He's not a foreign policy guy He's not a president. He's not a president

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Javier

Listen they fell for it. Yeah, and you know But by the time we get the midterms, right? We'll see we'll see what the enthusiasm is, right?

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Nelson

I so I'm in the weirdest way. Um, I Am actually looking more forward to these midterms because I do want to see what kind of impact Trump is going to have on these midterms

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Javier

Yeah, cuz you know he was talking about doing like reviewing state polling

[02:46:34:25 - 02:46:47:27]

Javier

Boos and all of them just like hey per Constitution that's all left up to the state I mean, that's that's not your responsibility, right? But we'll see if the we'll see if the the Supreme Court members that he hired will

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Javier

You know pretty much have his back on that because they did they Claire Thomas let's fuck that guy. Oh, I Don't I don't count him. No, he's just there Right. I know he's a no vote for anything that I'm for he's a no

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Javier

He's a no vote he most certainly does he he has to be the only black in the room. That's how he is.

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Nelson

Yeah

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Nelson

So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm looking forward to seeing out the midterms I do want to see what kind of impact he has it and I also want to see how the Republican Party as a whole is going to move moving forward without the the Again, I fucking hate him. You know this fuck 45 47 but for the enigma that he is for the the the not just outlier but the What do you call it once in a blue moon type of person once in a millennia type person? the words on tip my tongue that I can't I can't remember what it is, but for the The different kind of person that Trump was How is the Republican Party going to move moving forward? And that's what I'm like super interested in because are they gonna go backwards or are they gonna just full throttle for?

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Javier

When you were looking for a word, I was thinking measles But like but like but like measles are like coming back now, so I

[02:48:10:01 - 02:48:33:19]

Nelson

Know is like the once in a million type of person like he's an anomaly. Yes. That's what it was For the anomaly that Trump is I want to see how the Republican Party is going to move moving forward if they're gonna try to recreate this kind of Trump this Trump anomaly or if they're gonna be like Okay, that's not what the conservative party stands for anymore or like I want to see what they do

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Javier

They need they would need somebody to organize them. They they need Unfortunately for them because of the

[02:48:39:19 - 02:48:43:06]

Nelson

they're gonna be in the same rebuilding phase that the DNC is gonna be in

[02:48:44:17 - 02:49:20:01]

Javier

It's gonna be worse for them though. Yeah a hundred percent because they're gonna be fractured even more Yes, and there is nobody currently no one except for Donald Trump who can unite him? Can that can unite the Chamber of Commerce the Christian the Christian right and yeah and MAGA. Yeah, right. Yep Is That person doesn't exist. Yes. I mean other than Donald Trump Ted Cruz ain't got a chance Boy mark your boy Marco. No got a chance. I ain't got a chance All that whatever he's doing right now He called him little Marco

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Javier

That's part of the insult of a life. Yeah Little Marco

[02:49:33:15 - 02:49:37:01]

Javier

Right, it's cuz you got a skinny face. Yeah, I don't know man. He's just

[02:49:37:01 - 02:49:50:26]

Nelson

But honestly that that that flies on both sides that cuz I'm you guys know I'm critical about the the fucking Democrats to yeah I Democrats got to do a lot of rebranding They got it you the Democrats promise they don't lean enough left

[02:49:52:02 - 02:50:13:28]

Nelson

You're too central left. I had this conversation with a BF From my best friend. But BF is initials from work and he was he had a conversation with me that Kamala was too far left. I was like no, that's not her problem. She was the furthest from far left That's why y'all kept attacking the point that she doesn't stand on anything Obama was even Obama wasn't even far left

[02:50:14:28 - 02:50:25:19]

Nelson

You know, we don't get far left people like that anymore even Bernie Sanders I will still argue because I think we had this disagreement Bernie Sanders isn't far left because the far left people disagree with Bernie

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Javier

Bernie's mostly Bernie is Severely left.

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Nelson

He's not far left.

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Javier

He I don't even know what far left is. That's what I'm saying We so when people say Kamala is far left. Yeah, we you don't even know what far left is We're so far the middle has shifted so much and thanks to Bill Clinton. That was mainly the reason a lot of his that's where we are and they thought that his is his pragmatic approach and Being center left. Yes was going to move the party and gain more people underneath of it. But like center left policies Are more so geared towards? Middle class and upper middle class.

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Speaker 8

Correct, right?

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Javier

So you're you're people who are struggling people who are minorities who are struggling, right you You you didn't move anything except for boxed them into a choice.

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Nelson

Correct

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Nelson

Which I almost think that Center right would abide with the lower class more

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Javier

It would allow them to at least give bills like Government assistance. Yes. Yes, right cuz I mean the assumption is that

[02:51:40:22 - 02:51:50:03]

Nelson

but also aligns with them Because of like a lot of the the poor like especially that poor white class There's still like country bound and stuff like that, but they utilize government assistance

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Javier

It aligns with pragmatism because a lot of these governors, you know that are in red states We're not gonna sit here pretend like they don't understand like when you're on the other side when you're actually governing Yes, you understand like hey like these people are poor in my state. Yeah, I have to like provide Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you're right. I might not want to take credit for it Or I might have a philosophy of pull yourself up by my boot your bootstraps or whatever But like I have that's those numbers are not gonna look good. Yeah, right people dying for hunger and every like that That's not gonna make my state look good No, it's also not gonna make me help me attract businesses to my state Which is the only thing a lot of them are even really worried about.

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Nelson

Yeah, so

[02:52:31:02 - 02:52:32:25]

Nelson

We got a long year ahead of us

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Javier

And it's about very fun can all the four years just be in one year. Nope

[02:52:40:00 - 02:52:44:28]

Nelson

But you get four years of content in a month. Yeah, so

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Javier

No,

[02:52:47:22 - 02:52:51:26]

Javier

we almost in August or whatever. Yeah, it's not just I feel like it's been four years already

[02:52:51:26 - 02:53:02:03]

Nelson

Yeah, it's been it feels like times movie. So with this presidency. Yes, it's great cuz it's so much happening Yeah, there's so much happening. This is the longest 120 days. I've ever seen in my life.

[02:53:02:03 - 02:53:08:04]

Javier

It's it's all self-made Do all self-inflicted? He's an idiot. Yes

[02:53:09:04 - 02:53:11:28]

Javier

Who only cares about himself? He does

[02:53:13:08 - 02:53:19:12]

Javier

When y'all are gonna really wake up to that fact, I don't know when the Epstein files will get released Yeah, but it

[02:53:21:26 - 02:53:43:00]

Javier

Aren't you like aren't you a little worried about like hey like Cuz they really want to see what liberals and like yes on the list, right? But like what if you don't see any of the liberals you want to see only because I really but you only see Donald Trump on there so It's like was it even worth it wanting these Epstein files to come out because you definitely gonna give him a pass, right?

[02:53:44:13 - 02:53:48:07]

Nelson

Yeah, because they could that's why he should be the only person on this What are they really

[02:53:48:07 - 02:53:54:09]

Javier

outraged about here's the thing the reason he's not releasing it. Do they really think he's protecting Democrats?

[02:53:54:09 - 02:53:57:05]

Nelson

No, cuz he's blaming the Democrats for create it

[02:53:57:05 - 02:54:13:00]

Javier

This It only like the reality just it just doesn't make sense anymore. Y'all have to start paying attention to this because I feel like We're going crazy. We are not we I feel like a lot a lot of

[02:54:13:00 - 02:54:13:19]

Nelson

crazy

[02:54:15:16 - 02:54:17:05]

Nelson

I'm definitely going crazy over this.

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Javier

I got it helps when you unplug. Yeah. Nope. Can't do it

[02:54:23:01 - 02:54:24:02]

Nelson

Coordinating too much

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Nelson

Gotta keep my yeah, I took them that week and a half off from fucking

[02:54:31:02 - 02:54:38:11]

Nelson

When I went out to Spokane to disconnect from it and I came back and it's like three fucking things that had happened Well, I was gone. I was only going 11 days.

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Javier

I Have a have a flaw. I'm an overthinker So it would absolutely all like I've is so much that's good that goes on in my head when I'm thinking about this shit It but

[02:54:47:23 - 02:54:52:20]

Nelson

I don't I don't know. I'm just waiting for the next day because I know if I wait three days something else is gonna happen

[02:54:54:29 - 02:55:26:22]

Javier

If you make three minutes something's gonna happen this man is fair enough this man is It's just constant BS 24-7 and It's just very disorder. I hate that Because I hate the disorganization. Yeah, but at most part. I really think I hate it I hate the I hate the targeting. Yeah, and and the the revenge going after yep And I hate I hate the disorganization. They are disorganized. They can the federal they don't communicate Executive branch runs this country.

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Nelson

Yep.

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Javier

All our services. Yep.

[02:55:29:02 - 02:55:32:10]

Nelson

There are no more three branches of power There's just the executive branch. Yeah

[02:55:33:13 - 02:55:35:13]

Nelson

They backed by the

[02:55:35:13 - 02:55:41:18]

Javier

traditional legislative. Yeah, though. I mean the way things are now. Yeah, you might as well say that There's no coat three co-equal branch.

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Nelson

Nope It is one and he is supported by the other two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have anything else

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Nelson

You got anything else for the free people before we say bye you said the free people I mean for the patreons Jesus

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Javier

Christ I don't disrespect them like yeah, sorry

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Nelson

Your

[02:55:58:21 - 02:56:14:14]

Javier

money is going into this man that dollar I know that can listen I can hold you back But um, I'll hold you up or hold you up But but listen, I'm just gonna say save that dollar spend that dollar. It don't matter. It's gonna be a tariffs on it

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Javier

You can do what you want But um, cuz cuz y'all you know what cuz y'all have been doing what you want, right? Yeah, you have been voting you have been doing what you want. And I hope we are done with this teenage stage

[02:56:33:23 - 02:56:39:27]

Javier

Right that y'all are actually gonna go and Not embarrass me on the world stage

[02:56:41:02 - 02:56:45:07]

Javier

Don't embarrass me. All right. Y'all are embarrassing me on the world stage

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Javier

The last thing I want to do is be somewhere nice chilling and it's like hey man, you seem nice but what's up with the rest?

[02:56:58:01 - 02:56:59:07]

Javier

My friend now

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Nelson

we got to be held liable for your mistakes

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Javier

Voted for the lady,

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Nelson

uh, yeah, I don't have much nothing outside of release the files

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Javier

Or not or no or not, but you you just keep pissing off mega You you are going to have to answer to your call. Yep, you're gonna have to answer to your call and don't don't take it from Me. I know you're not watching

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Nelson

this and now I actually hope that you do. Here's my final message to y'all I hope that there are mega people that are watching this and throughout however long we do this podcast I hope that magma people tune in and you guys watch this and you guys open your eyes and it's not because of the Epstein files because you just listen to to socially or politically aware people Talk about politics and just point out the crazy that is going on. Don't worry. We are liable to critique Democrats very heavily Yeah, but right now

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Nelson

So we

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Javier

can't critique the people without our And we and also we are much more alike than than what you think Yes, right and I'm not talking about you don't have to listen to the same music I listen to or pray to the same God that I pray to but if you don't understand Kitchen table politics if you don't understand like hey like this is bad for my bottom line or hey also I live in this world too And I want my neighbor to have the same rights as I do and not be discriminated against if you don't understand that

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Javier

You're probably not meant to be in this time Agree this that's old stuff. That's old. Yeah, you're not meant to be in this time This this it was always this was inevitable that

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Nelson

You only know where the knife and the fork go on the silverware plate And you don't know what is included in

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Javier

bill yet to be in to be the folks that wrote the Bible and Proclaim the God it says that the last will be first and the first will be last it literally says that and you

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Javier

You might be last Monday You might already be last yeah You might already be last and holding on to something because you still have the power to hold on to it

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Javier

Think about that for a second yep

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Nelson

Good luck

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Nelson

This is the podcast where we just cut through the bullshit give your opinions on the facts But we try to give you the facts in the argument of the conversations So we hope you enjoyed it episode one two process of riot will be back next month for episode two Good luck

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Nelson

That the greatness of America is the right to protest

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up he shouldn't have a house He should catch on fire

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Episode 0: Cults, Courts & Baby Oil

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Nelson

Should Chuck Truman continue to write his soft spoken letters to the Oval Office about words of fascism and how the president is being unconstitutional? Or should AOC and Bernie just go ahead and pull up with enemy style jumpings and words of violence to go ahead and whip the Constitution back in the shape?

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Javier

Donald Trump's ice. Are they actually out here solving our immigration problem? Are they deporting innocent Maryland fathers and some cancer-stricken kids?

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Nelson

Is the woman beating Diddy and all of his allies finally about to seek justice? Or is the baby oil still wet and him and all the other PDFs are finally about to slide through the cracks like Epstein?

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Javier

Katy Perry singing fireworks in space. Is it inspiration or a rich girl cosplay? She ain't even Gaga. At least Gaga would have made it art. This is the state of the culture. We're just here to ask. Is it time to protest? Or is it time to write?

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Speaker 8

Somewhere I read. Of the freedom of press.

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Intro

Somewhere I read. That the greatness of America is the right to protest for rights.

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(Music)

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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intro

That you'd catch on fire.

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intro

And very, very, very, very.

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Nelson

Welcome to "Protester to Ride" podcast. Jesus Christ.

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Nelson

But I gotta strike that. Welcome to the "Protester to Ride" podcast. I'm your host Nelson Jor and my co-host Javier.

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Nelson

Penzilla.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

The

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Nelson

news of the podcast is under YCC. Here to bring you the facts, the facts, and more of the facts. And tell you our opinions about it and try to figure out whether this is a... ...my mute salute conversation about the situation. Or do you have to kick somebody's teeth in or the Capitol wall's in?

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Nelson

But even if you

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Nelson

kick the walls in, it's probably a protest.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

Shoot episode zero. Thank you for joining us as we push this podcast out.

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Nelson

And...

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Nelson

What you got? Black man named Javier.

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Nelson

I got a whole lot.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

What do you have as far as the introduction of this podcast?

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Javier

Well, this is definitely an opportunity for us to have a conversation... True. ...about what's going on in the manner of introducing facts, you know, a little bit of our opinions in it, you know. But making sure that we are holding these folks accountable because they're not holding their souls accountable. Matter of fact, somebody doesn't like I.G.'s. You know what? Yeah, your boy Trump, he like...

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Nelson

Oh, and inspection general. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Javier

I thought you meant Instagram. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. He probably doesn't like Instagram either. He probably doesn't.

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Nelson

He doesn't help him win the election.

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Javier

No, no, no, no, no, no. Not his platform.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

Shout out to the TikToks.

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(Laughter)

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Javier

Yeah, you know, he had to get some skin in the game. That's my damn story. You know, he got his little truth social. Or some chopsticks.

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Javier

Yeah.

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(Laughter)

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Javier

Well, look, he can't complain about not getting the fair coverage.

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(Laughter)

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Javier

I don't know. This man, we haven't stopped hearing about his gripes and grievances. He hasn't stopped talking about it. So, you know,

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Javier

yeah.

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Javier

That's what we want for this, is to hold it. Are we holding him accountable?

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Nelson

Ah, we'll get into it.

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Nelson

Mind you, coming into this podcast, we are not here to only talk about the Trump and the Trump administration, but we're going to spend a lot of time talking about it. We're not here only talking about Congress and politics and everything like that, but we are definitely going to talk about it. But we will give you all of our... It's like protest and riot was in the past, no longer affiliated, but still a staple mark of where we are.

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Nelson

We will still talk about news that are coming up anytime another epidemic like COVID. So Trump can properly handle it.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

Yeah.

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Nelson

When we talk about all of these employees that are going to get all these jobs, doing all these manufacturing companies because Trump said it's going to happen.

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Nelson

Maybe we might talk about Trump more than you expected.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

Yeah. If all you niggas that don't watch news and don't hear Trump, you're going to hear about him here.

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Javier

But... I begin to show off with my sound check saying Donald Trump into the mic.

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Nelson

Which is the most hilarious thing. I'm actually going to start making people do that in a few days. You're recording over here under the tabs of WCC. You say Donald Trump into the mic. Because your bigger behind it is going to tell me how you feel about it. Yeah. I'm going to be able to point out my race is a lot easier.

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Javier

Oh, yeah. You sound excited or... Donald Trump.

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Nelson

Get out.

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(Laughter)

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Nelson

Donald Trump. You say... That's going to be the game moving forward. Yeah. But, um, welcome to Protester's Riot. Bringing this back. Playing the kinks out on this episode and having a little fun. But, um, we got some topics to do because we're past 100 days and it's going to be a fun journey between now and whenever we stop doing this.

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Nelson

But I hope that it's after the Trump administration. I need you to just stick around with me. At least until the Trump administration is done.

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Javier

You got a grade for this 100 first days?

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Javier

Got a grade? You being funny. Got a grade for it or what you got?

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Nelson

Being that I can't buy any camera equipment. Okay. Um, I'm going to give that an F. Uh, being that my retirement starts to have gone down. Going to give that an F. Uh, being that we stopped all the... We scared. Sorry, still not stopped. Scared all the Hispanics that come to this country. Um, going to give that an I don't give a fuck because they weren't taking my jobs. Um, being that...

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Nelson

What else has he done?

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Nelson

That's a good question. Being that DEI is no longer a thing. Yeah. Um, I'm going to give it a not give a fuck because I already have my job. Yeah. Shout out to the niggas that already established. Um...

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Nelson

Being that...

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Nelson

Ukraine and Russia are still at war. Going to give that an F.

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Javier

Um... 24 hours.

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Nelson

Uh, so on an average, I'm going to give it an E.

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Nelson

Okay. Okay. For empty. Because I gave two not give a fucks and four Fs. Four Fs.

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Javier

I'm just going to go ahead and give them a Z.

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Javier

I'm going to give them a Z.

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Nelson

Yo, if your teacher gives you a Z.

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Nelson

Repeat your grade.

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Nelson

A Z for Zebra.

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Nelson

He's for the black and white.

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Javier

He's stripes.

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Javier

Stripes. You know what? None of it makes any sense. That's that's my point. I don't know. This guy. This this fellow.

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Javier

Shout out to Donny.

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Nelson

Shout out to him. I ain't got nothing. Look, I shout out my Nazis about like your father on the podcast. All right. So Donny gets a shout out, I guess. Doesn't mean anything good. Yeah. It doesn't mean anything bad. It just means you take it as you see fit.

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Javier

It's almost like saying shout out to the dead meat father. Shout out to Bernie Ritter.

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Nelson

Hey, Kevin Gates.

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Nelson

I said conversation for another podcast.

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Nelson

I know you. I saw your face. You wanted to touch on that. Nope. I'm sorry. You're going to have another podcast.

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Nelson

Um,

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Nelson

where the fucking start? Yeah.

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Nelson

Um, yeah, because we're just gonna get to it, y'all will understand more about the podcast as time goes on. You'll understand more about us as we go on. Shit, chat. GBT will understand more about us as we go on. Yeah. But we have a set of premise and by premise I mean tone and by tone, I'm in conversation. So let's go ahead and get into these topics. Chuck Schumer telling everybody that we'll finally start to kick in after the day for 39% approval rating.

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Nelson

And then when he had 39% approval rating.

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Nelson

He said a peaceful letter to the Oval House saying they have to stop it.

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Javier

What? You know what?

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Javier

Because here's my thing, right? They try to position themselves as being the grownup in the room. Right? And time and time again. I think that's fine. If your, uh,

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Javier

your constituents to people who support you, that's what they're asking for. Correct. But they're asking for something a little bit more spicy. Right? They want you to get out here and to start. Pull your shit out. Shaking some things. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're past that point. Correct. We are past that point. Um, we're at the point now where we have to defend democracy. Correct. And this other dystopian hand maintenance tell saga that he's trying to create for us. Right.

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Javier

I'm listening. When, when, when are y'all going to get some leg in the game?

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Javier

This is part of the reason why y'all didn't get reelected.

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Nelson

My, I always say this. My biggest problem is you Democrats are the smartest motherfuckers on the planet. We're also dumbest motherfuckers on the planet because y'all want to, you have to wait for a Republican to break a rule. And then even when the Republican breaks the rule, you're still scared to break the rule instead of them. Yeah. Like, or in behind them and a sense of everything that Trump is doing, the Democrats should be soaking in and saying, Oh, okay, I can see what we get away with. Yeah. He got away with it. Yeah. But then you get to the front lines and like, we're not going to be like that last president. No.

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Nelson

Listen, you got elected.

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Nelson

He won.

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Javier

We got to decide when it's peacetime and when it's war time. It's war time. It's definitely war time. Stop playing this game with us. It's war time. I don't necessarily mean that no violent way, but I do mean it in a way that we need to fight. If you, if you all were waiting to protest or to riot, I know sometimes I would hear people be like, man, I wish I was able to be energized and be around that, that civil rights time. And I wonder what that felt like.

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Nelson

Well, we, this is two point, this is 2.0. You niggas aren't ready for it. You say, you say 2.0, I think is one 0.5. You niggas aren't really ready. You niggas aren't really ready. And this is my biggest thing is like, I always make this argument about how willing to die for so much to make this country continue to succeed. That's where it is. Right. I am willing to risk my life. I say, if you know me, if you've ever heard anything, I have to say, I'm a stand off point of democracy, constitutionalism, like all those things are very important to the breadth of what America is. I'm willing to die to save that. To get my parents the luxury of being able to continuously vote, I will die for their right to vote. Yeah. You tell, you walk up, a stranger walk up to me and say, I'll shoot you in the head, or your parents don't get to vote. Shoot me in the head, nigga.

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Javier

Yeah. 10 times out of 10. Also, listen, listen, y'all. He disrupted the peaceful transition of power.

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Javier

Conversations that I'm ready for. Lord, if I always ask, I always ask, I'm like, do we really remember the first four years?

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Javier

Or is it just we do we really have that short of attention span

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Nelson

when COVID was a COVID was a joke? Yeah. Well, COVID wasn't really a thing.

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Javier

When he inherited Obama economy from saving the country from the last Republican, right?

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Nelson

Conversations they're not ready for it because let's talk about how Trump was really handed a gold platter. Yes, he was. A gold fucking platter and did nothing with it.

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Javier

Consistent, sustained growth.

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Nelson

These motherfuckers are always complaining about that Kamala Harris is going to take her guns and throw her guns away. And it's like, didn't Trump do the buttstock ban?

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Javier

He can't do any wrong. He can't do any wrong.

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Javier

And I think that's a scary place to be in right now. It is.

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Nelson

But again, my argument always goes to it's not the misinformation. It's the confidence behind misinformation. The fact that you look at no matter what he does, he's doing it for just cause. Therefore, I will abide by him. I'm like, bro, I don't even do that at work. These folks out here with conviction just say, I'm not going to do that.

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Javier

I don't even do that at work. These folks out here with conviction just saying wrong and incorrect things.

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Nelson

You know, the worst part about it is the fact that you will sit there and no matter what he's like, this is what pisses me off about. Like a lot of Trump supporters, the maggots, as I like to call them.

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Nelson

The maggots will sit there and say what he said this time made sense for that time. But now that he's saying something different, it makes sense for this time. And I'm like, where is that energy with any kind of democratic represent?

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Javier

It won't be. They won't. Honestly, they probably, they won't even. Who is allowed to change their mind other than Donald Trump? That's a good question because I don't think they would do that for probably your mainstream Republicans as well.

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Nelson

They won't. If JD Vance changed his mind, they would. The only thing they let slide with J.D. change, J.D. Vance change his mind was his support over Donald Trump.

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Javier

Oh, JD. He thought this was a real opportunity for him to come in and maybe, you know, take over Greenland.

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Javier

Or at least at least have be the first one to take over that that magga base once Trump is gone.

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Nelson

He doesn't have the charisma. That's why I tell I've had this conversation with family members about like they worried about Ron DeSentia is coming into power or something like that. I'm like, I'm I'm I'm the person that's not worried about Ron DeSentia. Is that the charisma? No, I realize that like, yes, Trump, as much as you will hear me talk about this time and time again, especially over the next course of four years, I'm sorry. I'm going to preemptively say this. I hate Donald Trump, but I think Donald Trump is an entertaining person. He's funny to watch. I just don't like him running my country. But the thing about Trump is he is charisma out the wazoo. He's created a cult. Yes.

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Javier

But that's based off charisma under under the disguise of Donald Trump. It's the Republican Party.

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Javier

Think about charisma. Think about that. It's it's it's Reagan wouldn't support Donald Trump right now.

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Nelson

No Republican would support Donald Trump.

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Nelson

Except Congressmen that are afraid they're going to lose their job.

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Javier

Or the ones that actually are buying into it, like you know Marjorie,

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Javier

you know, the bleach blonde

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Nelson

Congressmen that are worried about losing their job. No previous Republican president is worried about that.

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Javier

has is gonna have a job. She is gonna have a job, all right? I ain't got shit for that people.

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Nelson

I ain't got a motherfucking thing for that people. Not that feet bit.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Cause I almost said that bitch.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

But I'm trying to be polite. Okay, it's episode zero. I'm trying to be nice. But yeah, no.

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Nelson

It's all about fighting or falling within the guys. Yeah. And I,

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Nelson

one political pundit per se, that I've always enjoyed even on the outside. I was like, okay, he likes himself well. Ben Shapiro, I've always been a fan of Ben Shapiro to an extent. I'm like his views, but I like the way he presents himself. I like the way he argues his points.

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Javier

You like his voice?

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Nelson

I like his views and whatnot, not his views. I like the way he presents his views. I think he's always been like politically standish about how he presents his views. But even him during the Trump administration,

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Nelson

it's been like, I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.

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Nelson

And that's something I can get behind. It's like, all right, you understood the things, you wanted things to go a certain way. And then you listened to it a little bit more. You're like, all right, this ain't going the way I thought. And I kind of don't know what the fuck I want.

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Javier

Oh, what the fuck I'm getting out of this. Those who we used to consider like on the extreme, right? It's crazy now that they're becoming the reasonable voice on that side. Like Candace Owens?

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Nelson

Conversation for another time.

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Javier

Is she reasonable because she didn't land any major role in the Trump administration? Probably. Is that what it is? Probably. You better ask your boy from South Carolina that too.

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Javier

Senator Tim Scott. Sheesh. You took Scott out of there. Why you brought him up three times? No, I got her. I got her. I absolutely got her. I absolutely got her.

[01:17:20:13 - 01:17:26:19]

Nelson

Quiet, quiet. Soon an episode of Ask the Zawos 102 where this thing brought up Tim Scott like three times.

[01:17:29:28 - 01:17:38:19]

Javier

Sorry Tim. No, but I'm not. No, but you're not. But I'm not. But I'm not. But I'm not. I got a lot of words for you, but it's okay. Yeah. Respectability politics.

[01:17:38:19 - 01:17:40:26]

Nelson

The question is, protest a riot.

[01:17:42:13 - 01:17:56:16]

Nelson

Donald Trump being unconstitutional with everything that is going on. The deporting of the citizens, deporting of the illegal. And I don't like the way they throw around the word illegal, but we'll argue that point in the conversation.

[01:17:57:22 - 01:18:09:00]

Nelson

The deportation of legal achieving citizens. What do you call an illegal? What is the basis for an illegal immigrant?

[01:18:10:07 - 01:18:13:27]

Nelson

If an immigrant is going through the proper route to get legalized,

[01:18:13:27 - 01:18:18:08]

Javier

are they an illegal immigrant? It's like the naturalization process.

[01:18:18:08 - 01:18:37:14]

Nelson

Yes, okay. Yeah, yeah. So then I ask the protest a riot process. Are we against, or is what Donald Trump doing is it a process or riot to Donald Trump being unconstitutional about the legalization, the nationalization of a citizen and the deportation of immigrants?

[01:18:37:14 - 01:18:58:17]

Javier

You know how that question is gonna get answered? It depends on who's up on the chopping block. So it's either a protest or a riot depending on who's up on the chopping block. Because the next person up or the next person down, they think they're safe, right? They think that they're safe. But again, they're the next ones, right? So again,

[01:18:59:23 - 01:19:03:19]

Javier

either they're gonna be ready to protest or they're gonna be ready to write, right?

[01:19:03:19 - 01:19:07:23]

Nelson

I'm gonna be honest, I give it a blanket protest. And only because,

[01:19:12:20 - 01:19:13:28]

Nelson

I'm gonna be that guy, okay?

[01:19:15:03 - 01:19:15:25]

Nelson

Only because,

[01:19:16:28 - 01:19:26:12]

Nelson

again, I say this all the time, democracy is a beautiful thing. And I like when people suffer from the consequences of their actions.

[01:19:29:12 - 01:20:01:09]

Nelson

Yeah. Call me the fire starter, and I am. But I like that people are getting what they quote unquote voted for. If you got fired from your job, I'm glad that you got fired from your job if you voted for this. If you got deported after Latinos for Trump, I'm glad that you got deported. I want people to get out of America what they want, because America is the opportunity, opportunity is the comptry, where you are set here to get what you strive most to get.

[01:20:02:13 - 01:20:07:05]

Nelson

And by strive most, I mean vote. And if you voted for Trump and you got what you voted for,

[01:20:09:04 - 01:20:11:20]

Nelson

peace, but also good on you.

[01:20:13:16 - 01:20:18:03]

Javier

But also, right, also, were they able to,

[01:20:19:27 - 01:20:22:04]

Javier

obviously they were being sold. They were being sold.

[01:20:22:04 - 01:20:35:26]

Nelson

I don't give a fuck about that. Your limited information is based off upon yourself. I ain't playing the devil's advocate where like, oh, well, you know, they thought that they were gonna get this, and then they got that, and that's not what, but anybody that's got any fucking common sense understands.

[01:20:37:26 - 01:21:05:13]

Nelson

It was there. You knew. Yeah. He sat on the debate table and said, the Haitians are eating cats and dogs. He told you how he felt about immigrants. Yeah, yeah. And what is crazy, because Trump doesn't even like, doesn't even dislike immigration. He just wants immigration to be done the right way. We all want immigration to be done the right way. The problem is not immigration, it's the asylum-seeking process. Yeah, yeah. Everybody was coming over here and saying I'm seeking asylum.

[01:21:06:19 - 01:21:12:02]

Javier

Well, he doesn't want immigration to be done the right way. There was an immigration bill in Congress.

[01:21:12:02 - 01:21:17:01]

Nelson

Oh, yeah, but Congress didn't run out of it. But yes, it wasn't by Lakeford.

[01:21:17:01 - 01:21:19:29]

Javier

Yeah, one of the most conservative members in the Senate.

[01:21:19:29 - 01:21:27:01]

Nelson

The most, one of the most conservative members in the Senate. One of the most, yes. And shot that shit down just so he ain't gonna have a running point.

[01:21:27:01 - 01:21:28:00]

Javier

Wow,

[01:21:29:02 - 01:21:39:22]

Javier

to play politics in that way. And he wouldn't be the first one to do something like that. Yep. But like, when are we gonna start getting it? I get it, we get it. But as a country, when are we gonna start getting it?

[01:21:41:01 - 01:21:43:04]

Nelson

When the news gives us the right information?

[01:21:44:08 - 01:21:49:10]

Javier

Well, I knew that there was a, it was plain as- When the news, you

[01:21:49:10 - 01:21:54:13]

Nelson

were listening to what he said. You weren't listening to what the news was saying that he said.

[01:21:57:02 - 01:22:02:08]

Javier

Listen, I get that it's hard to read between the lies sometimes, but that was pretty, that was pretty.

[01:22:02:08 - 01:22:30:02]

Nelson

Because you were listening to what he said. Right, right. You weren't listening to what the news was saying. There are motherfuckers that are saying, I'm literally hearing people saying, we didn't need money. Money's not important. People lose money. You go out all the time, you spend your money on dumb shit. You didn't need money, that wasn't important. So what if you're losing money to tariffs? I'm like, wait, hold on time, what the fuck are we talking about now? What the fuck are we actually talking about?

[01:22:31:02 - 01:22:34:01]

Nelson

Nobody in this world looks at anything like that.

[01:22:34:01 - 01:22:39:01]

Javier

Yeah, but talk to those farmers and the auto workers. I'm gonna get one of them, I teach.

[01:22:40:08 - 01:22:40:29]

Nelson

You're not, farmer.

[01:22:43:07 - 01:22:46:07]

Javier

Folks who rely on government subsidies, right?

[01:22:46:07 - 01:22:58:02]

Nelson

To make a living. But we don't have enough money to pay for a proper border patrol or asylum seeking processes, or fixing asylum seeking processes, but man, we better have this money for these tax cuts.

[01:22:58:02 - 01:23:05:08]

Javier

You know what? Those priorities would have been there if they were real issues when people were supposed to care about it.

[01:23:06:20 - 01:23:07:08]

Nelson

But,

[01:23:09:03 - 01:23:15:20]

Nelson

argumentally, people do care about this issue. I don't hear anybody but conservatives complaining about trans.

[01:23:17:06 - 01:23:26:25]

Javier

True, but I'm talking about the things that require, I guess, funding. Trans. Sure, sure, sure.

[01:23:26:25 - 01:23:27:28]

(Laughing)

[01:23:27:28 - 01:23:37:08]

Javier

I'm being funny, but I'm also being serious. No, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. But if we gonna still be on that note, right?

[01:23:38:26 - 01:23:39:07]

(Laughing)

[01:23:39:07 - 01:23:42:05]

Javier

I didn't wanna sit there long, but we can, we can.

[01:23:43:05 - 01:23:56:07]

Javier

Yeah, kicking them out of the military, when they've already served, they've already, a lot, and we're both in, and we know how that lifestyle is, right? We know that,

[01:23:57:07 - 01:24:01:10]

Javier

if we're being honest with ourselves, a lot of our life is centered around it, right?

[01:24:02:10 - 01:24:04:04]

Javier

This wild to just kick somebody out.

[01:24:04:04 - 01:24:07:01]

Nelson

It's not even that. I don't have,

[01:24:08:07 - 01:24:10:00]

Nelson

woo, that's some crazy shit.

[01:24:11:26 - 01:24:15:06]

Nelson

My problem is how you win about it. Where you're like,

[01:24:16:07 - 01:24:26:19]

Nelson

they claim it a medical condition, because you saw the email. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The email that came out, and it was like, anybody that's even considered identifying as, and I went to my boss,

[01:24:27:20 - 01:24:33:07]

Nelson

and I was like, hey, from time to time, I have considered myself a bad bitch.

[01:24:34:27 - 01:24:53:08]

Nelson

Do I need to volunteer to remove myself from the military? He started laughing, I'm like, you're laughing, but like, I'm kinda serious right now. Do I need to file some paperwork? Cause I said that facetiously, but I don't know if that means I have a medical condition about what my gender identity is, or anything like that.

[01:24:53:08 - 01:24:58:21]

Javier

If you said that to your supervisor, I'm really curious how you answered those first few Doge emails that we were recording.

[01:24:58:21 - 01:24:59:16]

(Laughing)

[01:24:59:16 - 01:25:00:23]

Nelson

Which one was it?

[01:25:00:23 - 01:25:06:17]

Javier

We didn't answer the email one time. We did one or two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and then that was it, yeah, yeah.

[01:25:06:17 - 01:25:09:02]

Nelson

And then we didn't even send it to Doge, we sent it to

[01:25:09:02 - 01:25:13:17]

Javier

OPM? Yeah, we sent it to OPM. So? Yeah, Doge.

[01:25:13:17 - 01:25:14:19]

(Laughing)

[01:25:14:19 - 01:25:15:10]

Nelson

True.

[01:25:17:14 - 01:25:24:09]

Nelson

Side note, my dad's been talking about that, how he used chatgbt to send his emails to Sojat.

[01:25:24:09 - 01:25:31:08]

Javier

We all do, we all do. They really thought they were doing something with it. I'm just like, man, is that

[01:25:31:08 - 01:25:32:29]

Nelson

how-- Shout out to Elon Musk for making chatgbt.

[01:25:34:01 - 01:25:35:03]

Javier

Is that how Tesla's ran?

[01:25:36:25 - 01:26:04:25]

Nelson

We don't know how Tesla's ran right now because Tesla's getting the same running that the country was getting, if you let any conservative tell it, where Joe Biden wasn't running the country, and obviously Elon Musk ain't running Tesla. So it's the same thing, which means it might work. Because if Elon doesn't, it works, and if Joe Biden doesn't, it doesn't work. So I'm just gonna assume that it does work. And obviously Tesla's getting burned down, they're falling down in stocks. What did they have?

[01:26:06:01 - 01:26:08:09]

Nelson

I just saw a report the other day where it's like,

[01:26:09:22 - 01:26:17:29]

Nelson

they made about 180,000 Teslas, but only like 29,000 a year is getting sold?

[01:26:19:06 - 01:26:24:15]

Javier

Or Cybertrucks? Do you remember it was the opposite before? They couldn't, it was the order, they were back.

[01:26:24:15 - 01:26:34:15]

Nelson

It's not the same anymore. Crazy work, right? It's crazy when a country don't fuck with you, especially as an African. He is getting his wake up call, isn't he? Especially as an African.

[01:26:35:16 - 01:26:36:13]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:26:36:13 - 01:26:37:16]

Nelson

We all gotta learn at some point.

[01:26:37:16 - 01:26:42:11]

Javier

I'm glad he's learning, I'm glad he's learning. He ain't. You probably not.

[01:26:44:08 - 01:26:50:00]

Nelson

Because Elon Musk has the luxury of being a brand. So he can just put his brand name on something else and start over.

[01:26:50:00 - 01:26:59:05]

Javier

He's never really made anything. Correct. He's not really worth anything. No, he isn't, he really isn't. He's pretty much asset rich, but it's fine. It's fine.

[01:26:59:05 - 01:27:05:03]

Nelson

So he just started another brand, there's something else, and somebody be like, oh, it's Elon Musk, therefore. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[01:27:05:03 - 01:27:05:11]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:27:06:16 - 01:27:07:15]

Nelson

Shout out to the spaceships.

[01:27:07:15 - 01:27:11:22]

Javier

Shout out to cars that are cheaply made.

[01:27:13:12 - 01:27:17:13]

Nelson

Of Asian parts. Yeah. With 135% tariff rate.

[01:27:19:08 - 01:27:20:21]

Nelson

Also fuck this, because I can't get my cameras.

[01:27:20:21 - 01:27:22:07]

(Laughing)

[01:27:24:22 - 01:27:27:16]

Nelson

Fuck you, because I'm struggling with your camera equipment right now.

[01:27:27:16 - 01:27:29:24]

Javier

Which, you just got that car.

[01:27:31:12 - 01:27:37:01]

Nelson

Before anything kicked in. Oh. My whole family went through it. My whole family got new cars.

[01:27:38:05 - 01:27:48:08]

Nelson

Yeah. Dad bought an Audi, my mom bought a Lexus, I got the CRV, my brother got a RAV4. Yeah. Yeah, we all just got new cars before that shit kicked in. Mm-hmm. So, yeah.

[01:27:50:07 - 01:27:55:03]

Javier

I was trying to think of a name, a brand you should've got, but they all getting affected, aren't they? Yup. Yeah.

[01:27:55:03 - 01:27:58:19]

Nelson

Especially Honda, Toyota, Lexus, and Audi.

[01:27:59:29 - 01:28:00:00]

(Laughing)

[01:28:00:00 - 01:28:02:08]

Javier

I think a bike was a better option.

[01:28:02:08 - 01:28:02:27]

Nelson

A bicycle?

[01:28:02:27 - 01:28:07:27]

Javier

Yeah. Not a motorcycle? A bicycle? Not a bicycle, like you're not listening.

[01:28:08:27 - 01:28:14:03]

Nelson

Except it's a 45 minute drive. Could you imagine that bicycle ride going across

[01:28:14:03 - 01:28:15:25]

Nelson

the Woodrow Wilson Bridge?

[01:28:16:27 - 01:28:28:17]

Javier

You were no longer allowed to tell at work. Hey, I don't know what to tell them. Transportation in this area, it's like we eat. Ass? Yeah, it is, it's very bad. And now we gotta be out in traffic. I know you're an HOV, baby.

[01:28:29:23 - 01:28:31:00]

Javier

It's killing my pockets.

[01:28:33:10 - 01:28:33:10]

(Laughing)

[01:28:33:10 - 01:28:37:10]

Javier

I don't even feel like I work anymore for money. It's wild.

[01:28:37:10 - 01:28:40:14]

Nelson

I work to go make money to-- Yeah.

[01:28:40:14 - 01:28:51:26]

Javier

Right now, I'm just paying, it's a lifestyle now. Yeah, no bullshit. Yeah, so yeah. I'm paying for the title. My new position, it's just the title now. Not really getting paid for it anymore.

[01:28:51:26 - 01:29:03:21]

Nelson

Thank God I'm as patient as I am and I have a lot of friends that I call in long term situations where I can be like, oh, I'm gonna be in traffic for about an hour and a half. Let me call a friend. I know I can talk to them for an hour and a half. I get that lecture in life.

[01:29:03:21 - 01:29:15:10]

Javier

That's kind of what I need these days. I wouldn't mind sitting in traffic if I didn't, if I wasn't trying to maximize the rest of my day. Yeah. Because it's not about work for me. That please, listen.

[01:29:17:08 - 01:29:17:09]

(Laughing)

[01:29:17:09 - 01:29:18:23]

Javier

I gotta, we all got plans.

[01:29:18:23 - 01:29:23:20]

Nelson

Time to go. Time to go. Chucks out. If you know, you know, chucks out.

[01:29:25:13 - 01:29:27:16]

Nelson

We the fuck out of here. What time you want me to leave?

[01:29:27:16 - 01:29:28:12]

Nelson

Right, right, right.

[01:29:29:13 - 01:29:31:00]

Nelson

I'm already in cities by three o'clock.

[01:29:31:00 - 01:29:35:04]

Javier

Right, right. Yeah, shoot. I'm on the highway by three o'clock.

[01:29:36:19 - 01:29:37:18]

(Laughing)

[01:29:38:25 - 01:29:39:23]

Javier

It's a little different at the group.

[01:29:39:23 - 01:29:41:08]

Nelson

Yeah, no bullshit.

[01:29:41:08 - 01:29:42:10]

Nelson

A little different at the group.

[01:29:44:03 - 01:29:45:24]

Nelson

Coming at eight, leave at three. Yeah, you are.

[01:29:47:01 - 01:29:47:18]

(Laughing)

[01:29:47:18 - 01:29:50:05]

Javier

Still putting four or five down on your schedule. Don't, please.

[01:29:51:09 - 01:29:57:25]

Nelson

Don't listen. Don't check these numbers. Please don't listen. Shout out to the monitors, but I come to my squadron. Yeah, huh? Shout out to the monitors, but I come to my squadron.

[01:29:57:25 - 01:30:00:17]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not just about supervisors.

[01:30:00:17 - 01:30:03:08]

(Laughing)

[01:30:05:17 - 01:30:07:21]

Nelson

Sorry guys, that was an insider. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know.

[01:30:07:21 - 01:30:10:25]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the things we,

[01:30:13:10 - 01:30:16:14]

Javier

PC monitors. That part, that part.

[01:30:17:16 - 01:30:25:09]

Nelson

Highlight of the day. But fuck you, niggas. I give it a protest. I give the unconstitutionalism process because I want people to get what they wanted.

[01:30:26:20 - 01:30:27:25]

Nelson

And I think,

[01:30:29:00 - 01:30:41:00]

Nelson

I think one of two options is gonna happen. It's either gonna make a strict fix, or it's gonna be a massive downfall, and either, or if I die or die, I'm always on the energy.

[01:30:41:00 - 01:30:43:09]

Javier

Well, look, not to, listen,

[01:30:44:15 - 01:30:59:16]

Javier

I didn't wanna sound selfish by saying this, but we examined the election. My family now, he was like, you know what? How much is it really gonna affect us? Right? Like I know, we're black, you know what I mean? And same struggle.

[01:31:00:26 - 01:31:00:27]

(Laughing)

[01:31:00:27 - 01:31:11:22]

Javier

Like we haven't been out here for the longest trying to maneuver through this world and this country. That part. Yeah, no, we're doing okay for ourselves, right? The people who voted for him,

[01:31:13:00 - 01:31:17:22]

Javier

especially like the low income whites. They're gonna get affected the most. They most certainly are.

[01:31:17:22 - 01:31:19:15]

Nelson

The luxury of being a little bit more middle class.

[01:31:19:15 - 01:31:30:15]

Javier

Because when he starts making cuts to some of the social programs that you rely on, that you, for some reason, it's okay for you to use it, but when anybody else uses it, it's just-- Crazy work.

[01:31:30:15 - 01:31:32:27]

Nelson

Okay, I'm like, let me not go-- Crazy work.

[01:31:32:27 - 01:31:35:13]

Javier

Let me not go there, right? But yeah, so yeah,

[01:31:36:17 - 01:31:39:11]

Javier

Do, do you wanna talk about who's really abusing the system, right?

[01:31:40:12 - 01:31:53:20]

Nelson

My thing about it is, how did you go from what, $2 billion are gonna be saved to $150 million being saved? And then you're sitting here talking about all this fraud, waste, and abuse and how you caught a fraud, waste, and abuse within the government, but nobody's been tried.

[01:31:55:05 - 01:32:04:29]

Nelson

No, no accusations have been found about who's fraud, waste, and abuse. There's fraud, waste, and abuse, do you know being in the government that this is kind of like a really big problem?

[01:32:05:29 - 01:32:18:17]

Javier

Yes, we've seen it, right? We've seen it. It's honestly, I'm not saying this right, it's the nature of the beach, right? There's ways to make government more efficient, right? So what they're doing is accounting tricks. Correct.

[01:32:18:17 - 01:32:30:10]

Nelson

And it's not even accurate. Actually, I don't even think they're doing that. I don't even think we're playing the accounting tricks game for this. I think we're doing the collecting information. That's exactly what he's doing. They're doing what I do to my exes.

[01:32:32:19 - 01:32:32:19]

(Laughing)

[01:32:32:19 - 01:32:33:08]

Nelson

If you know, you know.

[01:32:34:24 - 01:32:38:17]

Nelson

But like, literally, that's all they're doing is I think they're just playing this game to collect information.

[01:32:38:17 - 01:32:46:22]

Javier

And don't be surprised if X, that's what it's called now, is a little bit more accurate with the algorithms. Crazy.

[01:32:47:28 - 01:32:53:02]

Javier

And Starlink and all of that isn't taken off because they had the information

[01:32:54:15 - 01:32:56:14]

Javier

that was supposed to be safeguarded.

[01:32:57:22 - 01:33:09:07]

Javier

We're putting trust, no matter what administration it is, you're putting trust in these folks to make sure that all of your stuff, your personal information is safeguarded. They're rating that right now.

[01:33:09:07 - 01:33:09:13]

Nelson

Correct.

[01:33:10:16 - 01:33:18:28]

Nelson

And that's why I think this whole two year lifespan of Doge, but also quitting after six months, like, it was just the time to collect information.

[01:33:18:28 - 01:33:20:08]

Javier

Yeah, and you know.

[01:33:20:08 - 01:33:20:29]

Nelson

To feed the algorithm.

[01:33:20:29 - 01:33:26:27]

Javier

So Twitter can work better. Collect a six figure salary. Yep. To do nothing. Correct. Yeah.

[01:33:28:02 - 01:33:29:25]

Javier

But what you initially set out to do.

[01:33:31:05 - 01:33:38:00]

Nelson

Yeah. I'm standing on business here. I'm definitely still giving in to protest because again, I want you guys to get what you voted for.

[01:33:39:11 - 01:33:42:26]

Nelson

I'm mildly complaining about it, but I'm not like storming the Capitol

[01:33:44:11 - 01:33:45:27]

Nelson

because that would also be a protest.

[01:33:45:27 - 01:33:46:22]

Intro

Yeah.

[01:33:46:22 - 01:33:49:13]

Javier

Listen, I don't think we're at that point.

[01:33:50:25 - 01:33:51:25]

Nelson

We should be.

[01:33:53:09 - 01:33:55:02]

Javier

Because you know they've stormed the Capitol for less.

[01:33:57:00 - 01:33:57:05]

Nelson

Shit.

[01:33:58:28 - 01:33:59:28]

Nelson

That nigga is spitting.

[01:34:02:00 - 01:34:06:02]

Javier

That nigga is spitting. You know, just stay away from that habeas corpus.

[01:34:07:12 - 01:34:07:22]

Nelson

Protest right.

[01:34:08:28 - 01:34:11:04]

Nelson

To the unconstitutionalism. Oh, that's a riot.

[01:34:12:12 - 01:34:13:09]

Nelson

That's one of us.

[01:34:13:09 - 01:34:14:06]

(Laughing)

[01:34:14:06 - 01:34:34:01]

Javier

That's a riot. And I'm gonna tell you this right now because that's what this country is built on. And I told you, honestly, it was damn near riot before when they disrupted the idea of the peaceful transition of power. That is a concept that distinguishes us from so many different other countries in the past.

[01:34:34:01 - 01:34:37:20]

Nelson

Mind you, I originally would have rioted to this.

[01:34:39:00 - 01:34:54:05]

Nelson

Once you go, again, have your complaints about America, have your problems with America, stuff like that. I've always been a constitutionalist. I've always been in a mindset. So there's certain ways that things have to work in America. Have to work in America for America to work the way it is.

[01:34:55:13 - 01:35:12:08]

Nelson

I used to give benefit of it out to people where like, "Oh, you voted for Trump?" Like, "Okay, I guess I get it." I kind of get it. After the January 6th, I'm like, "You can't convince me otherwise. You're an idiot. I'm convinced that you're an idiot because you're not going to overthrow my government."

[01:35:12:08 - 01:35:17:04]

Javier

Can I take it one step further? I'm convinced you're not American.

[01:35:19:16 - 01:35:33:13]

Nelson

Anybody that supported January 6th should be fucking in my riot mode. Anybody that committed January 6th and anybody that supported January 6th should be instantly considered a terrorist of America. Instantly.

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Javier

Absolutely.

[01:35:36:01 - 01:35:42:05]

Javier

We're the only ones that operate in this manner. And it goes, honestly, it goes back to the Civil War.

[01:35:43:17 - 01:35:49:20]

Javier

Cause name another country where the losing side still got to fly their flags and pretend-

[01:35:49:20 - 01:35:51:28]

Nelson

Hold on. Transgender flag.

[01:35:54:27 - 01:35:57:07]

Nelson

Oh wait. They're not allowed to fly their flag anymore.

[01:35:59:11 - 01:35:59:11]

(Laughing)

[01:36:00:22 - 01:36:07:04]

Nelson

That's not a laugh as a transgender community. That's just a laugh at the fact that transgender was losing side and they lost the loss.

[01:36:08:28 - 01:36:14:28]

Nelson

Yeah. Shout out to the administration, but not shout out to the administration because let the fucking trans be what they are.

[01:36:14:28 - 01:36:15:17]

(Laughing)

[01:36:15:17 - 01:36:17:08]

Nelson

They don't make us alone, bro.

[01:36:17:08 - 01:36:18:07]

Javier

Like, God damn.

[01:36:20:04 - 01:36:24:02]

Javier

They're not even consistent on what liberties or who they want to, whose liberties they want to protect.

[01:36:24:02 - 01:36:27:25]

Nelson

Oh no, they are very consistent. Christian men. Christian white men.

[01:36:29:11 - 01:36:33:27]

Nelson

Trump don't care about Christian men. Trump- It doesn't matter. Trump's not staring the helm.

[01:36:35:01 - 01:36:36:29]

Nelson

The Heritage Foundation is staring the helm.

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Javier

Are they though? Yes.

[01:36:39:15 - 01:36:49:15]

Javier

Cause they can't seem to get this man on track. If he can't be on track and organized about how he's rolling out Project 2025, it's not gonna work.

[01:36:49:15 - 01:36:55:22]

Nelson

You say that, but in what sense do you mean? Like, where is he contradicting Project 2025?

[01:36:55:22 - 01:36:57:28]

Javier

He's the most disorganized.

[01:36:57:28 - 01:37:01:11]

Nelson

That's irrelevant. Where is he contradicting Project 2025?

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Javier

I'm talking about the way he's going about doing it. Where is he contradicting Project 2025? It's not about him contradicting it. He'll follow it, cause he agrees with it or it helps him. He only cares about himself. But the way he's going about rolling it out is not going to work. Cause they don't understand how- No, the

[01:37:21:19 - 01:37:29:29]

Nelson

way they're rolling it out is not going to work. Right. Donald Trump is probably like, all right, maybe we should bring this fucking immigrant back.

[01:37:31:01 - 01:37:37:29]

Nelson

Where everybody's like, no, you gotta stick to your guns on this, you need to make sure that motherfucker stays deported because this is an-

[01:37:40:02 - 01:37:49:26]

Nelson

I'll roll over into that. This is the Allegro Garcia issue. They're never gonna let him come back to America. Never, because he's gonna have a story to tell.

[01:37:52:01 - 01:38:14:15]

Nelson

That's my whole argument about this whole thing. The reason why they'll never let him come back to America is he's gonna have a story to tell by his experience. And that's gonna be a problem. They gotta let them come back. They're gonna let him come back. If the next president is democratic, they will bring him back. They gotta let him come back. Not gonna let him come back. Not there in this administration. Not during Trump's era. He got it. They're not gonna even let him come back.

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Javier

He hasn't stood on anything.

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Nelson

They're not going to, that's irrelevant to what they are and aren't going to allow.

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Javier

He hasn't stood on anything. That's irrelevant to what they are and aren't going to allow. Here's the real shout out. Shout out to Harvard because they're proven, when you stand up to somebody, to him, right, he gets flustered.

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Nelson

I'm like, I get you, but my problem with the Harvard situation is, we are what, a month in?

[01:38:48:07 - 01:38:52:18]

Nelson

We will see. I guess we will, but-- I got Harvard caving.

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Javier

I got money in Harvard caving. The initial standup was good enough for other people to see. It was an interview eventually back down. For example, Amazon, talking about they're gonna start putting the tariff numbers attached to your items on the website.

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Javier

In my opinion, it took Harvard to stand up to him in the way that they did for other people to be like, all right, man.

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Nelson

Because it's Trump, I don't think that's the case only because I think at a certain point, they're gonna be like, all right, we caved, and then, because Trump's gonna use that, like, oh, I got them to cave, and everybody's gonna be like, okay, well, after enough pressure, and after enough funding, and stuff like that, we're gonna cave eventually. I want Harvard to keep doing what it's doing. Do that, get me wrong. I want Harvard to keep doing what it's doing. But I worry about Harvard not caving up the facade.

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Javier

They have 100, they got millions, they have a great endowment, right?

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Speaker 8

Yes.

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Javier

I don't know the number off the top of my head, but it's enough to sustain them through this administration, for sure, right? Now, a lot of the extra that government actually funds, like the research that they do, that they lead on, yeah, that's gonna take a hit, right? That's gonna take a hit, but they can sit there and point to it, right, when, yeah, we've made all this in-road into cancer treatment.

[01:40:15:25 - 01:40:24:24]

Nelson

But if pushing your agenda is more important than the money that you're putting in your pocket, that's one thing, but Harvard or not, still looking at it from a money standpoint.

[01:40:25:24 - 01:40:30:14]

Nelson

So that's what I'm saying, I want them to hold out. I worry that they can't.

[01:40:30:14 - 01:40:31:01]

Javier

But again,

[01:40:32:07 - 01:40:39:20]

Javier

because we all like to think this is a 100% capitalist society, right? But it really isn't. About 70?

[01:40:41:25 - 01:41:01:23]

Javier

A little bit less than that, I would say. I would say. But, and I only brought that up because, okay, because in a true capitalist society, he would make whatever moves he makes against these companies or whatever, and then the next company behind him would step up, and you know, but it doesn't work like that.

[01:41:01:23 - 01:41:05:09]

Nelson

Especially for a school as, like, distinguished as Harvard.

[01:41:05:09 - 01:41:09:11]

Javier

I'm not, I'm talking about schools, I'm talking about businesses, you know.

[01:41:09:11 - 01:41:12:16]

Nelson

But even that aside, especially for a school like Harvard.

[01:41:12:16 - 01:41:17:01]

Javier

Yeah, the pinnacle of Ivy League and you know.

[01:41:17:01 - 01:41:23:28]

Nelson

How many of these news reporters that are on Fox News right now, sitting there talking about how they came from Harvard. Crazy work.

[01:41:23:28 - 01:41:37:14]

Javier

Went to Harvard. Crazy work. Let's be real about that. Crazy work. Harvard, all the Congress, all the judicial branch. Yep, it's a flex to go to Harvard. It is, it is, it's pedigree, right?

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Nelson

My problem is like, I get it, but there's only a select few people in this world that are willing to stand up to the disenfranchisement for so long.

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intro

Right, right, right.

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Nelson

That's what I'm looking at it like, cool, but how long can you do it? Yeah. Like, whether they can support themselves, obviously Harvard, because what Harvard brings in, obviously they can support themselves for a long amount of time, but then you're missing out on so much, how long are you willing to miss out on what you're missing out on?

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Javier

What they're missing out on is the good work and research.

[01:42:15:19 - 01:42:51:18]

Javier

We're missing out on it, if that makes any sense, we're the ones that are gonna be missing out on it. Correct. Harvard is like, listen, we'll get back to it when we can get back to it, right? The ones who are gonna miss out on it, or these cancer patients or whatever, who are relying on these new ideas and technologies, right? That the government funds. R&D is historic, the past few administrations has gone down, right? He's taken an ax to it. Yeah, straight downward. And we rely on it. We all got a family member or a friend that relies on the research that these folks are putting out, so. How many cancer patients do you know?

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Nelson

A lot.

[01:42:53:20 - 01:43:03:22]

Nelson

Not you specifically. Oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How many cancer patients do you know? How many people have you come across in your life? I promise you've come across more cancer patients than you've come across transgender.

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Javier

Crazy. Right, come across more cancer patients than you do immigrants, illegal.

[01:43:13:08 - 01:43:13:14]

Nelson

Based.

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Javier

Based. Right, since you're so worried about it, right? Since you're so worried about it. Because I'm not gonna sit here and play that game where you tell me a stat, right? And tell me what I'm supposed to be worried about when we know that violent illegal immigrants, that number is just not significant.

[01:43:35:10 - 01:43:39:15]

Nelson

And again, how many of these illegal immigrants are taking your job?

[01:43:41:02 - 01:43:45:00]

Nelson

If you work at McDonald's and you're worried about an illegal immigrant taking your job,

[01:43:47:09 - 01:43:53:18]

Nelson

do better, my nigga. I kinda feel that way about that. It's like, if you're working certain jobs and you're worried about illegal immigrants taking your job,

[01:43:55:03 - 01:44:00:07]

Nelson

do better, my nigga. Like, if you were betting on having that job for the rest of your life,

[01:44:00:07 - 01:44:01:03]

Javier

bruh,

[01:44:02:09 - 01:44:25:23]

Javier

bruh. I'm like, we missed a whole opportunity to really address why wages haven't caught up with the rate of inflation, right? Why you can't go out here for entry level and $20 an hour is not like a lot of money to support yourself anymore, right? We missed out on a really important opportunity to focus on something that was not an issue.

[01:44:27:05 - 01:44:28:06]

Nelson

Immigration-- Like buying houses?

[01:44:29:09 - 01:44:40:13]

Nelson

That's why you have so many fucking Gen Y, not Gen Y, Gen Zers over here talking about, it's too expensive to buy a house, my nigga, you're 23 years old.

[01:44:41:25 - 01:44:51:21]

Nelson

What do you mean it's too expensive to buy a house? 23 years old, why are you trying to buy a house? Yeah, yeah. And nowhere in life in time was a 23 year old buying a house.

[01:44:51:21 - 01:44:53:14]

Javier

Yeah, and listen,

[01:44:54:19 - 01:45:02:09]

Javier

I'm just a little disappointed that they don't know the context behind why things, why it's more expensive to buy things now, right?

[01:45:04:03 - 01:45:10:14]

Javier

You don't make enough, nigga. Listen, Kamala was talking about a first time homeowner's tax credit, right?

[01:45:10:14 - 01:45:16:07]

Nelson

Man, that business, fucking that small business owner whose fucking credit would have done me so good.

[01:45:16:07 - 01:45:36:18]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that's another thing, especially for minority business owners, the grants that they, now I know if you're applying for grants now, people who help write grants now are telling minority business owners to leave the minority language out of your grant now.

[01:45:38:04 - 01:45:39:23]

Nelson

Because that's not a thing anymore.

[01:45:39:23 - 01:45:45:13]

Javier

When that was a thing that would help get you the grant, now it's, stay away from that.

[01:45:45:13 - 01:45:45:25]

Nelson

Yeah.

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Javier

Yeah, but you know-- I'm here for the smoking mirrors. But this is the business president, Mr. Bankrupt, nine times.

[01:45:54:00 - 01:45:55:00]

Nelson

The Mr. I'll Catch a Deal.

[01:45:55:00 - 01:45:56:29]

Nelson

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the Mr.

[01:45:56:29 - 01:46:01:05]

Javier

I'll Claim a Deal. He's such a great business owner, businessman.

[01:46:01:05 - 01:46:09:07]

Nelson

Let's talk about that Allegro Garcia thing with the deportation, because I realized that a lot of people are like,

[01:46:10:19 - 01:46:21:02]

Nelson

and by people, I mean maggots, they're all under the argument of, well, they're illegal immigrants, they shouldn't be afforded due process. Why not? Again, I'm a constitutionalist.

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Speaker 8

I'm always gonna go back to that.

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Nelson

Constitution states that the people will receive due process. There are certain moments in the Constitution where it says the people, and there are certain moments in the Constitution where it says citizens.

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Nelson

The people will receive due process, because at the end of the day, if a illegal immigrant comes over to America and mass murders, you don't wanna send them back to Mexico. You wanna trial them in fucking America.

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Javier

Why are we not trialing everybody in America? The language is clear as day, and we all know that the Constitution is super vague.

[01:46:55:03 - 01:46:55:11]

Nelson

Yep.

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Javier

Right? Yep. But the things that they got real specific on, why are we arguing about that?

[01:47:00:17 - 01:47:00:24]

Intro

Yep.

[01:47:03:03 - 01:47:03:04]

(Laughing)

[01:47:03:04 - 01:47:09:20]

Nelson

Why are we arguing about that? Because y'all wouldn't bitch about the fact that the right of the people is to bear arms.

[01:47:10:26 - 01:47:20:15]

Javier

Read that first line of the Second Amendment. Crazy word. A well established, with a well established militia or something like that.

[01:47:20:15 - 01:47:20:21]

Nelson

Yes.

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Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A well established militia. Yeah, yeah, in times of war. Yep. Yeah, okay. Okay. But it's been interpreted that we all have to write the bear arms.

[01:47:30:20 - 01:47:31:11]

Nelson

Yep, okay.

[01:47:32:18 - 01:47:48:22]

Nelson

Okay, and it's a protection, but it's also like, we get it, it's your First Amendment. I mean, your Second Amendment, to bear arms, but the reality of the situation is, that's in a moment where the people want to upstand the government. Yeah. You know, like, America was founded.

[01:47:48:22 - 01:47:49:02]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:47:49:02 - 01:48:05:04]

Nelson

Crazy. Yeah. So, that's why it specifically says to people, you don't have to be a citizen. It says to-- It's a right to the people within the country to be able to bear arms. Yeah. If a whole bunch of immigrants came in here and started fighting our wars, helping us fight our wars, you motherfuckers wouldn't bitch.

[01:48:05:04 - 01:48:06:22]

(Laughing)

[01:48:06:22 - 01:48:16:13]

Javier

I'm called Space V. This idea of picking and choosing how you want to interpret the Constitution, it's not new. No. It's been with us for a very long time. That's why we have a judicial branch.

[01:48:17:22 - 01:48:18:26]

(Laughing)

[01:48:18:26 - 01:48:20:18]

Nelson

To interpret it for us.

[01:48:21:20 - 01:48:21:27]

(Laughing)

[01:48:21:27 - 01:48:22:08]

Javier

And God,

[01:48:23:10 - 01:48:26:28]

Javier

y'all, do they need term limits? Yes. They need term limits.

[01:48:26:28 - 01:48:31:20]

Nelson

They need term limits. They don't need four-year term limits, but they need at least like 10-year term limits.

[01:48:31:20 - 01:48:33:13]

Javier

What in this world can you be for life?

[01:48:34:25 - 01:48:36:08]

Nelson

A police officer that kills black men.

[01:48:36:08 - 01:48:36:29]

(Laughing)

[01:48:36:29 - 01:48:40:00]

Javier

I guess so, that's not even funny. But yeah, I guess so.

[01:48:40:00 - 01:48:43:20]

Nelson

But it's hilarious. I guess so. Is that physicians law? The Pope.

[01:48:45:16 - 01:48:46:04]

Nelson

Bruh.

[01:48:47:26 - 01:48:49:20]

Nelson

Yeah. A pastor?

[01:48:50:20 - 01:48:56:28]

Javier

Or Kelly? I gotta read up a little bit more on what the founding fathers-- Kanye West? What they-- Bill Cosby. Bill, yeah.

[01:48:56:28 - 01:48:57:26]

(Laughing)

[01:48:57:26 - 01:49:04:18]

Javier

I need to know what their thinking was behind giving these justices a lifetime appointment.

[01:49:06:13 - 01:49:06:19]

(Laughing)

[01:49:06:19 - 01:49:12:24]

Nelson

And you know what would never revisit that conversation either, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By they threw that out there, it

[01:49:12:24 - 01:49:18:27]

Javier

will never revisit that conversation. It's done now. It's done. It's done. They got the majority that they needed.

[01:49:20:08 - 01:49:31:02]

Javier

I'm not even gonna sit here and rehash the whole Merrick Garland when Obama had the chance to replace Scalia. I'm not even gonna, that pisses me off the time I think about it. The devil.

[01:49:32:07 - 01:49:37:28]

Javier

Because my gosh, you sold your soul for some Supreme Court-- But it was a matter of like, again,

[01:49:39:06 - 01:49:57:21]

Nelson

my problem with the Democrats is they need to stop being so fucking soft. Because now you watch the Republicans say, "Yeah, we used that argument against you, "but we're gonna break that argument "to do what we wanna do." And then did what they wanted to do. When Trump was at the end of his election and they were like, "Yeah, we'll put a Supreme Court

[01:49:58:28 - 01:50:00:14]

Nelson

"member in there."

[01:50:00:14 - 01:50:05:01]

Javier

They wouldn't even give a meeting to Merrick Garland. A meeting.

[01:50:06:02 - 01:50:13:20]

Javier

And the man wasn't even, by people who know his career, he wasn't even a liberal. He was more so a moderate. You wouldn't even give that man a meeting.

[01:50:15:04 - 01:50:19:20]

Nelson

I'm going to make sure that this president is a one-time president.

[01:50:19:20 - 01:50:22:00]

Nelson

That's my Mitch McConnell impersonation.

[01:50:22:00 - 01:50:27:10]

Javier

He didn't even put his hand on the Bible yet. And they said that. Well, they failed.

[01:50:29:20 - 01:50:31:03]

Javier

I love saying that.

[01:50:33:02 - 01:50:36:14]

Javier

And the last 20 years, if there's anything I could be like, "Oh, that was a win."

[01:50:39:26 - 01:50:40:25]

Javier

That makes me feel good.

[01:50:42:05 - 01:50:50:04]

Javier

Anytime I think about what's going on right now, I could be like, "Yeah, but remember when Mitch McConnell "was trying to make Obama a one-time president? "Damn, that failed."

[01:50:53:11 - 01:50:53:16]

Javier

Damn.

[01:50:55:07 - 01:50:59:22]

Nelson

And he's still one of the biggest black inspirations ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:50:59:22 - 01:51:04:26]

Javier

Crazy. Yeah, he was everything they wanted in a candidate. But Michelle need to sit down. You didn't stop.

[01:51:04:26 - 01:51:15:13]

Nelson

What's your issue with Michelle? Michelle, you notice that rumor going around of whether her and Obama getting a divorce and she been going to podcasts. They ain't too much.

[01:51:16:19 - 01:51:18:22]

Javier

I think it's being taken out of context.

[01:51:20:13 - 01:51:20:19]

Javier

Listen,

[01:51:21:27 - 01:51:31:25]

Javier

I think she's trying to open up about them being just two human beings because we all put them on a pedestal, right? We did. We all sit there and be like, "God, man."

[01:51:31:25 - 01:51:33:13]

Nelson

We ask you for Michelle Obama to be

[01:51:33:13 - 01:51:47:01]

Javier

the next president. I hope nothing ever comes out about them, him cheating or anything like that because that would just destroy my world. But yeah, we- It wouldn't destroy mine because I'm a Kanye West fan, so. Well, yeah, no, you, nah. I'm pretty set in stone.

[01:51:47:01 - 01:51:49:10]

Nelson

If you were Kanye West fan, you ready for anything.

[01:51:49:10 - 01:51:50:19]

(Laughing)

[01:51:50:19 - 01:51:56:19]

Javier

You ready for anything. Cause you don't know what's gonna happen next with him. You don't know what's gonna happen.

[01:51:56:19 - 01:52:00:02]

Nelson

To that point, I can deal with some crazy shit coming up about Barack Obama.

[01:52:01:22 - 01:52:02:28]

(Laughing)

[01:52:04:14 - 01:52:05:02]

Javier

Please, no.

[01:52:05:02 - 01:52:07:04]

Nelson

But I would prefer it not.

[01:52:07:04 - 01:52:13:05]

Javier

Yeah, no, absolutely not. I would prefer it not. Absolutely not. Cause then I gotta go to work and, yeah, I don't work down there with y'all anymore.

[01:52:13:05 - 01:52:20:00]

Nelson

Explaining yourself and sitting there saying, as a black man, I have to defend Barack Obama because he's also a black man and nothing else past that.

[01:52:20:00 - 01:52:26:07]

Javier

I might be a conservative, but since I'm black- Blown out conversations defending that man. So yeah.

[01:52:27:10 - 01:52:27:26]

Javier

Yeah, it is.

[01:52:29:22 - 01:52:29:28]

(Laughing)

[01:52:29:28 - 01:52:31:23]

Nelson

I ain't got nothing for it.

[01:52:33:03 - 01:52:41:14]

Nelson

As far as the lego Garcia, I definitely write to it. I definitely want, I want him to come back, but I know they're not going to let him come back. But I write until he comes back.

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Javier

Yeah, it's almost the same situation as,

[01:52:48:10 - 01:52:49:24]

Javier

God, what's my guy?

[01:52:50:28 - 01:53:01:04]

Javier

He's a comedian. Talk, he actually, a black comedian, he would actually go and protest cause he was against the death penalty. You know who I'm talking about.

[01:53:02:16 - 01:53:22:21]

Javier

Not Chubby Doo. No, he had the gray, had the gray long beard. No. But anyway, I find his name, I keep, I should know his name, but yeah, he would even, he don't care if they were white or not, right? He would, cause he was against the death penalty. I liken that situation to where we are right now, right? We definitely have to start fighting

[01:53:24:00 - 01:53:29:06]

Javier

and making sure that everybody's right to due process is upheld.

[01:53:30:09 - 01:53:31:04]

Javier

Because if it's not,

[01:53:33:19 - 01:53:35:23]

Javier

if you think you're safe, you're next. Yep,

[01:53:36:26 - 01:53:42:13]

Javier

agree, I agree with that. You're next. If you think you're safe, you're next. Shout out to Latinos for Trump.

[01:53:42:13 - 01:53:43:17]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:53:45:19 - 01:53:51:26]

Javier

If you think you're safe, you're next. Yeah, the Venezuelans that he's deporting right now.

[01:53:51:26 - 01:53:55:04]

Nelson

If you think you're safe, you're next. I agree to that. Yeah.

[01:53:56:26 - 01:53:57:28]

Nelson

Shout out to the Latinos for Trump.

[01:53:59:15 - 01:54:01:18]

Nelson

Respect upon you. Diddy.

[01:54:02:22 - 01:54:03:01]

Nelson

God.

[01:54:08:00 - 01:54:08:07]

Javier

Sean.

[01:54:11:15 - 01:54:13:03]

Javier

Sean P. Diddy Combs.

[01:54:14:07 - 01:54:15:16]

Javier

You know. Come on, Sean.

[01:54:17:02 - 01:54:22:07]

Javier

Would you believe, like, I, for a very long time, I've disliked him heavily.

[01:54:22:07 - 01:54:26:16]

Nelson

I haven't had a type of way about him because it's not relevant to anything.

[01:54:26:16 - 01:54:45:27]

Javier

I didn't like the way he treated his artists. He pretty much treated his artists the way, you know, white executives were treating their artists, right? It's like he copied the playbook and got, Biggie's mom just got his likeness and his estate.

[01:54:45:27 - 01:54:46:10]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:54:47:13 - 01:54:48:07]

Javier

Not too long ago.

[01:54:49:08 - 01:54:49:26]

Javier

I mean, his family.

[01:54:49:26 - 01:54:57:06]

Nelson

I'm gonna be honest. Off break, it's a riot for Diddy. As a black man, I'm gonna hold my black men accountable. Yeah. Except Kanye.

[01:54:58:11 - 01:55:11:08]

Nelson

So with that being said, get Diddy the fuck out of here. This thing is been doing too much. After the elevator scene, I don't understand why this is still a conversation that we're having. Not you and me personally, but like, why people are still having this conversation. Didn't his main lawyer quit?

[01:55:13:02 - 01:55:14:04]

Javier

Yes, his original one did.

[01:55:15:07 - 01:55:18:03]

Javier

What does that tell you? This is the trial of a lifetime.

[01:55:18:03 - 01:55:23:27]

Nelson

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Donald Trump's first vice president quit.

[01:55:25:25 - 01:55:27:02]

Javier

That's not, that wasn't his lawyer though.

[01:55:28:20 - 01:55:33:19]

Javier

I thought we were just talking about how people have significance. You said his first vice president quit.

[01:55:33:19 - 01:55:37:18]

Nelson

Yeah, his first vice president quit. Not really. Well, I mean.

[01:55:37:18 - 01:55:38:08]

Javier

He got,

[01:55:39:09 - 01:55:42:23]

Javier

they was about to ride on him. They docked that motherfucker right into killing him.

[01:55:43:25 - 01:55:46:17]

Javier

Yeah, it was about to ride on him. And he's so polite about it now.

[01:55:48:01 - 01:55:53:01]

Nelson

Gotta stay in that coat. His wife ain't though. We don't wanna go back shop, we don't wanna go back shop.

[01:55:54:02 - 01:55:56:11]

Javier

It's so easy. Get Diddy the fuck out of here.

[01:55:57:18 - 01:56:02:14]

Javier

I'm gonna stand on that. Yeah, it's his time, man. They gonna take everything too.

[01:56:03:26 - 01:56:04:19]

Javier

Yeah, they gonna get him.

[01:56:04:19 - 01:56:11:00]

Nelson

My thing is, I'm questionable at who else is coming out. Cause Diddy's been a part of the industry

[01:56:11:00 - 01:56:13:15]

Javier

for too long. I don't think we realized how powerful he was.

[01:56:13:15 - 01:56:17:00]

Nelson

I think we do. I just don't think we ever like,

[01:56:19:01 - 01:56:27:21]

Javier

I don't think we ever gave credence to it. It's not other artists that I'm even like curious about. He had record execs up there, CEOs, politicians.

[01:56:27:21 - 01:56:33:06]

Nelson

I care about the artists. I'm wondering what's happening to Jay-Z. I don't know.

[01:56:34:06 - 01:56:38:01]

Nelson

That's what I'm worried about. I don't know. What's going on with Jay-Z? What's going on with Pharrell?

[01:56:38:01 - 01:56:48:07]

Javier

What's going on with Busta Rhymes? I hope they got, they lawyered up. I hope they lawyered up. Cause you know, back, it was, they were doing some wild stuff back then. Yep. And-

[01:56:48:07 - 01:56:53:09]

Nelson

Times were different. And certain things were quote unquote acceptable.

[01:56:53:09 - 01:56:58:19]

Javier

Yeah, guilty by association. You know, if you was in the room. You was a part of the act.

[01:57:00:20 - 01:57:03:02]

Javier

Listen, I'm not out here to defend anybody.

[01:57:03:02 - 01:57:14:01]

Nelson

It's a riot for me. And get Diddy the fuck out of here. This thing needs to, he doing too much. He's been doing too much. He's been a part of this for too long. And I still think he killed Tupac.

[01:57:14:01 - 01:57:16:10]

Javier

Killed Tupac. He lost John Kerry, the election.

[01:57:19:08 - 01:57:20:07]

(Laughing)

[01:57:22:28 - 01:57:24:10]

Nelson

And he's keeping Michael Jackson alive.

[01:57:26:19 - 01:57:26:20]

(Laughing)

[01:57:27:22 - 01:57:29:28]

Javier

That man got Bigfoot's foot in his closet.

[01:57:31:23 - 01:57:31:24]

(Laughing)

[01:57:31:24 - 01:57:36:06]

Javier

He's been the source of evil in the music industry for a long time.

[01:57:36:06 - 01:57:39:17]

Nelson

Man, he stole the flight from Malaysia.

[01:57:41:11 - 01:57:41:27]

Javier

What else he do?

[01:57:43:21 - 01:57:47:05]

Nelson

Outside of that, the Malaysia flight was a riot for me. And that's when I was like, "I don't fuck outta here."

[01:57:49:20 - 01:57:49:20]

(Laughing)

[01:57:49:20 - 01:57:53:26]

Nelson

I'm sorry if he sent a Malaysian victims, but like it's Diddy's fault.

[01:57:53:26 - 01:57:59:22]

Javier

They, you know what? They always, these type of people always keep evidence.

[01:58:01:10 - 01:58:03:06]

Javier

Like you gotta go back and watch your greatest hits.

[01:58:03:06 - 01:58:06:12]

Nelson

I'm niggas, I keep evidence on everything.

[01:58:06:12 - 01:58:17:23]

Javier

Well, you would think for somebody in his position that was doing something as illegal as it was, right? It would be no proof of it at all. But of course you wanna keep records of the things that you've done.

[01:58:17:23 - 01:58:18:00]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:58:18:00 - 01:58:18:16]

Nelson

Yeah.

[01:58:20:06 - 01:58:22:13]

Nelson

Yeah, because I wanna be able to bring everybody else down with me.

[01:58:23:17 - 01:58:29:11]

Javier

That was the thinking. Until the FBI just shows up, you don't have time to, you know, you don't get the warning.

[01:58:29:11 - 01:58:30:26]

Nelson

It's not a ticket order, baby, oh.

[01:58:30:26 - 01:58:32:07]

(Laughing)

[01:58:33:23 - 01:58:34:17]

Javier

I don't even buy paper.

[01:58:35:18 - 01:58:42:15]

Javier

I buy the NutriGina oil, right? I buy two at a time. I just use Balmer's Cocoa Butter Lotion. Yeah, that's crazy.

[01:58:43:20 - 01:58:50:14]

Javier

Listen, y'all, don't get caught buying too much, too many bottles of oil, all right? Just keep it simple. Unless you're doing an oil changer car.

[01:58:52:08 - 01:58:56:07]

Javier

I wouldn't even do that. Yeah, just buy one gallon. Yeah, buy what you need.

[01:58:58:09 - 01:58:58:11]

(Laughing)

[01:58:58:11 - 01:59:01:01]

Nelson

Unless you own-- Top that bitch off for another 500

[01:59:01:01 - 01:59:11:09]

Javier

miles, here we go. You own an auto mechanic shop? Why do you have, you don't, buy one. Buy one, buy what you need. Matter of fact, just go, like most everybody else, just go get your oil changers done.

[01:59:11:09 - 01:59:12:06]

(Laughing)

[01:59:12:06 - 01:59:16:12]

Javier

By add some shop. That way you don't even have to worry about it. They got everything you need.

[01:59:18:20 - 01:59:20:25]

Nelson

No more oil. Protest to riot, Diddy.

[01:59:26:13 - 01:59:26:19]

Javier

Protest.

[01:59:27:19 - 01:59:27:28]

Javier

What?

[01:59:29:11 - 01:59:29:26]

Javier

What'd you mean?

[01:59:29:26 - 01:59:32:18]

Nelson

Are you protesting or rioting against Diddy?

[01:59:34:08 - 01:59:46:17]

Javier

I'm a protestigator. What the fuck? I'm a protest against him. It's happening. I don't think he's gonna get off. So I think he's gonna get his-- I think he's gonna get off. That's why I'm rioting to this day. No, I think he's gonna get his due.

[01:59:46:17 - 01:59:50:04]

Nelson

Man, we gonna have fun trying to figure out if he's disagreeing with us so long, his podcast journey.

[01:59:51:04 - 01:59:51:10]

(Laughing)

[01:59:51:10 - 02:00:02:14]

Nelson

I ain't rioting to that nigga, Diddy. Get him the fuck out of here. Because that baby oil, you ever see that meme or the nigga that squirts him, that's a definitely slide of the suit cap. That's Diddy, nigga.

[02:00:02:14 - 02:00:05:08]

Javier

That's Diddy. Because those are federal charges, right?

[02:00:06:13 - 02:00:13:13]

Nelson

Yes, because yeah, too many states. Yeah, I mean his-- And it's trafficking from foreign location. So that's why it's federal.

[02:00:13:13 - 02:00:14:11]

Javier

Yeah, it's definitely federal.

[02:00:14:11 - 02:00:15:26]

Nelson

Hey, Don might get them all.

[02:00:15:26 - 02:00:17:01]

Javier

All right.

[02:00:18:04 - 02:00:18:05]

(Laughing)

[02:00:18:05 - 02:00:26:04]

Javier

And you say protest? Well, I don't have nothing to do with the Don side of the game. His nigga. The judicial side,

[02:00:27:15 - 02:00:29:04]

Javier

he's gonna get convicted.

[02:00:30:04 - 02:00:36:00]

Javier

Now if Don Dummy decides to give him a-- Don Dummy. To give him a pardon,

[02:00:37:00 - 02:00:39:11]

Javier

you know, then there'll be time to write.

[02:00:39:11 - 02:00:42:26]

Nelson

Don Dummy is hilarious. That might be the episode name for this one.

[02:00:42:26 - 02:00:43:24]

(Laughing)

[02:00:43:24 - 02:00:47:05]

Nelson

Don Dummy. Don Dummy might be her child.

[02:00:48:06 - 02:00:52:12]

Javier

Listen, man, I wish my grandma was alive. She would have had so many nicknames for this fellow.

[02:00:52:12 - 02:00:58:16]

Nelson

You say that, and I just talked to my grandmother like two weeks ago, no, it's probably a month and a half ago.

[02:00:59:16 - 02:01:12:26]

Nelson

And she said, "You're federal, right?" And I was like, "Yeah." She was like, "Are you fine?" I was like, "Oh, baby girl, I'm good." She was like, "Well, sex for the motherfuckers that I asked for." And I was like, "Grandma, get

[02:01:12:26 - 02:01:13:15]

Nelson

it!"

[02:01:13:15 - 02:01:14:16]

(Clapping)

[02:01:14:16 - 02:01:19:23]

Javier

She gets it. She did her job. She just wanted to make sure you were good. Yep. Yeah. News flash.

[02:01:19:23 - 02:01:20:21]

Nelson

That's--

[02:01:22:10 - 02:01:28:26]

Nelson

We're good. Katy Perry. We're gonna get into the laptop and then-- Oh, boy. Send you Episode Zero fans along the way.

[02:01:31:05 - 02:01:37:20]

Nelson

I think this is an elaborate secret message to show the elites that space is worth it.

[02:01:40:23 - 02:01:45:23]

Javier

They'd be the only ones to be able to afford it. Yep. That's for damn sure. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:01:45:23 - 02:01:47:00]

Nelson

Secret message.

[02:01:47:00 - 02:01:52:19]

Javier

Yeah. It's either that or she just decided one day she wanted to go to space. No, nobody give a fuck about Katy Perry that I didn't agree.

[02:01:52:19 - 02:02:04:17]

Nelson

Yeah, you know. I mean, we care about Katy Perry. She's a pop star. She's a very popular pop star. I had this argument with my best friend about this where it was like, but Gayle King already went to space. And I was like, who the fuck is Gayle King? And he was like-- You don't know Gayle King?

[02:02:05:19 - 02:02:10:25]

Nelson

And he goes, "Oprah's best friend." And I was like, you don't understand how ass backwards that was? Oh, man.

[02:02:10:25 - 02:02:14:16]

Javier

That you had to introduce her as Oprah's best friend? Yeah, I'm sure she doesn't like that.

[02:02:15:22 - 02:02:16:00]

Javier

Crazy.

[02:02:17:04 - 02:02:18:16]

Javier

Yeah, yeah. Gayle, I--

[02:02:19:19 - 02:02:22:25]

Javier

You gotta, you know what? You gotta find your own space. You gotta fuck a ditty.

[02:02:22:25 - 02:02:25:10]

(Laughing)

[02:02:27:20 - 02:02:29:00]

Nelson

You gotta fuck a ditty, Gayle King.

[02:02:30:04 - 02:02:32:00]

Nelson

Or interview two R. Kelly's.

[02:02:32:00 - 02:02:33:02]

Javier

Listen.

[02:02:34:24 - 02:02:37:15]

Javier

Because that's what we remember her for too. No, we don't.

[02:02:37:15 - 02:02:40:20]

Nelson

No? That's what she was a part of. That's not what we remember her for.

[02:02:42:03 - 02:02:44:23]

Javier

So you don't even remember her at all? Exactly.

[02:02:47:05 - 02:02:48:07]

Nelson

That's the point I'm making.

[02:02:48:07 - 02:02:52:11]

Nelson

When he said Gayle King and I googled her, I was like, "Oh, this is a mission interview."

[02:02:52:11 - 02:02:53:07]

Nelson

Oh my God.

[02:02:53:07 - 02:02:54:15]

(Laughing)

[02:02:54:15 - 02:02:55:19]

Nelson

Jesus Christ.

[02:02:57:10 - 02:03:00:13]

Nelson

Who the fuck is Gayle King? Who gets the fuck about her flying into space?

[02:03:00:13 - 02:03:03:04]

Javier

Well, that's kinda how I feel about Katy Perry.

[02:03:04:28 - 02:03:08:21]

Nelson

But you know who Katy Perry is. And you're probably not super associated with her music.

[02:03:09:26 - 02:03:10:05]

Javier

No.

[02:03:11:06 - 02:03:12:01]

Javier

No, that's okay.

[02:03:12:01 - 02:03:14:14]

Nelson

If you don't watch CBS, you don't know who the fuck Gayle King is.

[02:03:16:27 - 02:03:18:16]

Nelson

I'll wait. What'd you mean?

[02:03:20:04 - 02:03:22:26]

Nelson

Who would be associated with Gayle King? If not watching.

[02:03:26:00 - 02:03:29:02]

Javier

We all watched that kinda, right? We all watched that clip of R.

[02:03:29:02 - 02:03:31:05]

Nelson

Kelly screaming. We didn't know who was interviewing him.

[02:03:32:22 - 02:03:34:21]

Javier

See, that's the attention span. There's tensions.

[02:03:34:21 - 02:03:37:12]

Nelson

That's why they didn't have a five second Yeah, see, yeah.

[02:03:52:07 - 02:04:16:14]

Javier

Do you know anything about the concert she did where she was singing next to the toilet and all of that? No. Oh, and people were just like, I don't understand this. I don't know what's going on. And then in contrast to Katy, we got Lady Gaga, right? Who goes out to Spain and has the largest free concert. Just did a superhero movie. Huh? Just did a superhero movie. Yeah, and can actually sing. Sorry.

[02:04:17:27 - 02:04:28:12]

Javier

Or am I? No, get right. I got it. I got an ear and some of y'all are just out here cause you can do what you told or you can sing a little bit.

[02:04:28:12 - 02:04:30:26]

Nelson

Lady Gaga can sing and Lady Gaga has a good catalog.

[02:04:30:26 - 02:04:35:15]

Javier

No, no, I'm saying Lady Gaga can sing versus who we're talking about.

[02:04:35:15 - 02:04:38:09]

Nelson

Katy Perry, you don't think Katy Perry can sing?

[02:04:40:04 - 02:04:40:20]

Nelson

Do you?

[02:04:43:26 - 02:04:44:27]

Nelson

Yeesh, this is awkward.

[02:04:47:19 - 02:05:06:11]

Javier

And if you do, please, by all means, keep believing that. Name a song where she sings good. I got artists that I like that most of y'all wouldn't like. So, hey. But anyways, yeah, you know, I just found out that she's, you know, she on the conservative side of the game, her and her husband. Katy Perry? Yeah, didn't know that. I did.

[02:05:07:23 - 02:05:09:25]

Javier

See that, I don't know. She flew in space.

[02:05:09:25 - 02:05:10:03]

Nelson

Same thing.

[02:05:10:03 - 02:05:15:08]

Javier

I don't know this person like that. I know she got fireworks and that's it.

[02:05:15:08 - 02:05:19:28]

Nelson

That's all you know by Katy Perry? A kiss she kissed. Bullshit nigga.

[02:05:19:28 - 02:05:21:18]

Javier

She kissed the girl.

[02:05:22:22 - 02:05:23:20]

Javier

And she liked it.

[02:05:26:05 - 02:05:28:00]

Javier

All right, next.

[02:05:28:00 - 02:05:36:14]

Nelson

I give this Katy Perry moon trip to a minor protest until it becomes a riot, which is when the rich people start going into space.

[02:05:37:16 - 02:05:38:12]

Nelson

Yeah, see that's the thing.

[02:05:38:12 - 02:05:41:26]

Nelson

Once they start going into space, it's a riot. But right now, this approach is together.

[02:05:41:26 - 02:05:44:19]

Javier

I'm gonna tell y'all right now, you think you're gonna leave us down here.

[02:05:46:07 - 02:05:47:02]

Javier

We're gonna find our way.

[02:05:47:02 - 02:05:50:16]

Nelson

We're gonna be illegal immigrants in the space shuttle.

[02:05:50:16 - 02:06:02:10]

Javier

What's said to the entertainer say? It's gonna be a brother in a spaceship with some rims on it in space. You think you're gonna leave us down here. Soo. Yeah, yeah.

[02:06:03:10 - 02:06:03:13]

(Laughing)

[02:06:03:13 - 02:06:07:27]

Javier

We right there next to you. We should've gone following our sleep at the fucking top.

[02:06:07:27 - 02:06:09:05]

(Laughing)

[02:06:09:05 - 02:06:13:01]

Javier

I'm gonna have a rocket ship that's wrapped in matte black.

[02:06:13:01 - 02:06:14:16]

(Laughing)

[02:06:17:27 - 02:06:19:02]

Nelson

Yo, spinners in a

[02:06:19:02 - 02:06:35:19]

Javier

space shuttle is wild work. Yeah, you gonna be in your ship, is that music out here? Yeah, that's me. I'm bumping in a third row. Yeah, because-- Of the fourth floor of your space shuttle. Because why did I need to add a subwoofer in there? For what? For what?

[02:06:35:19 - 02:06:40:09]

Nelson

We're gonna be up there for a year. Yeah. Because getting back to Earth seems to be a problem these days.

[02:06:40:09 - 02:06:45:19]

Javier

Yeah, it does. I guess when we go up there, we staying up there. Yup. Yeah.

[02:06:46:20 - 02:06:47:03]

Nelson

I wish you would've,

[02:06:48:12 - 02:06:55:15]

Nelson

but it's still gonna protest for me. It is serious, but I see what it leads to. It's like, all right, you higher up, or echelon, white people.

[02:06:55:15 - 02:06:57:05]

Javier

I'm glad she got back down safely.

[02:06:59:02 - 02:07:04:05]

Javier

You don't even like the bitch. I ain't saying it like I just don't. I can do without her.

[02:07:06:02 - 02:07:08:16]

Nelson

I can do without her, and I don't like her the same thing to me.

[02:07:08:16 - 02:07:12:03]

Javier

No, not really. Not really, I'm neutral.

[02:07:12:03 - 02:07:14:19]

(Laughing)

[02:07:14:19 - 02:07:22:14]

Javier

You said Katy Perry, and I had to really go back into my-- Mental illness. Yeah, I had to dig deep. Katy Perry.

[02:07:22:14 - 02:07:24:13]

Nelson

She gets a girl and she like that.

[02:07:24:13 - 02:07:24:13]

(Laughing)

[02:07:24:13 - 02:07:28:21]

Javier

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what came to my head. Ah, Don Dummy.

[02:07:28:21 - 02:07:33:13]

(Laughing)

[02:07:36:02 - 02:07:37:17]

Nelson

Listen. Protests are right.

[02:07:38:26 - 02:07:39:16]

Nelson

To Katy Perry.

[02:07:39:16 - 02:07:40:17]

Nelson

What do you say?

[02:07:40:17 - 02:07:41:26]

Javier

Protests.

[02:07:41:26 - 02:07:46:10]

Nelson

This is fair. We're gonna protest, but when you white people start doing it collectively,

[02:07:47:17 - 02:07:51:15]

Nelson

actually, I hope more of y'all do, because maybe it'll turn out like the submarine.

[02:07:51:15 - 02:07:52:22]

(Laughing)

[02:07:52:22 - 02:07:56:08]

Javier

You said it made her do what? Turn out like the submarine.

[02:07:56:08 - 02:08:00:28]

Nelson

The submarine? The one that went in the space and all them rich white people died. Oh God.

[02:08:02:09 - 02:08:02:10]

(Laughing)

[02:08:02:10 - 02:08:03:00]

Javier

Oh God.

[02:08:03:00 - 02:08:04:26]

Nelson

I'm kidding, by the way.

[02:08:04:26 - 02:08:07:13]

Javier

Listen, first off, they still alive.

[02:08:11:06 - 02:08:11:25]

Javier

Sike, nah, they gone.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

They gone.

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Javier

God, they gone. God rest their soul.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

They are gone. They are gone. And you know what? He was just talking about common sense earlier. My God. They got in there. Do you remember it was like-- The conversation they got in there. The controllers, they had like old-- Yeah, the PlayStation controller. Old Xbox controller. Not even the new one. Old Xbox controller, something like that. I'm like, man, you had a Nintendo 64 controller and it's-- What

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Nelson

movie am I thinking about when the-- Oh, have you ever seen The Core? I think-- And it's that movie where the Russian guy is sitting there in that seat and the whole thing is crushing up against him because of the pressure that's in the outer core, the outer mantle. Yeah, yeah. The pressure that's going in the outer-- Yeah. And he just sitting like, ah, ah, ah, ah. Yeah. Tell my wife I love her.

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Javier

That's what I pictured for the submarine.

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Javier

Well, apparently it was quick. Like that. That was quick and he just sold it out for the sake of the movie. Well, he had time to say a whole line. Like, I'm thinking like, hopefully it was just, you know, they didn't even have time to think.

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Nelson

The world will never know. That's true.

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Javier

That's true. My God. The ocean scares me, man. And the ocean will kill you. It will. And that's why I don't care to learn how to swim. I know how to swim, but it ain't for the ocean. It ain't for you.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

I hate for the ocean. The ocean is crazy.

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Javier

It ain't for the ocean.

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Javier

It took a minute for that to click. That's crazy. It ain't for the ocean.

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Javier

Nah, I'm good on that. Excuse me while I put my tap dance shoes on.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Shocking job on you, you whited me whites real quick.

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Javier

I can swim.

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Javier

It ain't for the ocean though.

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Nelson

For the record, I do want to point out that we're not just like white people. We do not hate white people. I have a lot of white friends. A lot is in stretch. I have a decent amount of white friends. By decent, I mean, you have three white friends.

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Nelson

So we don't hate white people. I'm for equality. They're just a problem of our community these days.

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Nelson

And Congress.

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Nelson

They're a problem for our community and our Congress.

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Javier

I think I'm right in the privilege and not acknowledging it.

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Javier

Trying to gaslight us into thinking that there's debt exists.

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Nelson

What are you talking about? White people suffer more than we do because DEI programs exist and that's why they can't get jobs.

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Javier

The Jedi mind trick, it's not on me anymore. It doesn't work on me.

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Nelson

What are you talking about? White people suffer more than anybody else in America because they can't get jobs because all the unqualified black people and the illegal immigrants are still in their jobs. Yeah, so unqualified. And white fallen victims of the Jedi mind trick? Yeah. Crazy.

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Javier

Got a little Obi-Wan going on right now.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

A whole lot of facetiousness.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

I ain't that stupid. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. But yeah, no, listen.

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Javier

Katie, if you're listening.

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Nelson

Yo, Katie, listening to episode zero of the Two Protests and Terrific podcast is crazy. You never know. But shout out to Katy Perry. If you're listening to Katy Perry,

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Nelson

sit your ass down somewhere.

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Nelson

What did you have to say to Katy Perry?

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Javier

I'm just, hey, I'm glad you made it back safe.

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Javier

And should you decide to go again, right? I want you to spend as much time as you spent on preparing for that flight and maybe do that with your concerts.

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Intro

Performances.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Because we're lost, we're lost.

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Nelson

During your performance. We don't know what you're trying to copy.

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Javier

I don't know, I don't know. She didn't even know. Oh, God. She's probably getting it right now and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to power on. I'm just saying, like, you know. People think you can perform.

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Javier

So you should perform.

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Nelson

I think your mayonnaise in a culture of seasoning, get out of here, Katy Perry. And also sit the fuck down. Talking about you. We don't care that you went to the moon. Talking about D, yeah.

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Nelson

Ain't no net, no, we're gonna go ahead and cool

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Nelson

about this episode of "To Protest or To Ride" podcast. Jesus Christ.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Katy Perry being a DEI hiring pop culture.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

Kinda speaks vibing to what Drake is.

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Nelson

You're just gonna say that.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

You say what? He kinda speaks vibing to what Drake is. What Drake is? Yeah, what Drake is in pop culture. If Katy Perry in pop culture is a DEI,

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Javier

No, Drake is actually talented. I know.

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Nelson

Yeah. But Katy Perry is popular and relevant.

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Nelson

Popular and relevant.

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Javier

That's a shot, you know who you are. I think that flight she just took made irrelevant. Cause I ain't really heard anything about her. Katy Perry dropped a song last year, shut the fuck up talking to me.

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Nelson

She did? Yes. She dropped a song with Dochie last year. Did she? Yes, she did.

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Javier

With Dochie? With Dochie. I'm gonna have to check that out. I'm gonna have to check that out. Or not.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Or not.

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Javier

He thought he was gonna get me with the Dochie, but I--

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(Laughing)

[02:13:32:12 - 02:13:34:07]

Nelson

Apparently I got everybody with the Dochie this year.

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(Laughing)

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Javier

Apparently I got Lil Hill with the Dochie. Yeah, I like Dochie, but just cause Katy Perry's on it, you know what I mean? Or just cause Dochie's on it doesn't mean I'ma check it out.

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Javier

I got other things to check out.

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Nelson

Ain't no shot Dochie won fucking Artist of the Year or Album of the Year, and niggas is brand new to her.

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Javier

Yeah, I've been listening to her. So-- Except for the Katy Perry song. There we go, there we go, there we go. I've never heard that in my life.

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Nelson

Yeah, she just dropped a song like seven months ago with Dochie.

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Javier

One day I'll give it a listen.

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Nelson

That's crazy, no he not.

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(Laughing)

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Nelson

I still been trying to get this nigga to listen to Nanda all the way through.

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Javier

That ain't happening. See what I'm saying? That is not happening. You think he

[02:14:18:04 - 02:14:20:20]

Nelson

gonna listen to Katy Perry over Dochie?

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Javier

Don, listen. Hey, here we go. Cause listen, I don't need that kind of negative energy.

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Nelson

Thank you for joining us for episode zero for the Apple He was

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Javier

trying to conjure Casper and I don't--

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Javier

Casper was a fucking ghost.

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Javier

I don't know what he was trying to do, man.

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Javier

I'm not for it. I'm just here for the content. Yeah, I'm here for good music and I'm waiting. All right, and on that note,

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Nelson

to processor Tariah,

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Nelson

hoping to bring it back once a month. Look forward to it, we'll be bringing back the news updates and everything, getting our bitches, gripes and complaints off about, bitches gripes and complaints about Donald Trump. Throughout the process of this entire administration, we'll be touching on a lot of projects, 2025.

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Nelson

Continuity and how Donald Trump doesn't know anything about it and he's never read it, but he heard it was some great ideas in it. Even though he sat down with half of the Heritage Foundation and half of the Heritage Foundation as a part of his administration, it's not the end of the air, it comes to you for another time in the future.

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Javier

Final notes.

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Javier

In the words of Trump, Stop.

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(Laughing)

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Speaker 8

Somewhere I read of the freedom of press.

[02:15:37:27 - 02:15:45:08]

Intro

Somewhere I read that the greatness of America is the right to protest for right.

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(Upbeat Music)

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intro

If he's not ready to clean his house up, he shouldn't have a house.

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intro

He should catch on fire and burn down.

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